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FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 146 AUTOCAD       Ref: EE200000 Date: 10/01/97
From: STAN BIMSON                                           Time: 12:03am
\/To: ALL                                                 (Read 0 times)
Subj: A_CAD message echo

Echo Tag: A_CAD
Description:
                International AutoCAD/CAD Conference
  An echo for users of Autodesk's AutoCAD(tm), for the discussion of
  any aspect of this PC based CAD software. Utilities, third party
  software, both commercial and shareware, tips, tricks and programming
  of menus, font or shape files, LISP and scripts have all been talked
  about. All levels of users abound. Advertisements of products by
  vendors of any type or personal ads to sell software or hardware are
  NOT welcome. Users may discuss their use of any CAD related
  software/hardware product or service. Many other CAD applications
  have been discussed and are considered on topic.
Rule File: A_CAD.RUL
             International AutoCAD/CAD Conference
                  04/03/91 Updated: 02/27/92
o The main topic of this echo conference is AutoCAD(tm) and the use of
  it, add on products like third party or shareware software, required
  hardware, utilities, tips, tricks and programming of any facet of
  ACAD. Other CAD or PC CAD is also open for discussion.
o Advertisements of products or services by vendors of any type or
  personal ads to sell software or hardware are NOT welcome.
o File listings are highly frowned upon but new file announcements that
  would benefit "the topic" will be permitted, within reason.
o Product or Service announcements fall under advertisements and are
  not allowed. The one, and only one exception will be official
  "Update" announcements from Autodesk about AutoCAD(tm).
o Foul or harsh language is not tolerable and will not be accepted. If
  you don't like what someone has to say for personal reasons, send
  them a reply using netmail - not echomail.
o Some echoes allow aliases, but I tend not to want them. I think most
  of the professionals here want to KNOW who they are dealing with. I
  prefer full names used in the echo.
o This conference is not bound by FidoNet, it's open to any network and
  system that wish to carry the conference. Messages in this conference
  should confirm with the FTSC (FidoNet Technical Standards Committee)
  format and must contain a tear and origin line. The tear line may not
  be longer than 35 characters including the --- characters. The origin
  line must fit on one 80 character wide CRT including the " # Origin:
  " text.
o Eight-bit ASCII is not allowed in this conference. All characters in
  displayed message data (text/header) must be in the range 32 to 126,
  which rules out control characters. Control character can be shown as
  ^@ through ^_ for 0 to 31 or any character can be noted as <ascii
  xxx>.
o Offline readers abound and offer system callers an excellent way of
  reading and replying to messages. These readers need to be configured
  to compile with the rule (above) on 8 bit ASCII characters. Make sure
  that your reader is configured to compile with FidoNet's standards
  (in all respects).
o First rule of any echo is leave the moderating to the moderator. I am
  the moderator, if you have a problem with someone, tell me about it,
  don't post flames, etc. in the conference. I will take whatever
  appropriate action I see fit.
o Treat others as you wish to be treated yourself.
  Last Rule: Don't be annoying nor be easily annoyed.
  A_CAD Moderator: Stan Bimson
  Fidonet 1:116/32  RBBSnet 8:967/108  PCGnet 9:518/332
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FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 146 AUTOCAD       Ref: EE500000 Date: 10/03/97
From: DIK COATES                                            Time: 08:54pm
\/To: PETER WOKKE                                         (Read 0 times)
Subj: Help Needed

--==>> QUOTING Peter Wokke to Dik Coates <<==--
 DC> Does anyone have a means of scaling a drawing with different x and y
 DC> scales?
 PW> My be draw normal lines, and then you rotate the Z-axis a litte then
 PW> plot the  drawing, and look and see. a diffent scale for X and Y.
Thanks for the suggestion... Regards Dik
... "Bother," said Pooh as he strafed the refugees.  
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FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 146 AUTOCAD       Ref: EEK00000 Date: 10/15/97
From: STAN BIMSON                                           Time: 06:52pm
\/To: ALL                                                 (Read 1 times)
Subj: A_CAD message echo

