--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 150 BIKE NET Ref: DFS00002 Date: 11/22/96 From: MICHAEL ROSSIK Time: 09:47am \/To: STEVEN MCFARLANE (Read 4 times) Subj: CATALOG PHONE #'S SM> Here's one for you: SM> SM> The Colorado Cyclist, Inc. SM> 3970 Bijou Street SM> Colorado Springs, Colorado SM> 80909-9946 SM> SM> TEL (Sales): 1-800-688-8600 SM> FAX: 719-591-4041 SM> http://www.colcyc.com SM> Catalogue requests: colcyc@rmi.net Thanks for the Info and the Tip I've made a note of it! Do you think my wife will be able to fit the Dual Suspension CannonDale in my stocking? 8-D Thanks again for the Info _ _ _ \-\o - (_)/ _\, (_) o . _ _____ / ~(_) / \ _ _ \ / \/ \ __ __o A Proud Member of (_) / Michael Rossik \ _ --_`\<;_ The Seven Hills Wheelmen ___/ Netmail: 1:322/305 \ ______(_)/_(_)____ Worcester, MA. --- TriToss (tm) Professional 10.0 - (Unregistered) * Origin: This is from Reality Bytes! (508) 987-7915 (1:322/305.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 150 BIKE NET Ref: DFS00003 Date: 11/21/96 From: LEAH ROZHON Time: 07:43pm \/To: BILL PIEHLER (Read 4 times) Subj: Computers *[Quoting Bill Piehler to Leah Rozhon] On 11-09-96 19:27, [About Cateye Solar Computers]* Hi Bill, BP> sorry to have upset you, but I didn't. Well I noticed on the shelves BP> in the bike store electronic devices when I was looking for an BP> oddometer, you know, the mechanical type driven by the spokes.... and BP> saw one from VDO advertised in on of the mags, but wasn't aware that BP> they are so widely used.I only have a touring bike...hehehe. I saw your post in the Travel echo and replied that hikers/walkers have computers, too. I hope you get the message, and please reply if you do as I think I'm having a problem getting out on that echo. Pedometers, as they're called, have multiple finctions also. They aren't quite as accurate, though, because they have to be set to your stride length and that varies with the terrain. BP> I certainly does, Leah....Thanks for the info...and give an oldtimer BP> on his antiquated bike a smile when you zoom past him or her... Can I ask how old you are and what kind of a bike you have? I really thought you were kidding me about the computer....:-) Leah ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: Star Spawn BBS (1:115/477.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 150 BIKE NET Ref: DFT00000 Date: 11/21/96 From: KEN PECK Time: 06:31am \/To: BRIAN STEWART (Read 4 times) Subj: Re: daily commute -=> Quoting Brian Stewart to Ken Peck <=- BS> I've seen a number of three wheeled "bicycles" on the roads around BS> here-- they seemed to be rather popular with older folks and/or people BS> who are physically disabled-- i.e. they can be ridden at lower speeds BS> and not fall over. Maybe when I reach my 90s about 60 years from now, BS> I'll get myself one (unless someone figures out how to reverse the BS> aging process, in which case I might train for the triathalon! :-) > Oddly, tricycles are inherently unstable and prone to tilt over. > Remember the silly trike routine on Laugh In. Well, maybe at your > age, you never saw Laugh In. BS> I saw Laugh In, I think, but was too young to remember it! :-) BS> These trikes are designed differently than the ones they used to make BS> for kids (i.e., before the advent of Big Wheels.) They seem to be BS> designed to have a lower center of gravity-- but not having ridden BS> one, I can't say how they handle, or how well they corner, etc. But I BS> HAVE seen them tooling around at the speed of a slow walk, slower than BS> is practical with a regular bike. The "center of gravity" is certainly a factor. And a big guy riding a kid's trike makes it all the more unstable. The problem arises on turns. As you should know from bicycling, turning is accomplished on a bicycle more by leaning into the turn than turning the wheel. If the wheel is turned without leaning, you will take a very severe fall and the bike will literally throw you to the ground. The same thing happens on a trike, except that trikes don't lean very well. === ==== = _@ Ken Peck + _ \<._ ========= (_)/ (_) Kenneth_Peck@clr.com BS> Well, the bbs says I should log off now. See you later. BS> BAS BS> -!- FLAME v1.1 BS> ! Origin: 9J9 - Internet/Fidonet/Usenet - 608-256-5697 - Madison WI BS> (1:121/99) ... Recursion, noun: see recursion. --- Blue Wave/QWK v2.10 --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: Texas Phoenix (1:130/1017.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 150 BIKE NET Ref: DFT00001 Date: 11/22/96 From: BARRY AUSTERN Time: 09:33pm \/To: BRIAN STEWART (Read 4 times) Subj: FIT FOR LIFE If I can put in my two cents here, I got my PhD in hormone biochemistry many years ago. Dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA) is a precursor to many steroid hormones and in my expert opinion you are playing with fire if you take it without a physician's direction. Certainly it will produce more testosterone, and testosterone will increase your strength and stamina, but guess what testosterone is (other than the major male hormone). It is precisely the "steroids" that athletes have been taking for many years and getting sick (or even dead) from. A really decent man like the football player Lyle Alzado is now pushing up daisies because of doing that. --- * Freddie 