--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 154 SCANNERS Ref: DCV00003 Date: 08/25/96 From: MARC MOSHER Time: 10:40am \/To: KURT KRUEGER (Read 13 times) Subj: BC-200 XLT "AUDIO MODS" >Uniden decided was necessary to attenuate the audio so the >General Public won't damage their hearing. I used the mod on my >'200 for 3 years with no ill effects (to the scanner...). Thanks for the info, Kurt. It's sure a much-needed enhancement for use with an external speaker! --- * OLXWin 1.00 * We all live in the Yellow Runabout...--the Beajorans * Origin: AutoMania! Williamson NY 315-483-9455 V34/VFC/HST (1:2613/601) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 154 SCANNERS Ref: DCV00004 Date: 08/24/96 From: MILTON GRISSOM Time: 08:14pm \/To: TOM LAMB (Read 14 times) Subj: FREQ TL> Milton: No expert on this, but I have read that they can be TL> anywhere TL> in the band, and that some use spread-spectrum, which would be TL> unreadable with regular receivers. Tom, in SW Colorado Thanks for the info. Was not sure how they worked. --- QuickBBS 2.81 Ovr (Zeta-2.0) * Origin: The Second City...Joplin Missouri (1:286/711) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 154 SCANNERS Ref: DCV00005 Date: 08/24/96 From: SCOTT HOFFMAN Time: 09:40am \/To: ALL (Read 14 times) Subj: Crypto I've been reading this discussion on PGP pub keys in this echo regarding whether they should be allowed as 'taglines', and I think people have the right to discuss the issue obviously however, as always I feel that people have no business feeding their input when they have no clue about cryptography, and that is most definately the case here.. Almost every single message I have ever read in this entire echo about PGP and cryptography was 100 pecent totally innacurate, just totally innacurate. People simply cannot distinguish between public keys, private keys, digital signatures, hashes, checksums, etc.. --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Brian's World (516)-331-5540 Long Island, NY (1:2619/232) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 154 SCANNERS Ref: DCV00006 Date: 08/24/96 From: SCOTT HOFFMAN Time: 09:44am \/To: ALL (Read 13 times) Subj: Rat Shack (Pro) scanner I just picked up a RAT SHACK "Pro-50" Scanner for use as a cheap disposable scanner for whene I dont feel like hauling out any of my real scanners (like to the beach where it could get ;lifted'.. Anyway, my problem is that the scanner always seems to "beep" and give me an error when I manually enter ceartain frequencies (which I know are most definately valid frequencies because I get them on my other scanners..) So far it has done this for about 900 frequencies I've trie to enter manually, (oh, and the LCD give me an "ERROR" message).. Whats up? --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Brian's World (516)-331-5540 Long Island, NY (1:2619/232) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 154 SCANNERS Ref: DCV00007 Date: 08/25/96 From: RICHARD DALE Time: 10:35am \/To: TROY H. CHEEK (Read 13 times) Subj: Re: RULEMAKING: PGP SIGS TH>Of course, none of this is readily apparent to any of us who aren't TH>using PGP and/or haven't obtained a public key for that individual. PGP is like car insurance -- when you need it, you'll really need it. I used to sign my messages, but I realized it was taking an extra 15 seconds per message. The size of the resulting packet was unnoticeable. * 1st 2.00 #567 * Thesaurus: an ancient reptile with an excellent cabulary. --- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff013/c] * Origin: Sound Advice - 24 Nodes (816)436-4516 (1:280/333) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 154 SCANNERS Ref: DCX00000 Date: 08/25/96 From: SCOTT HOFFMAN Time: 12:05pm \/To: DREW FECCO (Read 12 times) Subj: Re: New guy in the field DF> Hi, I am 16 and really want to get into scanning. i want a base unit that c DF> recive cellular and all that stuff and have a lot of channels(or be modifie DF> to have a lot) and I was wondering if any of you long time scanners could DF> help me out(Bill Cheek?) or ANYBODY that could help me. I have downloaded DF> tons of freqs in anticipation for my first scanner and will trade the with DF> anyone that wants them. Well Thanks in advance. It depends on how much money you want to spend. Everyone should realize that whever your talking about buying something (whether it be a computer or a scanner), if your asking for advice, then you need to give a price range that you can afford, thats even more important than the features and frequencies you want because those would have to be worked around your budget.... Anyway.. My adice is it seems what your interested in, is the """best""" scanner with good features and the widest coverage band possible (gets the most frequencies) at a reasonable price.. Well, theirs lots of