--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 150 BIKE NET Ref: DEC00001 Date: 10/04/96 From: RICHARD GLAZER Time: 08:51pm \/To: JOHN O'NEILL (Read 4 times) Subj: Re: Clif Bars Hi John. I agree with you that proteins are very important. But because protein take very long to break down and are not an immediate source of energy, it would not benefit you during the ride. After a long and hard work do combine carbs with protein since muscle repair benefit from the protein. Richard --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: (1:167/133) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 150 BIKE NET Ref: DEC00002 Date: 10/06/96 From: KEITH KNAPP Time: 05:07pm \/To: BRIAN STEWART (Read 4 times) Subj: RE: DAILY COMMUTE Ozkal said: BS> > It rarely gets below 0Cantigrades in my country. What about you? BS> > BS>Here in Wisconsin, it gets well below the freezing point of water and TAYS BS>there, seemingly forever! :-) (Unfortunately, I can not remember the BS>formula for converting from the American system to the more logical Metric BS>system.) I hope you don't hate me for this, but last Thursday here in NM it was 82 degrees and balmy. Take a Fahrenheit temp, subtract 32, then multiply by 5/9 to get Centigrade. Take a Centigrade temp, multiply by 9/5, then add 32 to get Fahrenheit. Boiling 100 212 | | | | | | C | | F | | | | Freezing 0 32 In Fahrenheit, freezing is 32 degrees higher than in Centigrade. If you remove that arbitrary 32 from the boiling point, 212 - 32 = 180. Having gotten the 32 out of the way, it becomes obvious that temps on the two scales have the relation 100/180, or 180/100, depending on which way you're going. That reduces to 5/9 or 9/5. I once wrote a Basic program to figure this stuff. It took me three hours -- I didn't realize that going one way you deal with the 32 first, and the other way you deal with it last! * SLMR 2.1a * I shoulda toined left at Albakoikey! -- B. Bunny --- PCBoard (R) v15.3/M 2 * Origin: *Binary illusions BBS* Albuq. NM (505) 897-8282 V.34 (1:301/45) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 150 BIKE NET Ref: DEC00003 Date: 10/02/96 From: CHERYL HULL Time: 08:51am \/To: ALL (Read 4 times) Subj: schwinn (old)? To all, I just bought a red schwinn breeze it is all original down to the paint and the tires and even the handgrips does anyone know the year schwinn made the breeze and what it is worth if anything or where to look for a date when the bike was made. appreciate any information. thanks. --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: The SwampRat BBS (503) 293-4904 USR 28.8 V.34 (1:105/352.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 150 BIKE NET Ref: DEC00004 Date: 10/04/96 From: BRIAN STEWART Time: 04:06pm \/To: JOHN O'NEILL (Read 4 times) Subj: RE: DAILY COMMUTE Hello! > > Hi Guys! > One or two Issues ago in bicycling magazine they had an artical > about > a test at some train station in California where they setup bike > storage > and bike rentals. You can keep or rent a bike at the train > station, you > take the train to the city and once there you can bike commute the > rest > of the way. The rental bikes were Specalized Globe bikes with the > internal geared hubs. > > John O'Neill > Sounds like a good idea-- although Madison, Wisconsin's a little too small to adopt a system like that. (The city hired a consultant from Seattle to study the city for a light rail system, and, basically, the consultant told them that the city wasn't big enough for a commuter rail system.) I'm not familar with the Specialized Globe bikes (although Specialized's got a good reputation, I guess.) What are "internal geared hubs"? (A local bicycle shop had a bicycle from Switzerland in their window for awhile that had the chain completely enclosed, along with several other odd features-- is that the same sort of thing? It seemed to me like a good idea, but the Swiss bicycle cost several thousand U.S. dollars, so I definately could not afford it!) BAS --- FLAME v1.1 * Origin: 9J9 - Internet/Fidonet/Usenet - 608-256-5697 - Madison WI (1:121/99) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 150 BIKE NET Ref: DEC00005 Date: 10/04/96 From: OZKAL OZSOY Time: 08:51pm \/To: DENNIS FARKAS (Read 4 times) Subj: