--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 145 ASSEMBLY LANG. Ref: E4H00013Date: 04/04/97 From: IAN MOOTE Time: 08:54am \/To: JAN WAGEMAKERS (Read 4 times) Subj: NASM & Linux -> So, I was wondering, Is it possible to write a 100% asm-program with -> NASM for the Linux OS. ^ Should be a question mark: "?" Yes. Read the documentation. If I remember correctly, Nasm was developed under Linux and the author(s) primarily program for Linux. I could be mistaken, however. -> I have nasm on my HD here. Maybe someone can -> give a little example? Sorry, I haven't programmed for Linux yet. Programming is programming, however, whether it's for Dos, Windows, Unix, or whatever. I suggest you check out Linux' documentation for operating system structures and whatnot. Take care. ** Don't Understand Tagline: (A)bort (R)etry (L)augh anyway --- PCBoard (R) v15.3/M 5 * Origin: The GameBoard BBS-9056893982/9409-BurlingtonONCA (1:244/506) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 145 ASSEMBLY LANG. Ref: E4H00014Date: 04/09/97 From: IAN MOOTE Time: 09:02am \/To: SYLVAIN LAUZON (Read 4 times) Subj: critical dos flag -> I need some hint! Inside an interrupt handler i did the following. -> sti -> mov ah,34h -> int 21h -> mov dl,es:[bx] -> cmp dl,01h -> je not_safe .... [...] -> The tsr seem to work fine until i type few keys and lock up very -> hard! I wonder what wrong i did? Your code thinks that it's unsafe to call Dos only when the InDos flag is 01h. This is a logical error. It's actually unsafe to call Dos when the InDos flag is anything but zero. Try this: CMP DL, 00h JNE not_safe Take care. ** Dyslexia: it can warn without striking! --- PCBoard (R) v15.3/M 5 * Origin: The GameBoard BBS-9056893982/9409-BurlingtonONCA (1:244/506) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 145 ASSEMBLY LANG. Ref: E4H00015Date: 04/09/97 From: IAN MOOTE Time: 09:02am \/To: SAM IZZO (Read 4 times) Subj: File-Access Tutorial -> Hey, I wouldn't mind a copy! Could you email it to -> jester@axs.com.au? Not at the moment, but I can probably send a copy to your mailbox at the Comms Barrier BBS (3:632/533). If you don't receive it in a coupla days then let me know and I'll have it sent to your E-Mail box. Thanks, Sam -- I appreciate it! [:) Take care! ** Dumb v2.0: The upgrade from stupid. --- PCBoard (R) v15.3/M 5 * Origin: The GameBoard BBS-9056893982/9409-BurlingtonONCA (1:244/506) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 145 ASSEMBLY LANG. Ref: E4H00016Date: 04/09/97 From: IAN MOOTE Time: 09:02am \/To: BARRY BLOCK (Read 4 times) Subj: sl*t (well, it is!) -> SL> I wonder why english people complain about this word. -> SL> Maybe it has a different sense? -> In english a "sl*t" is a woman who is perceived to have casual sexual -> moral values. You're not wrong in the contemoprary context, but more accurately it's one who is, lives like, or behaves like a pig. I think it says "a slovenly woman" in the dictionary. "Tramp" would be a more accurate word for your definition, and I think is even defined as being a felatrix. Take care. ** Eagles may fly but weasels don't get sucked into jets. --- PCBoard (R) v15.3/M 5 * Origin: The GameBoard BBS-9056893982/9409-BurlingtonONCA (1:244/506) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 145 ASSEMBLY LANG. Ref: E4H00017Date: 04/10/97 From: IAN MOOTE Time: 08:07am \/To: CRAIG HART (Read 4 times) Subj: File-Access Tutorial -> IM> If any of the following people especially could spare the time, I -> IM> would really be grateful for their scrutiny and comments of this -> IM> tutorial: -> yup.. sure thing... you can netmail it to the address on the origin -> line or email it to chart@hyperlink.net.au... take your pick! Thanks a lot, Craig! I appreciate it! I'll NetMail it today! Lemme know if you don't get it. [:) (You're the same origin as Sam Izzo! I just popped his into the NetMail.) Take care. ** Egotism: The anesthetic that dulls the pain of stupidity. --- PCBoard (R) v15.3/M 5 * Origin: The GameBoard BBS-9056893982/9409-BurlingtonONCA (1:244/506) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 145 ASSEMBLY LANG. Ref: E4H00018Date: 04/10/97 From: IAN MOOTE Time: 08:07am \/To: JOHN GARDENIERS (Read 4 times) Subj: Rest. -> I certainly find Nick's posts a lot easier to read than Ian's. Oh; sorry. I try to make them as clear as possible. Can you provide examples? Am I not providing enough detail in my posts or am I providing too much? Or is it just my vocabulary or grammar or what? I guess I'm not really sure what you mean. -> At least Nick didn't feel a need to add an insult or put-down in each -> and every message. Insults? Where? Again, can you provide any examples? I mean, I know that I'm >blunt<, but do I come across as insulting or abusive? I've been on Fido for five years and usually produce in excess of 150 messages per month. In all that time there've only been >two< people who have ever told me that they didn't appreciate the way I've said something, and in both cases I was happy to apologize because they were both absolutely right. If you have a problem with anything I say -- anything at all! -- please feel free to let me know, preferably in NetMail. As far as Nick goes... well... I don't like slagging people when they're not here to defend themselven, but in posting the message that he did he's put me in a somewhat awkward position. The facts of the matter (and I can provide you with a nearly complete transcript of all the messages that both he and I have posted publicly) are that Nick has made some unusual statements which he has been unable to support. He has also not wanted to admit that he was dead wrong on a couple of occasions, does not have a company that I can find (at least not one that's legally registered), and he has lied at >least< once! Basically he's made a fool of himself and is trying to make me the scapegoat by claiming that I've driven him out of the conference. [:( And you've fallen for it. [:( It's really too bad that he's decided to leave because he's unusually bright for his age and really has what it takes to be a very good assembly programmer -- if he can swallow some of his ego, listens to what people are telling him, gets better references, and reads the documentation for his tools!! [:/ Concerning my posting style, I apologize if you find me too blunt. I run a >real< business, not an afterschool hobby wannabe business (although I don't advertise it in every single message like Nick does)! On top of that I teach karate and tai chi in the evenings (and some afternoons) and am currently teaching programming to a small group of thirty- somethings on the weekends. In addition to all that, I do my own hobby programming and a small amount of in-house and "commercial" programming (ie., programming for profit), and I have a family and many friends. And I still have time to squeeze out the odd tutorial or background article from time to time in various echos (low-level hard-drive access, *PU addressing modes, low-level formatting, diagnostic procedure, file- access, and one or two others, I think). I really enjoy FidoNet but there are only so many hours in the day and I can't afford to spend a >lot< of time sitting on my butt reading and replying to echomail. [:) Sometimes I create these messages very quickly so they may not come across as "nice" as they were intended. [:) As you can see, I lead an active and satisfying life and I don't have any "need", as you and Nick put it, to put people down. Again, I'm sorry if you've found me to be insulting, but I assure you that I'm here to discuss and to learn, not to aggravate people or make them feel stupid. If you ever feel that I'm insulting the best way to address the situation would be to simply >tell< me how you feel. [:) For example, JamesV has made it clear that rather than criticize those who post in non-assembly languages, that the point might be better made by converting such code into assembly and re-posting on behalf of the author. Sounds reasonable to me so I'm giving it a shot and we'll see how it turns out. -> I'm still waiting for Ian to be pulled into line. Why wait? What are you waiting for? If you feel that my behaviour is not appropriate or conducive to intelligent discussion then >let me knowmy< input! [;D This is not the [Ian&Nick] conference so I invite any further discussion or comments (from anyone!) via NetMail. Take care and TTYL. ** End rush-hour traffic -- legalize vehicular weaponry now! --- PCBoard (R) v15.3/M 5 * Origin: The GameBoard BBS-9056893982/9409-BurlingtonONCA (1:244/506) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 145 ASSEMBLY LANG. Ref: E4H00019Date: 04/10/97 From: IAN MOOTE Time: 08:07am \/To: DENIS BOYLES (Read 4 times) Subj: s(a)lut (well, it is!) -> I would take it as a typo where he really meant to say salut. Which -> is french for hi or some other similar greeting. (not sure if it's -> salut or salute) "Salut." [:) Take care. ** Enslavement is like old age, it creeps up on you. --- PCBoard (R) v15.3/M 5 * Origin: The GameBoard BBS-9056893982/9409-BurlingtonONCA (1:244/506) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 145 ASSEMBLY LANG. Ref: E4H00020Date: 04/11/97 From: IAN MOOTE Time: 09:29am \/To: CRAIG HART (Read 4 times) Subj: File-Access Tutorial -> IM> If any of the following people especially could spare the time, I -> IM> would really be grateful for their scrutiny and comments of this -> IM> tutorial: -> yup.. sure thing... you can netmail it to the address on the origin -> line or email it to chart@hyperlink.net.au... take your pick! Thanks a lot, Craig! I appreciate it! I'll NetMail it today! Lemme know if you don't get it. [:) (You're the same origin as Sam Izzo! I just popped his into the NetMail.) Take care. ** Egotism: The anesthetic that dulls the pain of stupidity. --- PCBoard (R) v15.3/M 5 * Origin: The GameBoard BBS-9056893982/9409-BurlingtonONCA (1:244/506) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 145 ASSEMBLY LANG. Ref: E4H00021Date: 04/11/97 From: IAN MOOTE Time: 09:29am \/To: JOHN GARDENIERS (Read 4 times) Subj: Rest. -> I certainly find Nick's posts a lot easier to read than Ian's. Oh; sorry. I try to make them as clear as possible. Can