--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 154 SCANNERS Ref: E5^00017 Date: 05/30/97 From: TROY H. CHEEK Time: 03:01pm \/To: MARC CHABOT (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: Vote stuff Concerning _Vote stuff_, Marc Chabot said to Troy H. Cheek in SCANRADIO: MC> The worst question a journalist can ask to a politician is why he MC> wants to be elected, then the politician starts b*llsh*tt*ng he MC> wants to help the poors, he promises no new taxes (read my lips), MC> and so on... MC> MC> So... Why do you want the moderator job? MC> >> I think I'm qualified to the do the job and, >> if elected, I'll be happy to do so. >> ^^^^ ^^ ^^^^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ MC> MC> Why? This is an article I'm composing for FIDONEWS. I think it will answer your questions as well. Just skip past the soapbox stuff. Some say Fidonet is dead. Obviously, since I'm writing this, and you're reading it, and it went through Fidonet, then Fidonet isn't dead. As long as Fidonet isn't dead, it will require people to run BBS's, maintain nodelists, move messages, and moderate echoes. People who catch a lot of flak and get very little praise, but people who are required nonetheless. I've moderated a few Fidonet echomail conferences over the years for various reasons. The ones I moderate right now, however, have exactly one thing in common: They were abandoned without notice by their previous moderators. I took over echoes which were "dead" or "dying". You want to hear something funny? All of them are still active and still on the backbone. Had I not taken over, it's possible some of these echoes would no longer exist. But they would not have died because of lack of interest of the end users; they would have died because nobody with the proper knowledge bothered to update an echolist entry. In my mind, there's no doubt that the eventual demise of Fidonet will _not_ be because there are no longer any end users (lured away by the promise of the Internet and other factors), but because the people who do the vital jobs of Fidonet will give them up under the mistaken impression that they are no longer needed. Back in the early Fidonet days, the stand-alone BBS was declared dead. After all, what single BBS could possibly compete with a nation-wide network? And, hearing this solemn announcement that they were dead, BBS's closed shop or joined Fidonet. A funny thing happened on the way to the funeral, though. Some of the BBS's didn't listen and continued to operate for as long as they still had callers. Some operated for years. A few are _still_ operating to this day. And I've been known to call a few every now and then. Fidonet has been declared dead, killed by the Internet. In spite of being dead, there are still a lot of people using it daily. So, should we close up shop, forcing all these users to find other means of communication? Or maybe, just maybe, should we keep the doors open until the message packets actually stop coming in? By all means hook into the Internet! Learn about the World Wide Web and news services and electronic mail! Make new friends! Discover new sources of knowledge! But since you can do all these things without giving up Fidonet, why do so many people demand we do exactly that? Are they afraid that if we don't take their word that Fidonet is dead, instead of waiting for the mail packets to actually quit coming in, that it just might take years or even decades before Fidonet really ceases to exist? As long as I still have access to Fidonet, and as long as there are still echoes that interest me, I'll keep posting messages. And as long some of these echoes need somebody to send in echolist entry updates and perform the various administrivia functions, I'll still be a moderator. Troy H. Cheek, VID_GAME Echo Moderator (among others) ... Taglines are the Rest Room walls of Fidonet! --- JetMail 0.99beta22 * Origin: When Starlings Mate - Benton, TN (1:362/708.4) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 154 SCANNERS Ref: EA100000 Date: 05/30/97 From: EVAN MILLER Time: 10:01pm \/To: BLAKE BOWERS (Read 3 times) Subj: MODERATOR VOTE How many ECHOS do you moderate now? --- FLAME v1.1 * Origin: CanCom TBBS - Canton, OH (1:157/629) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 154 SCANNERS Ref: EA100001 Date: 05/28/97 From: BILL CLARK Time: 12:44pm \/To: ALL (Read 3 times) Subj: Mobile Phone frequencies Can anyone tell me what the frequencies are for mobile phones in various countrys particulary america and canada Bill Clark. --- Spot 1.3a Unregistered * Origin: -+- Spot -+- Xpansions BBS! (2:255/122.20) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 154 SCANNERS Ref: EA100002 Date: 05/31/97 From: LEROY DONNELLY Time: 12:00am \/To: ALL (Read 3 times) Subj: repair Looking for a service company (other than ICOM) that will repair my ICOM R-7000. Grove worked on it over 3 years ago when they were in the repair business, but alas, it's no more. I do have the service manual. Reply to this news group or ldonnelly@juno.com P.S. I am also looking for a programming plug for a RITRON Patriot RPM-450. * JABBER v1.1 * Progress is determined by the changes in the error messages. --- Maximus 2.02 * Origin: Larry's (Amiga) Hot Tub (1:285/15) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 154 SCANNERS Ref: EA100003 Date: 05/31/97 From: MODERATOR Time: 07:55am \/To: GLENN FETTY (Read 3 times) Subj: Vote Acknowledgement Yo! Glenn: Friday May 30 1997 21:03, Glenn Fetty wrote to Bill Cheek: GF> I vote for Troy Cheek. Acknowledged. Thanks for voting! Bill Cheek ~ bcheek@san.rr.com Moderator - SCANRADIO --- Hertzian Mail+ * Origin: Hertzian Intercept-San Diego 619-578-9247 (6pm-1pm) (1:202/731) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 154 SCANNERS Ref: EA100004 Date: 05/31/97 From: MODERATOR Time: 08:02am \/To: BOBBIE BEERS (Read 3 times) Subj: Vote Acknowledgement Yo! Bobbie: Friday May 30 1997 12:31, Bobbie Beers wrote to Bill Cheek: BB> Here's my vote. I vote for Troy Cheek. BB> Didn't receive acknowledgement of it. Acknowledged. Thanks for voting! Bill Cheek ~ bcheek@san.rr.com Moderator - SCANRADIO --- Hertzian Mail+ * Origin: Hertzian Intercept-San Diego 619-578-9247 (6pm-1pm) (1:202/731) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 154 SCANNERS Ref: EA100005 Date: 05/31/97 From: BILL CHEEK Time: 08:33am \/To: WES GREGG (Read 3 times) Subj: Pro-2042 Mods or "Keyboard Tricks" Yo! Wes: Saturday May 31 1997 01:10, Wes Gregg wrote to All: WG> Hi, I am now the proud owner of a Radio Shack Pro-2042 scanner. I WG> was wondering if there are any modifications or "keyboard tricks" WG> (ie, turning it on while holding down certain keys, etc. - anything WG> interesting not covered in the manual) available for it? Bill? No keyboard tricks. Dozens of hardware mods can be done. Most of the mods already in print for the PRO-2004/5/6 and 2035 will also apply to the 2042. Nothing that can be said in a few ASCII text lines, but definitely lots of things are possible. WG> Also, any recomendations for popular scanner databases (for the WG> frequencies my scanner "finds" me while I'm at work!) would be great. The PerCON CD-ROMs of FCC Databases are about as good as it gets....... WG> One more thing: This BBS is shutting down soon. Anywhere local to WG> Parkersburg/Vienna, WV I can receive this message group? Internet? Ask your SysOp to cull the Fido Nodelist for BBS's that are in that Area de. Bill Cheek ~ bcheek@san.rr.com Windows 95 Juggernaut Team ~ Microsoft MVP --- Hertzian Mail+ * Origin: Hertzian Intercept-San Diego 619-578-9247 (6pm-1pm) (1:202/731) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 154 SCANNERS Ref: EA100006 Date: 05/31/97 From: SCOTT CHRISTENSEN Time: 06:01am \/To: BILL CHEEK (Read 3 times) Subj: RE: BBS shutting down Bill Cheek writes in a message to Scott Christensen BC> The government BUILT, developed, and then gave away the Internet. Actual control is not required in order to snoop... SC> So I think that there is a definite "snoop factor" involved. BC> Easily countered, though. So counter it! SC> Remember the "clipper chip?" This was their way of giving us a false SC> sense of security - *they* could break that encryption any time they SC> wanted. BC> Security? Hah! The Clipper Chip had everyone's rectums pinching BC> down on their seats. No love for that puppy.......... Exactly my point. It isn't security at all. BC> There are growing pains associated with anything new. We have BC> to evolve our own standards and secure methodologies and keep BC> the government out of it. But can you say they aren't monitoring? Now? Why would Al Gore push it so hard if the government wasn't real interested in it - for their own personal uses. BC> It is against Fido Policy4 to do that. But then maybe the government BC> has been running Fido all these years......... So change "Policy." As for anyone running Fidonet, I doubt that *anyone* actually does! --- COUNTERPoint 2.3 * Origin: MacRefuge * 612-426-6687 * (1:282/24) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 154 SCANNERS Ref: EA100007 Date: 05/31/97 From: SCOTT CHRISTENSEN Time: 06:02am \/To: BILL CHEEK (Read 3 times) Subj: RE: BBS shutting down Bill Cheek writes in a message to Frank Glover BC> A Web and FTP site does ANYTHING a BBS could ever do.......except BC> better....much better.... and cheaper! Bullfeathers. Prove it. --- COUNTERPoint 2.3 * Origin: MacRefuge * 612-426-6687 * (1:282/24) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 154 SCANNERS Ref: EA100008 Date: 05/31/97 From: BUD JAMISON Time: 08:17pm \/To: SCOTT CHRISTENSEN (Read 3 times) Subj: RE: BBS shutting down -> BC> A Web and FTP site does ANYTHING a BBS could ever do.......except -> BC> better....much better.... and cheaper! -> -> Bullfeathers. Prove it. Bill's talking thru his hat again. I have yet to see a website that provides the kind of communications echos do, that is accessible for free like Fido BBSs are (unless you happen to have work access, few students REALLY have 'free' acress), OR that are as cheap to operate as a standard BBS. But Bill MIGHT know more than he's let on. Just don't hold your breath. --- Platinum Xpress/386/Wildcat! v1.3 * Origin: The Kat!, Wildcat!, and PX in San Diego Ca. (1:202/746)