Echo Tag: A_CAD
Description:
                International AutoCAD/CAD Conference
  An echo for users of Autodesk's AutoCAD(tm), for the discussion of
  any aspect of this PC based CAD software. Utilities, third party
  software, both commercial and shareware, tips, tricks and programming
  of menus, font or shape files, LISP and scripts have all been talked
  about. All levels of users abound. Advertisements of products by
  vendors of any type or personal ads to sell software or hardware are
  NOT welcome. Users may discuss their use of any CAD related
  software/hardware product or service. Many other CAD applications
  have been discussed and are considered on topic.
Rule File: A_CAD.RUL
             International AutoCAD/CAD Conference
                  04/03/91 Updated: 02/27/92
o The main topic of this echo conference is AutoCAD(tm) and the use of
  it, add on products like third party or shareware software, required
  hardware, utilities, tips, tricks and programming of any facet of
  ACAD. Other CAD or PC CAD is also open for discussion.
o Advertisements of products or services by vendors of any type or
  personal ads to sell software or hardware are NOT welcome.
o File listings are highly frowned upon but new file announcements that
  would benefit "the topic" will be permitted, within reason.
o Product or Service announcements fall under advertisements and are
  not allowed. The one, and only one exception will be official
  "Update" announcements from Autodesk about AutoCAD(tm).
o Foul or harsh language is not tolerable and will not be accepted. If
  you don't like what someone has to say for personal reasons, send
  them a reply using netmail - not echomail.
o Some echoes allow aliases, but I tend not to want them. I think most
  of the professionals here want to KNOW who they are dealing with. I
  prefer full names used in the echo.
o This conference is not bound by FidoNet, it's open to any network and
  system that wish to carry the conference. Messages in this conference
  should confirm with the FTSC (FidoNet Technical Standards Committee)
  format and must contain a tear and origin line. The tear line may not
  be longer than 35 characters including the --- characters. The origin
  line must fit on one 80 character wide CRT including the " # Origin:
  " text.
o Eight-bit ASCII is not allowed in this conference. All characters in
  displayed message data (text/header) must be in the range 32 to 126,
  which rules out control characters. Control character can be shown as
  ^@ through ^_ for 0 to 31 or any character can be noted as <ascii
  xxx>.
o Offline readers abound and offer system callers an excellent way of
  reading and replying to messages. These readers need to be configured
  to compile with the rule (above) on 8 bit ASCII characters. Make sure
  that your reader is configured to compile with FidoNet's standards
  (in all respects).
o First rule of any echo is leave the moderating to the moderator. I am
  the moderator, if you have a problem with someone, tell me about it,
  don't post flames, etc. in the conference. I will take whatever
  appropriate action I see fit.
o Treat others as you wish to be treated yourself.
  Last Rule: Don't be annoying nor be easily annoyed.
  A_CAD Moderator: Stan Bimson
  Fidonet 1:116/32  RBBSnet 8:967/108  PCGnet 9:518/332
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FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 146 AUTOCAD       Ref: EER00000 Date: 10/19/97
From: JAMES ROOT                                            Time: 01:04am
\/To: STAN BIMSON                                         (Read 0 times)
Subj: Re: A_CAD message echo

Hi there!
Just thought that I would say hi and introduce myself. I'm a registered
AutoCAD user and also I'm a CAD/CAM Specialist.
Presently using version 13, and like it very much. Being a draftsman
for many years I appreciate no pens to clean, drafting instruments
to drop and chip etc., etc...
Presently reviewing version 14, which so far looks promising as well.
It certainly has come a long way since version 10! :-)
James Root
Toronto, Canada
... "Yield to temptation, it may not pass your way again." - L. Long
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
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FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 146 AUTOCAD       Ref: EES00000 Date: 10/22/97
From: RALF SIMONIS                                          Time: 01:25pm
\/To: ALL                                                 (Read 0 times)
Subj: CADNET - THE CAD-Network!