you provide examples? Am I not providing enough detail in my posts or am I providing too much? Or is it just my vocabulary or grammar or what? I guess I'm not really sure what you mean. -> At least Nick didn't feel a need to add an insult or put-down in each -> and every message. Insults? Where? Again, can you provide any examples? I mean, I know that I'm >blunt<, but do I come across as insulting or abusive? I've been on Fido for five years and usually produce in excess of 150 messages per month. In all that time there've only been >two< people who have ever told me that they didn't appreciate the way I've said something, and in both cases I was happy to apologize because they were both absolutely right. If you have a problem with anything I say -- anything at all! -- please feel free to let me know, preferably in NetMail. As far as Nick goes... well... I don't like slagging people when they're not here to defend themselven, but in posting the message that he did he's put me in a somewhat awkward position. The facts of the matter (and I can provide you with a nearly complete transcript of all the messages that both he and I have posted publicly) are that Nick has made some unusual statements which he has been unable to support. He has also not wanted to admit that he was dead wrong on a couple of occasions, does not have a company that I can find (at least not one that's legally registered), and he has lied at >least< once! Basically he's made a fool of himself and is trying to make me the scapegoat by claiming that I've driven him out of the conference. [:( And you've fallen for it. [:( It's really too bad that he's decided to leave because he's unusually bright for his age and really has what it takes to be a very good assembly programmer -- if he can swallow some of his ego, listens to what people are telling him, gets better references, and reads the documentation for his tools!! [:/ Concerning my posting style, I apologize if you find me too blunt. I run a >real< business, not an afterschool hobby wannabe business (although I don't advertise it in every single message like Nick does)! On top of that I teach karate and tai chi in the evenings (and some afternoons) and am currently teaching programming to a small group of thirty- somethings on the weekends. In addition to all that, I do my own hobby programming and a small amount of in-house and "commercial" programming (ie., programming for profit), and I have a family and many friends. And I still have time to squeeze out the odd tutorial or background article from time to time in various echos (low-level hard-drive access, *PU addressing modes, low-level formatting, diagnostic procedure, file- access, and one or two others, I think). I really enjoy FidoNet but there are only so many hours in the day and I can't afford to spend a >lot< of time sitting on my butt reading and replying to echomail. [:) Sometimes I create these messages very quickly so they may not come across as "nice" as they were intended. [:) As you can see, I lead an active and satisfying life and I don't have any "need", as you and Nick put it, to put people down. Again, I'm sorry if you've found me to be insulting, but I assure you that I'm here to discuss and to learn, not to aggravate people or make them feel stupid. If you ever feel that I'm insulting the best way to address the situation would be to simply >tell< me how you feel. [:) For example, JamesV has made it clear that rather than criticize those who post in non-assembly languages, that the point might be better made by converting such code into assembly and re-posting on behalf of the author. Sounds reasonable to me so I'm giving it a shot and we'll see how it turns out. -> I'm still waiting for Ian to be pulled into line. Why wait? What are you waiting for? If you feel that my behaviour is not appropriate or conducive to intelligent discussion then >let me knowmy< input! [;D This is not the [Ian&Nick] conference so I invite any further discussion or comments (from anyone!) via NetMail. Take care and TTYL. ** End rush-hour traffic -- legalize vehicular weaponry now! --- PCBoard (R) v15.3/M 5 * Origin: The GameBoard BBS-9056893982/9409-BurlingtonONCA (1:244/506) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 145 ASSEMBLY LANG. Ref: E4H00022Date: 04/11/97 From: DAY BROWN Time: 06:45pm \/To: DENIS BOYLES (Read 4 times) Subj: Screen Mode Survey On 04-09-97 Denis Boyles wrote to Day Brown... DB> Well, I usually use 25 or 28/30 ... Tanx for the feedback Denis. me>... that replaces the foreign ASCII (Aooouu...) bitmaps with... DB> But isn't the use of HIGH-ASCII usually forbidden in these echos? Well, yes, But not always. I note that the Aooouu above were, in your reply- with the high bit stripped. So far as I can tell, *all* the inet newgroups do, but lots of the BBS netmail don't. And, part of what I am after is an enhancement for us DOS BBS QWK/netmail users. I ain't the only iconoclast who hates windoz and this is for us. ... OFFLINE 1.50 --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: TANSTAAFL BBS 717-432-0764 (1:270/615)