Re: Against rain. DF> be down right leathal in any kind of a cross wind (unless of course DF> you and your bike weigh in excess of 200 kilos). If you are a fan of i didn't think of this before. But you're right. May be i had better think on a special design whici is less affected by lateral wind. Or may be i simply buid a front window from mica for the bike. Thanks. ... Speed is not dangerous, stopping very fast that kills. --- * Origin: The Sentinel >> http://www.lookup.com/homepages/80180 (2:430/219) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 150 BIKE NET Ref: DEC00006 Date: 10/04/96 From: KIM LAMBERT Time: 03:52pm \/To: ALL (Read 4 times) Subj: Concorde Lite I'm wondering if any of you know of the Concorde Lite MB? Is it something worth hanging on to, or should I get rid of it and buy a better bike? Most of our biking is on country roads, with lots of gravel on the berm, so we need something sturdy enough to cope with the shifting conditions. What else on a bike would determine it's worthiness? Thanks for any help, and take care......Kim ... E-mail - kim.lambert@primetime.org || Fidonet: 1:252/301 ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- PCBoard (R) v15.22/M 25 * Origin: PrimeTime * Muskoka (705)689-1757 (1:252/301) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 150 BIKE NET Ref: DEC00007 Date: 10/05/96 From: OZKAL OZSOY Time: 05:52pm \/To: BRIAN STEWART (Read 4 times) Subj: RE: DAILY COMMUTE BS> Keep us posted about the shell idea-- I've seen pictures of some Okey i'll. But after telling my idea to some people they didn't tell me things in favour of my idea. Then i've changed my idea a little bit from an outer shell to a kind of small roof and front wind-glass for the bike. That may be less difficult to build and also less problematic in the wind. What do you think? BS> human-powered, land vehicle speed record. Will you write these records in this echo? How fast they were etc. BS> I don't like the extra resistance from a generator. (It IS a problem I usually don't feel the generator. Of course it depends on the quiality of the generator mostly. My old generator used to force me a lot. But my new one is better. The only problem for the generator is, the slippage problem when it is wet. BS> STAYS there, seemingly forever! :-) (Unfortunately, I can not Then i'm lucky for temperature. but we have air pollution in the winter. That's very bad. One may ride in cold weather but not in excessive smoke, choking all the time. BS> work on my bicycle. I wasn't ready for it! I didn't get warm until BS> halfway to work! Somewhere on the world, you get up in the morning, jump on the bike and ride to work, in an other part of the world i do the same thing every morning. Fun isn't it. BS> Hope to read more from you soon! Me too, bye. ... Speed is not dangerous, stopping very fast that kills. --- * Origin: The Sentinel >> http://www.lookup.com/homepages/80180 (2:430/219) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 150 BIKE NET Ref: DEC00008 Date: 10/06/96 From: OZKAL OZSOY Time: 02:16am \/To: CHERYL HULL (Read 4 times) Subj: Re: schwinn (old)? Hi, welcome to this echo. As I know, schwinn is an old company and built the first bikes which can be called as the mountain bikes. Hope we all read you i this echo again. Bye. ... Speed is not dangerous, stopping very fast that kills. --- * Origin: The Sentinel >> http://www.lookup.com/homepages/80180 (2:430/219) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 150 BIKE NET Ref: DEC00009 Date: 10/07/96 From: BRIAN STEWART Time: 07:40pm \/To: KIM LAMBERT (Read 4 times) Subj: CONCORDE LITE Hello-- > of our biking is on country roads, with lots of gravel on the berm, > so we > need something sturdy enough to cope with the shifting conditions. > What > else on a bike would determine it's worthiness? Thanks for any help, > and > take care......Kim > Mostly I just go with how well I like the way the bike handles, how comfortable I am on it, etc. (I guess, basically, what I am saying is how well I like it....) As far as durability, probably how well it is welded (or glued, for exotic materials), and how often it is riden (daily, weekly, monthly, etc.) Maybe what would work best for your conditions would be a road