1.2.5 * I never miss Rush Limbaugh! He's far to big a target! * Origin: Access! Information Services (1:108/155) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 150 BIKE NET Ref: DFT00002 Date: 11/22/96 From: BARRY AUSTERN Time: 09:33pm \/To: ADAM PREBLE (Read 4 times) Subj: Bike Polo! AP> Don't know how on topic this really is, but do any of you play bike AP> polo? Is that where you ride horses and hit a bicycle with a mallet rather than a ball? --- * Freddie 1.2.5 * * Join the Society for kosher roquefort: Jews for Cheeses! * Origin: Access! Information Services (1:108/155) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 150 BIKE NET Ref: DFT00003 Date: 11/23/96 From: BRIAN STEWART Time: 09:10pm \/To: ADAM PREBLE (Read 4 times) Subj: BIKE POLO! > Don't know how on topic this really is, but do any of you > play > bike polo? My friends and I have been experementing with it since > the > summer and are prepared to compete in the spring locally. > > -ROCKO- > I had hoped to play mountain bike polo this past summer-- but my work schedule proved to be too erratic (LONG story!) Hopefully, this next summer will prove to be better for it, since I am working in a different section of the hospital (for the same lousy pay), which has a better schedule. (Hey, with the job interviews I have been getting lately, maybe I will even have a job that pays decently-- AND doesn't have me coming in for work on weekends!) Anyway, I think that MTB polo is on topic for here-- I've been having a general fitness discussion which is only slightly related to bicycling, after all! BAS --- FLAME v1.1 * Origin: 9J9 - Internet/Fidonet/Usenet - 608-256-5697 - Madison WI (1:121/99) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 150 BIKE NET Ref: DFU00000 Date: 11/23/96 From: BILL PIEHLER Time: 05:57pm \/To: RICHARD GLAZER (Read 4 times) Subj: Biking in PEI Hi Richard, RG>Hi Bill. PEI Is the Accronynm for Prince Edward Island. It RG>in a province in Canada to the east. It is very beautiful RG>and in the summer many people travel there to view many RG>wonderful sites. Yea, looked it up on the map, must be a beautiful place, with many camping places. Hope you'll have many happy hours biking there. Greetings from Redland...Bill * OLX 2.1 TD * e-mail: bill.piehler@ssbbs.brisnet.org.au --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: Soft-Tech, Qld, Australia +61-7-3869-2666 (3:640/201) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 150 BIKE NET Ref: DFU00001 Date: 11/23/96 From: BILL PIEHLER Time: 06:32pm \/To: STEVEN MCFARLANE (Read 4 times) Subj: Bike Suspension Konnichiwa, Steven! SM> BP> Yea, I haven't seen any bike with this suspension on the road out SM> BP> here. But that doesn't mean they aren't around. As they are making SM>There aren't many...yet. The first one I read about was a Cannondale SM>model called Silk Road about 1-1.5 years ago. It only had front SM>suspension, about 15mm of travel. On some of the roads out here suspension on bikes might be a good thing, but not too many are riding bikes on them. I was greatly surprised, when on our last trip out west, we met three girls, that had just crossed one of the remotest areas of OZ with their bikes. SM> SM> great but I won't ride something that looks like a piece of SM> SM> aircraft undercarriage." He's right - it is not all that SM> SM> beautiful but I can still dream about it. SM>He also told me that the Paris-Roubaix race is famed for having really bad SM>roads so dual suspension makes the extra weight worth it. Bianchi also SM>had a hybrid bike with front-only suspension in the catalogue. hmmm next time I see one I must investigate further...am a bit out of tough with the latest bike developments.....:) SM> BP> it's nice to dream a bit, after all deeds evolve from dreams... SM>I read reviews of Ferraris for the same reason (g). Have been there done that.....have since scaled my dreams down to a more realistic level......I think....hehehe Reading maps, about places and people, dreaming to go there one day... SM> SM>I can't wait for next year when I might buy something new. Why wait for next year?....oh well it's only another 6 weeks to go. SM> BP> Hey Steve, please tell me more about your Origin line. Are you SM> BP> biking in Japan? SM>Indeed, I am. Since we are getting off the topic in the subject line, SM>I've sent you another message about biking here. Great, looking forward to hear from you Saionara....Cya Bill * OLX 2.1 TD * e-mail: bill.piehler@ssbbs.brisnet.org.au --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: Soft-Tech, Qld, Australia +61-7-3869-2666 (3:640/201) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 150 BIKE NET Ref: DFU00002 Date: 11/23/96 From: BILL PIEHLER Time: 07:38pm \/To: STEVEN MCFARLANE (Read 4 times) Subj: Biking Japan Konnichiwa, Steven! SM>I promised to answer your question about biking here: Thanks mate. SM> BP> Hey Steve, please tell me more about your Origin line. Are you biking SM> BP> in Japan? SM>Let's see. I teach English to company workers here so let's use some SM>adjectives. Biking in Japan is: Adjectives...hmmmm SM>1. Expensive. This is true for everything else here as well so it is to SM>be expected. Parts and supplies can cost up to twice as much as they SM>would in North America. The actual bikes aren't that much