good scanners out their, but I personally feel only 1 fits the bill, and that is the AOR-8000 which sells for between $475 (absolute minimum retail price) upwards towards $590 depending on where you get it from and if its on sale.. This scanner is great because: (1) It probably has the widest coverage band of any scanner EVER in its price range, plus it covers more frequencies that any scanner in its "size" range.. (2) The AOR-8000 can be programmed through cheap software such as SCAN-CAT GOLD, etc.. and you can easily reprogram in any missing bands (such as... hmm... cellular....) (3) the AOR can also be "reaction tuned" with another device called the "OptoElectronics SCOUT" which is a type of frequency counter that will automatically tune your scanner when the SCOUT receives a frequency that is close by.. (ie: somebody turns on a CB Radio, walkie talkie, or cell radio, if your close enough, the SCOUT will "command" your AOR scanner to automatically tune to that frequency.. HERES THE BAD NEWS THOUGH.. :-( I kinda messed up with my advice, the AOR 800 is great, but its not a "base model" scanner which is what you asked for... but in my opinion its every bit as good as any base model out their (in that price range).. Anyway, if you tell us your price range, I can then recommend a good base model for you. --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Brian's World (516)-331-5540 Long Island, NY (1:2619/232) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 154 SCANNERS Ref: DCY00000 Date: 08/25/96 From: BILL CHEEK Time: 09:12am \/To: BILL FUNK (Read 12 times) Subj: CELLULAR MODS FOR ICOM RA Yo! Bill: Monday August 19 1996 15:50, Bill Funk wrote to Bill Cheek: BF>>> The R-7100 will do things the '2006 can't even think of doing, even BF>>> if Bill Cheek were to put all his mods in it. BC>> Is that 'wishful thinking', a hope and a prayer, or....for real? BF> Ah! Never actually laid hands on one, huh? Yeah, I've messed with 'em. The R-7000 is........ ummmm..... nice. Very nice. BF> Just one example: I can do two different types of scan/search at once BF> (well, sequentially, actually). Yes? So can it on my Turbowhopper PRO-2004's and PRO-2006's. Piece of cake, actually............ BF> I can scan any list of frequencies (and log hits, if I want to), Ditto. Me, too. The logging consists of: channel, frequency, mode, delay status, lockout status, date, duration of hit, and then a number of optional data, including signal strength. :-) BF> and also, in rotation, search a band, also logging hits if I want to. Ditto. BF> IOW, the radio will do the scan, do the search, do the scan, do the BF> search, etc. Ditto. BF> I've not seen the capability with a '2006. Ahhhhhhhhhhhh, that's what makes Life so cool. There are always such sweet and wonderful surprises. BF> I have *2* of them. I'm not in any way putting down the 2006. I know that. :-) BF> Nor am I trying to diminish what you can do with them. I know that, too. You need never mention it again. Like I would not put you or your R-7000 down. You and it are too high quality for that. :-) But my TurboWhoppers will still kick a R-7000's patooty in many, many ways. Not all. But a lot. :-) BF> I bought to fill my needs/wants. The Icom will do things I couldn't BF> do another way. It's overkill for the vast majority of scanning, BF> especially when it comes to cost. THAT is the killer. I'd like to have one. But some dude on the Internet is selling three of 'em, new in the box, pre-April 1984, for $1000 a pop. Geez, for a kilobuck, I can MAKE a radio machine about as good in many ways, and better in most. BF> But sometimes there's just no other way to do what I want to do. I know....... it's the only "game in town", sometimes. BF> Besides, I have too much money, and needed to spend some of it! ;-) I understand. I hear of people like that once in a while. It kind of keeps me trucking on the narrow and righteous path. :-) Bill Cheek | Internet: bcheek@cts.com | Compu$erve: 74107,1176 Windows 95 Juggernaut Team | Microsoft MVP --- Hertzian Mail+ * Origin: Hertzian Intercept-San Diego 619-578-9247 (6pm-1pm) (1:202/731) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 154 SCANNERS Ref: DCY00001 Date: 08/25/96 From: BILL CHEEK Time: 09:27am \/To: BILL FUNK (Read 12 times) Subj: RULEMAKING: PGP SIGS Yo! Bill: Monday August 19 1996 15:50, Bill Funk wrote to Bill Cheek: BC>>>> Except that digital sigs are coming into vogue everywhere else. BF>>> They may be in vogue, but do they have anything to do with scanning? BF>>> It seems to me that if the post isn't coded, a decoding key is simply BF>>> not needed. As such, it becomes part of a signature line, and should BF>>> be limited as any other sig line. As I see it. BC>> Let me play the devil's advocate for a moment.....which is what I have BC>> been doing anyway.......... BF> OK, I