bike with unusually fat tires (is such a bicycle made? *I* might be interested!) I hope that at least some of what I've said is helpful-- I just finished working out and am not at my most coherent! Good luck, BAS --- FLAME v1.1 * Origin: 9J9 - Internet/Fidonet/Usenet - 608-256-5697 - Madison WI (1:121/99) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 150 BIKE NET Ref: DEC00010 Date: 09/30/96 From: PHIL PILTCH Time: 03:52pm \/To: ALL (Read 4 times) Subj: Re: ahh, cycling! (: -=> Quoting Ken Peck to John O'Neill <=- KP>Actually these are just the tip of the iceburg. The costs of building, KP>maintaining, and ever expanding the system of streets and parking facilities KP>adds considerably to your tax bill and the cost of goods and services you KP>buy. Someone in Washington state took a bond issue for streets and ridges KP>and translated the bond issue into equivalent bicycle alternatives. It seem KP>that they could buy a bicycle (and provide helmets) for every man, woman, an KP>child over about the age six in the city, build an extensive system of ike KP>trails, provide bicycle safety training for the residents over the years t KP>would take to pay off the bonds, and other such goodies . . . and still have KP>several million dollars left over. One could almost make the same statement for access to public transit. Just very soon a new express toll road will be opening. It was started under a previous government, but as with many such projects, was actually on the books some twenty years ago. I was at one of the kiosks the "private" consortium that built the road had set up in a downtown mall to publicise it and drill the poor saps that were there. I was not and am still not convinced this road is a "zero-cost" road, even if the cost of building it is to be covered by the tolls. Tax payers are still on the hook. Funny, but there's always fuss over putting money into bicycle or public transit infrastructure, but road building is treated as a necessary evil. Curiously, with a very minor tax increase, or better still, re-alotment of tax money, every resident in the Greater Toronto Area ( a population of about 4.5 million ) could be supplied a free transit pass each year. What's even more ironic, is that while our public transit system is falling apart, and cyclists are putting up with more car traffic, we now have a new high-tech toll expressway, and an express train service to a new casino - go figure?! KP>And then there are hidden environmental costs. Well, not exactly hidden. I KP>Dallas we are beginning a very expensive lake dredging operation on one of KP>our lakes. It is being filled with sludge that is the runoff from all the KP>streets and parking lots that have been built upstream over the past ouple KP>of decades. And, of course we have no idea what the medical costs of the ai KP>pollution are (unless one happens to have asthma or emphesema. Here in South-Central Ontario, we have already been feeling the effects of high auto use. In the summer, a number of beaches have been closed due to excessive runoff overwhelming the sewage system; rivers and streams are getting all the nasties that get washed off of the roads and parking lots, etc. Other hidden costs are in terms of higher mainenance and servicing costs per capita for low-density, auto-dependent development. Within the core of the city of Toronto, a large number of people travel by bicycle, mostly due to the density typical of an older city. By contrast, the outer surburban areas are much more car dependent. Much of that car traffic flows into to Toronto, though there is still sufficiently good transit, that about 30% do travel by subway or GO train. KP>Nor have I factored in the costs related to the medical treatment and KP>rehabilitation of people injured in car wrecks. Sadly, these are often taken as un-avoidable... I recently saw a British documentary on TV Ontario, called "A is for Accident" which looked the auto crashes and some of their causes. No surprises here. And the irony or the tittle was quite apparent - all the "accidents" were preventable! Phil ___ X SLMR 2.1a X The bicycle: cheap, convenient and fast... --- Maximus/2 3.00 * Origin: One Less Car * Cycling in Toronto * (416) 480-0147 * (1:250/238)