more expensive SM>but still more than the North American list. How about the size. I have heard, that most of the bikes, that are used by the local people, which must be quite a large number, are not really suitable for.....let me see....ahhhh...Ganjies, is that the expression used by the locals for strangers from America? SM>2. Confusing. Most of Japan is mountainous so the straight roads are SM>mostly highways and not suitable for riding. Most other roads do not have SM>names, tend to quite winding and are not laid out on nice grid patterns. SM>Navigating is done (in my case) by: SM>- good map reading. I find a 1:50,000 map shows enough detail and makes a SM>nice easy-to-use 1 cm = 500 m scale. I can't read Japanese all that well SM>but I'm mostly okay with maps. Must be good hiking country SM>- dead reckoning. As in, "Let's see...I cross the bridge on the Tenryu SM>river and follow Route 150 for about...um...3 km and then look for where SM>it splits and follow the left fork." A good cycling computer comes in SM>handy. Hey Steven how about one of the navigating computers, that let you know exactly where you are. Satellite Navigation. They should be not too expensive over there? SM>3. Crowded. In addition to being winding, the roads are quite narrow. A SM>helmet is essential and I use a mirror clipped onto my glasses. Yes I use a helmet. Is compulsory now. Besides, it tkes the task of having to make a decision what to wear when riding......;) SM>4. Hilly. Again, it's the mountains. I would like to get a road bike SM>with a double chainring that has a 53T large ring and really zoom but I SM>need a triple chainring with its low gearing to get up some of the hills SM>around here. Might be advantageous to keep the revs up, and not bust something, including your guts.. SM>5. Hot. Japan is in Asia and summers tend to hot and humid. I usually SM>stop riding in July and August because it is just too draining even early SM>in the morning. I've had the experience of going riding for 30-40 SM>minutes, work up a total body sweat without going very fast, come home and SM>shower and *still* be sweating when I come out. Yecch. Know the feeling, is happening to me every day now, take my steed out for a ride every morning, on a well sorted out circuit, of about 14 ks length. Gets the old ticker really working.....sometimes the sweat dripping of my forehead obscures my vision .....and loving it....hehehe SM>As for me, I live in a town called Shimada on the Pacific coast, about 210 SM>km southeast of Tokyo. If you can't find that on your map, look for a SM>town called Shizuoka about 180 km from Tokyo and I'm 30 km past that on a SM>river. Shimada, yup found it, there must be mountains in the background..... hmmmm you might even see Mt Fuji....can you? SM>The area is hilly but not bad for riding. Going up the river is quite SM>beautiful with enough up-and-down to make it interesting and not too much SM>traffic early in the morning. There is a large park across the street That sounds really good, refreshing for the mind as well as for the body. SM>that has a paved road of about 2.8 km around the perimeter so I can also SM>go there for some round-and-round. There is a large hill just west of me SM>that needs the middle chainring to get up one side and the small ring to SM>get up the other but after that it's flat all the way to a town called SM>Hamamatsu, about 70 km farther down the coast from Shizuoka. It makes for Hamamatsu...yup down the coast a bit...found it. Seems to be a larger town. SM>an nice metric century (100 km) ride if the weather is nice. I follow the SM>train tracks to help navigation and can stop and use the stations' SM>washrooms to refill my water bottles. Noticed the railway line as well as the freeway along that route. SM>Right now, it's too dark in the morning for me since most of the small SM>roads do not have lights. It's too cold as well so I've given up until SM>spring. Sensible thing to do. SM>Well, that should tell you more than you really wanted to know about SM>riding here. If you have any more questions, please let me know. Enjoyed following your ride. Do you meet many of the local people on your ride. Another thing I wanted to ask you is about the quality of the bikes you use. I only have a sort of a Mountain Touring Bike. Not really what I wanted but the only one that came close to my old fashioned tastes... One thing I have noticed is the relative short live of the rear gears-sprocket, they seem to never last longer then two years. Or about 6000km then some of the teeth are worn away or even broken off. Is that normal for just using the bike for touring and every day use? Greetings from sunny Redland...Bill Sajonara....(correct me please) * OLX 2.1 TD * e-mail: bill.piehler@ssbbs.brisnet.org.au --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: Soft-Tech, Qld, Australia +61-7-3869-2666 (3:640/201) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 150 BIKE NET Ref: DFV00000 Date: 11/24/96 From: BARRY AUSTERN Time: 04:42pm \/To: GOKAY HUZ (Read 4 times) Subj: Yaw bu alanin dili ne??? GH> Selam All, GH> GH> Yaw bu alana herkes istedii dilde yazi yazabiliyormu yaw??? Cat run over your keyboard? --- * Freddie 1.2.5 * Hi, my name is Annie Key. Please don't hit me! * Origin: Access! Information Services (1:108/155)