see what you are saying. BF> I was under the impression that the actual question was whether to llow BF> PGP sigs to exceed the 4-line limit on SIG's, and that's what I've been BF> trying to keep this to. Well, I'm not sure that can be done. Maybe it can. But I doubt it. I don't mind increased overhead in messaging nowdays given the extremely low cost of it. I am interested in any sort of tool that will serve to prove up who people are and to negate or render impotent any attempts at anonymity. BF> What I'm saying is this: If PGP sigs are coded messages, they would BF> seem to be illegal under FIDO rules. If not, then they seem to be BF> part of SIGs, and as such, should be subject to the rules for them. BF> Did I miss something? If so, I'll re-think. I can't buck the Fido Policy on that score, and so it is not at issue. If the Headshed eventually rules that a PGP sig is a message, then that's that. If a sig only, then I am open to amending the rules to accommodate it. The objective is to maintain a sense of openness here and to guard against the sort of anonymity and treachery that is creeping into the Internet. That's why I've declared this topic open until further notice. My mind is not made up, and I am in no hurry to make it up. I am open to all input that's above the personal emotion level. I really don't want to weigh and deliberate what people "want and feel". I want to weigh and deliberate the facts and the substance, if you catch my drift. Could be that someday, our echo software will allow us to turn off the display of PGP signatures just like we can no do with the message headers and footers. Take a look at your own stuff there.........there is a boatload of "garbage" in a message header and footer. Chances are that your software does not display that information or at least allows the option. Well, I have to look farther ahead than tomorrow. So the jury is out, and I am looking for sum, substance, and facts.......which I am sure you will appreciate in the long run. And that's what I play for....the long run. ) Bill Cheek | Internet: bcheek@cts.com | Compu$erve: 74107,1176 Windows 95 Juggernaut Team | Microsoft MVP | Moderator - SCANRADIO --- Hertzian Mail+ * Origin: Hertzian Intercept-San Diego 619-578-9247 (6pm-1pm) (1:202/731) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 154 SCANNERS Ref: DCY00002 Date: 08/27/96 From: BILL CHEEK Time: 12:12am \/To: DANIEL ARGANBRIGHT (Read 12 times) Subj: WinRadio Coming! Yo! Daniel: Tuesday August 20 1996 01:18, Daniel Arganbright wrote to Bill Cheek: DA> Hey Bill! Where did you order yours from and what did the $$$ end up DA> being? According to their ad it is supposed to be comparable to "a high DA> end sound card" but from what I've seen to get one out of the UK is bout DA> $600 US. Stay tuned, I will have a full report in a few more days. Bill Cheek | Internet: bcheek@cts.com | Compu$erve: 74107,1176 Windows 95 Juggernaut Team | Microsoft MVP --- Hertzian Mail+ * Origin: Hertzian Intercept-San Diego 619-578-9247 (6pm-1pm) (1:202/731) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 154 SCANNERS Ref: DCY00003 Date: 08/27/96 From: BILL CHEEK Time: 12:13am \/To: MARTIN NIEMEYER (Read 12 times) Subj: RULEMAKING: PGP SIGS Yo! Martin: Tuesday August 20 1996 21:02, Martin Niemeyer wrote to Richard Dale: MN> In this echo, the only person I have ever seen mention the subject MN> in the past AND now has been you. If you look back less than a week MN> you will even see a message from our moderator, Bill Cheek which MN> quotes a 15 LINE MESSAGE with a one line response. That's is about MN> the same ratio as my message, so I guess, I won't feel too guilty MN> about my slip up. But then again, up to this point, this message is MN> a total waste of space because it has absolutely nothing to do with MN> scanning. The topic is open for discussion until further notice. Some good comments are coming out and I don't want to discourage them. As far as quoting is concerned, it is not one of my pet peeves. We can tolerate a lot of things.......like quoting, tag lines, digital signatures, etc, before we can tolerate hostility, flames, and ill-will. The bad vibes are about gone and in appreciation of that, I have not been much of a stickler for the small stuff. IMHO, excessive quoting isn't a virtue, but bandwidth and the cost of it just are not hot items these days. The cost is not exhorbitant anymore. In favor of clear and accurate communciations, we will not rag on the small stuff to speak of. Anything out of hand is unacceptable, but I like the limits of reason this echo has been following of late. Bill Cheek | Internet: bcheek@cts.com | Compu$erve: 74107,1176 Windows 95 Juggernaut Team | Microsoft MVP | Moderator - SCANRADIO --- Hertzian Mail+ * Origin: Hertzian Intercept-San Diego 619-578-9247 (6pm-1pm) (1:202/731)