Hi ALL!
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          -- ######## ###  ### #######  ###  ##### ####### -- #### --
                        THE CAD PROGRAM-APPLICATION NET
     INTERNATIONAL CAD USERS NETWORK FOR EASIER AND MORE EFFICIENT WORKING
----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
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            FOR INFORMATION GET CADNET.ZIP FROM ANY CAD-NET LOCATION
                  Das erste DEUTSCHE CAD-NET !!!!!!!!!!
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        | +-+ | | +--+ | ++ +-+ |        |   ++ | | | +---+   | |
        | | +-+ | +--+ |  | | | | +----+ | |+ ++| | | +-+     | |
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        | |     | |  | | ++ +-+ |        | | ++   | | +---+   | |
        | |     +-+  +-+ +------+Zone 234+-+  +---+ +-----+   +-+
        | +---------------------------------------------------------+
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 Dieses Netz wurde eigentlich nur gegruendet um Gleichgesinnte zu finden,
 die Interesse an dieser Thematik haben. Die derzeitigen Nodes des Netzes
 warten nur auf neue Leute, die mitmachen wollen, um Erfahrungen, Infos,
 Talks, Tips und Tricks, Utilities, etc. auszutauschen. 
 Nun ist es endlich soweit....
 Es gibt ein deutsches CAD-Netz in dem man sich mal ganz "normal" unterhalten
 kann, ohne gleich das Englisch-Woerterbuch aus der Schublade zu kramen...
 Alle, die beruflich und/oder privat mit CAD-Programmen zu tun haben, 
 finden hier im Netz die richtigen Ansprechpartner. Von "einfachen" 
 2D-CAD-Programmen bis zu komplexen 3D-Konstruktionssystemen soll in diesem
 Netz alles vertreten sein. Tips, Tricks, Problemloesungen, alles kann hier 
 im Netz diskutiert werden und findet sicherlich auch eine Loesung. Die 
 Palette der Themen soll sich einmal von Konstruktion im Maschinenbau
 und Architektur bis Design und Modellierung erstrecken. Also alles was
 mit Computer aided Design zu tun hat :-)
 Dieses Netz ist ein Mail- und File-Netz mit bisher diesen Echos:
  CAD.HOST         - Coordinationsecho fuer die NCs (n/a <HOST)
  CAD.SYSOP         - Coordinationsecho fuer die SysOps (r/o fuer Points)
  CAD.NEWS         - Neuigkeiten rund und ueber das Netz (r/o alle)
  CAD.TALK         - Allgemeine Talkrunde
  CAD.FILE_ANKUEND    - Ankuending neuer Files
  CAD.AUTOCAD      - Diskussionsecho rund um Autodesk's AutoCad
  CAD.AUTOSKETCH    - Diskussionsecho rund um Autodesk's AutoSketch
  CAD.CADDY      - Diskussionsecho rund um das CAD-Programm CADDY
  CAD.CADKEY      - Diskussionsecho rund um das CAD-Programm CADKEY
  CAD.CAD_DOS      - Diskussionsecho rund um DOS-CAD-Programme
  CAD.CAD_WIN      - Diskussionsecho rund um WIN-CAD-Programme
  CAD.MEGACAD      - Diskussionsecho rund um das CAD-Programm MEGACAD
  CAD.MICROSTATION   - Diskussionsecho rund um das CAD-Programm MICROSTATION
  CAD.SHAREWARE      - Diskussionsecho rund um CAD-Shareware
  CAD_ADMI   - Fileecho fuer Node- und Pointlisten (Mandatory)
  CAD_INFO   - Fileecho fuer Info-Files (Mandatory)
  CAD_AC        - Fileecho fuer AutoCAD
  CAD_ACTO     - Fileecho fuer Tools rund um AutoCad
  CAD_AS      - Fileecho fuer AutoSketch
  CAD_ASTO   - Fileecho fuer Tools rund um AutoSketch
  CAD_CK        - Fileecho fuer CadKey
  CAD_CKTO    - Fileecho fuer Tools rund um CadKey
  CAD_MC      - Fileecho fuer MegaCad
  CAD_MCTO    - Fileecho fuer Tools rund um MegaCad
  CAD_OTH     - Fileecho fuer andere CAD-Systeme
  CAD_OTHT    - Fileecho fuer Tools rund um andere CAD-Systeme
  CAD_PE     - Fileecho fuer Pro/Engineer
  CAD_PETO    - Fileecho fuer Tools rund um Pro/Engineer
  CAD_SW       - Fileecho fuer fuer CAD-Shareware
  CAD_SWTO     - Fileecho fuer Tools rund um CAD-Shareware
 Rechts neben den einzelnen Brettern stehen Diskussionsvorschlaege, bzw.
 die Echo-Erklaerungen, die natuerlich variieren koennen. Vorschlaege fuer 
 neue Bretter werden immer dankend entgegengenommen......
 Wer schon immer einen Hang zu solch einer Thematik hatte, und sich nicht
 scheut, auch als Host, Hub, Node oder Point mit zu schreiben, der moege
 bitte das Infofile mit dem Magic CADNET bei folgenden Hosts des Netzes
 requesten.
 Mailbox:                 Vorw./Stadt/Land:     Name:             Fido-AKA:
 ****************************************************************************
 AERO Flightpoint BBS   (ZC/RC) 06196/Hessen    Ralf Simonis      2:244/1542
 AERO Flightpoint BBS   (HOST)  06196/Hessen    Ralf Simonis      2:244/1542
 Hoppelbox              (HOST)  09631/Bayern    Roland Waidhas    2:2494/365
 AKS                    (HOST)  06857/Saarland  Mario Maurer      2:245/6815
 Engine IV              (HOST)  07071/B-Wuertt. Michael Schrading 2:246/1913
 ANDROMEDA              (HOST)  06135/Rh-Pfalz  Roland Herter     2:245/7060
 Aigyptos BBS           (Host)  0511/Nieders.   Andreas Berge     2:2437/40
 YaCaN                  (HOST)  Schweiz         Tobias Gasser     2:301/234
Hier sind nur die Hosts des Netzes aufgelistet. Wer mehr Informationen ueber
Hubs und Nodes im Netz haben moechte, requestet entweder das Infofile oder
wendet sich direkt per E-Mail an den Host seines Bundeslandes. Gibt es
keinen Host fuer Dein Bundesland, so wende Dich bitte an Ralf Simonis,
2:244/1542. Antraege auf Host fuer ein Bundesland/Staat bitte nur an ihn.
Ansonsten Hub-, Node- & Pointantraege an den jeweiligen gewuenschten Uplink!
> HOSTs werden noch fuer folgende Bundeslaender / Staaten gesucht:
      Netz 115:      Schleswig-Holstein
      Netz 135:      Bayern-Sued
      Netz 145:      Brandenburg
      Netz 150:      Berlin
      Netz 155:      Sachsen/Sachsen-Anhalt/Thueringen
      Netz 160:      Nordrhein-Westfalen
      Netz 200:      Oesterreich
                (Weitere HOSTs je nach Bedarf!)
CADNet: 234:125/0 - FSFAN: 81:300/31 - FIDO: 2:244/1542 - USSPORTS: 178:100/1
                            FlyNet: 196:8010/20 
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