--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 150 BIKE NET Ref: EF300005 Date: 10/30/97 From: J CLEVENGER Time: 03:40pm \/To: VERN FAULKNER (Read 2 times) Subj: Holy Bike Weight Batman! VF> Well, I figured that part out - save that I don't VF> have a bathroom scale. Taking my bike into the gym A friend of mind got a cool electronic digital bathroom scale at a thrift store for $3.99 and it worked well. I've never bothered to weigh my bike. --- Maximus 2.02 * Origin: Outdoor Focus - University Place, WA (206)565-7730 (1:138/123) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 150 BIKE NET Ref: EF300006 Date: 10/30/97 From: J CLEVENGER Time: 03:43pm \/To: RICHARD GLAZER (Read 2 times) Subj: Brakes on a budget RG> The double pivot brake is a side pull type and the RG> v-brake is more like a cantilever. They are simple RG> to adjust and probably more so then center pull. I Both double pivot and v-brake are simpler to adjust than regular center pull cantilevered brakes? --- Maximus 2.02 * Origin: Outdoor Focus - University Place, WA (206)565-7730 (1:138/123) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 150 BIKE NET Ref: EF300007 Date: 10/30/97 From: J CLEVENGER Time: 03:45pm \/To: BENJAMIN COHEN (Read 2 times) Subj: BICYCLING AND YOUR PROSTATE BC> I've got a spare EZ-Seat (with lambs wool covers) BC> if you want to try it! How much are you asking for it? I might give it a try. --- Maximus 2.02 * Origin: Outdoor Focus - University Place, WA (206)565-7730 (1:138/123) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 150 BIKE NET Ref: EF300008 Date: 10/30/97 From: J CLEVENGER Time: 03:47pm \/To: DEWEY THIESSEN (Read 2 times) Subj: Mcdonalds kills more than DT> No, this simply isn't true. Motor vehicles are a DT> mode of transportation that is absolutely necessary DT> for survival in our society and bicycling is a DT> chosen form of recreation. (I realize there are Thank you, Mr. Oil Company Representative. This is exactly the sort of brainwashing we don't need here. Bicycles are a legitimate form of transportation which pre-date the f***ing automobile. What's next? Are you going to say that pedestrianism is a form of recreation? --- Maximus 2.02 * Origin: Outdoor Focus - University Place, WA (206)565-7730 (1:138/123) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 150 BIKE NET Ref: EF300009 Date: 10/30/97 From: J CLEVENGER Time: 03:54pm \/To: SCOTT ERIK ANDERSON (Read 2 times) Subj: perils of the Lions Gate Bridge SEA> route across the Lions SEA> Gate Bridge is just one more example of the SEA> obstacles placed in the path SEA> of those who opt for a less environmentally destructive means of SEA> transportation. That said, I do realize that the entire structure is SEA> about to crumble away and fall into the drink - This is an outrage. P.S. Thanks for cross-posting this! --- Maximus 2.02 * Origin: Outdoor Focus - University Place, WA (206)565-7730 (1:138/123) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 150 BIKE NET Ref: EF300010 Date: 10/30/97 From: J CLEVENGER Time: 03:59pm \/To: VERN FAULKNER (Read 2 times) Subj: BEEF kills - Outlaw COWS VF> It follows, then, that the original poster (and VF> apparently yourself) _must_ support use of helmets VF> in cars _IF_ medical cost of skull/facial injuries VF> is used as a rationale for mandatory use of helmets. I'll bet he responds with the same dishwater "I wear a seatbelt" reply that Mr. Head-Trauma EMT did. VF> I can't explain it much simpler than that. In VF> short, the arguments used by the original poster of VF> that idea are - to be kind - utter bunkum. I'm afraid you'll have to grunt and stomp the ground before they'll understand you. :-) VF> One will also note that the original poster has yet to respond with VF> valid statistics relevent to the case: they have VF> cited the cost of skull injuries, but not stated VF> what fraction of these (assuredly miniscule) are VF> from cyclists alone; they have not cited the actual Propagandists don't respond with facts, just more propaganda. I believe this would all stop if someone would just invent a bicycle that consumed a little gasoline while you pedaled, and then require everyone to ride those. :-) --- Maximus 2.02 * Origin: Outdoor Focus - University Place, WA (206)565-7730 (1:138/123) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 150 BIKE NET Ref: EF300011 Date: 10/31/97 From: RICHARD GLAZER Time: 01:18am \/To: VERN FAULKNER (Read 2 times) Subj: Sales Tax As far as the 7% sales tax goes the store doesn't waive the sales tax because they have to pay the government the sales tax. Instead they take off 7% fromthe price of the merchandise. Richard G --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: Juxtaposition BBS. Lasalle, Quebec, Canada (1:167/133) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 150 BIKE NET Ref: EF300012 Date: 10/30/97 From: VERN FAULKNER Time: 06:41pm \/To: RICHARD GLAZER (Read 2 times) Subj: Brakes on a budget RG> I understand your feeling for sub quality parts. Forks RG> can be a little complex and if produced improperly can RG> cause problems. As for the brakes do you feel the v- RG> brake cons as you have put it cause problems as far as RG> safety or stopping power or something else? I'm having some difficulty trying to clue into what you're referring to. (Please - if you can quote, that helps. I read a _ton_ of mail in a week) I have no real knowledge of V-brakes vs Caliper, or anything else. DId you perhaps quote a message of mine, where I'd put text of someone else's thoughts? OTherwise, I'm confuzzled. I've only got cheapo U-brakes on my hunk of ud... --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: Warm Fire, Hearty Helpings - Fox n' Dragon Inn (1:340/44) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 150 BIKE NET Ref: EF300013 Date: 10/31/97 From: DEWEY THIESSEN Time: 10:24am \/To: J CLEVENGER (Read 2 times) Subj: Mcdonalds kills more than JC> Bicycles are a legitimate form of transportation which JC> pre-date the f***ing automobile. So do horses, but that doesn't make them transportation in today's society. Just for the record, I'm an avid cyclist and I don't work for, or am brainwashed by, an oil company. I'm a realist. Some jobs simply don't lend themselves to cycling as transportation. JC> What's next? Are you JC> going to say that pedestrianism is a form of recreation? No, but as a matter of fact I do enjoy walking as a recreation too. J, I don't mean to offend you and it's obvious that the rest of the echo's participants are tired of the helmet discussion. Let's just agree to disagree and stick to constructive discussions about cycling, ok? Dewey --- timEd-B11 * Origin: The Dew Line, Flower Mound TX, Metro 972-724-0938 (1:130/24) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 150 BIKE NET Ref: EF300014 Date: 10/31/97 From: RICHARD GLAZER Time: 09:35pm \/To: MICHAEL ROSSIK (Read 2 times) Subj: NumbnessI never tried the insoles so let21:35:1210/31/97 I never tried the insole so let me know how it goes. Richard G --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: Juxtaposition BBS. Lasalle, Quebec, Canada (1:167/133)