--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 145 ASSEMBLY LANG. Ref: E3S00004Date: 03/18/97 From: CHRISTOPHER HANKINSON Time: 03:30pm \/To: NICK COONS (Read 2 times) Subj: FTp well thanks anyway! THis is a personal Message? Can I telnet to your BBS>? Thanks Mind CRash Christopher Hankinson --- ProBoard v2.15 [Reg] * Origin: Gentle Breeze BBS Cliffside, N.C. (704)657-6898 (1:3667/7) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 145 ASSEMBLY LANG. Ref: E3S00005Date: 03/21/97 From: SYLVAIN LAUZON Time: 07:21pm \/To: GLEN MCNABB (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: Unknown function Hello Glen, > Generally, the transfer will be suspended.... Ok, i think have an idea how does it work. > multitask? Simple... The processor does one task for a few > clocks > then switches to the next task, it does the next task for a > few clocks > and switches to the next... and so on.... Task priorities So, a pure multitasking OS like OS/2 isn't a real one (?). If all it does is switches from a task to another. Having 2 CPU in one motherboard is real a multitasking system? > Dos itself has a byte used to indicate that it's in use. It's > called the "indos flag". This is one byte that is examined by When just writing to the console(TSR clock), might this indos flag be checked? I've read somewhere about INT 21h/0C and above only might check for this flag. Print at console is INT 21h/09 What is your thought? Bye Glen! --- * Origin: Silicon Palace {514}432-2953 Lafontaine, Qubec (1:242/100) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 145 ASSEMBLY LANG. Ref: E3S00006Date: 03/19/97 From: JANI LILLBERG Time: 06:43pm \/To: EDWARD HUNTER (Read 2 times) Subj: Need manual callback verification EH>complex, I have made this request at least twice before and have EH>had no reply from you. Ed Hunter I'm sure you get plenty of answers after this. You wrote this mail to international fidonet echo. Atleast 20 000 other SysOps and users have also seen your contact request. Regards, Jani Lillberg PS. Sorry moderator... --- GEcho 1.21/Pro+ * Origin: Bubi Box BBS // +358-19-720223 // 24h (2:220/300) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 145 ASSEMBLY LANG. Ref: E3S00007Date: 03/22/97 From: IAN MOOTE Time: 10:09am \/To: NICK COONS (Read 2 times) Subj: Extra Space. -> Ok, what are REP MOVSW instructions? Nick. You >have< to get an opcode reference! This is not optional! There are certain minimum tools that you require when doing any job. How the heck can you program on a *PU without knowing what its instructions are? -> Oh wow, is accessing XMS as simple as going through a window? Do you -> have any examples? In the Snippets collection archived by JamesV on The Circuit! Board BBS. (509)536-7260. If you're into examples, download 80xxx_*.zip. There will be seven or eight files. If you just want the XMS stuff, a quick check reveals that there seems to be something in the 80xxx_94.Zip file, but I don't seem to have the '95 and '96 files so I don't know what's in either of those. There's lots of other examples in the Snippets as well. In fact, it's nearlly >all< examples. -> > If your using a EGA/VGA card, why bother with B800:whatever? These -> > cards also have memory in A000:0000 to FFFF that is unused during -> > the CGA "type" video displays. A full 64k to play with that most -> > memory managers don't touch. (unless told to) -> I thought that memory between 640k and 1 meg was the upper memory area -> where TSR's and devices that were loaded high would be? -> Nick Coons -> Dynamic Computer Systems Well, we call it the Upper Memory area now-a-days, but technically this is the Bios Extension area, a place within the addressable memory area where Extension Bios' can install themselven. ** Disliking the truth doesn't make it any less true. --- PCBoard (R) v15.3/M 5 * Origin: The GameBoard BBS - 9056893982/9409 - BurlingtonONCANADA (1:244/506) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 145 ASSEMBLY LANG. Ref: E3S00008Date: 03/22/97 From: IAN MOOTE Time: 10:09am \/To: KEVIN BARROW (Read 2 times) Subj: File access through Dos. -> no (sic), What (sic) I mean, Is (sic) I want a program that uses the -> interuptz (sic) to open/write/read the filez (sic), What (sic) I want -> is to be able to "read" the source and learn how to do it, the way -> other ppl (sic) do it, IE (sic) I learn best by example, as most ppl -> (sic), Actually, that's not true. I teach assembly language (among other things) locally and I hear this a lot: "Can't you just write the program and let me see how it's done?" I've tried this and it just doesn't work; all you get is a bunch of students memorizing the teacher's code. During the tests you get back all the code that you've shown them that month, and when they fail the exam all you hear is, "but we didn't cover that program in class". On the other hand, teach how things work and how they relate to each other and your students will at least >try< to write the program. In short, "most people" do not learn best simply by example. These so- called "most people" have intelligence and learn best by understanding the princicples of what's going on, not by simply copying what others are doing. Take care. ** Disneyland: A people trap operated by a Mouse. --- PCBoard (R) v15.3/M 5 * Origin: The GameBoard BBS - 9056893982/9409 - BurlingtonONCANADA (1:244/506) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 145 ASSEMBLY LANG. Ref: E3S00009Date: 03/22/97 From: IAN MOOTE Time: 10:09am \/To: NICK COONS (Read 2 times) Subj: Logical and Bitwise opera -> Why do you keep saying that? I'm not confused and I'm not -> midunderstanding this subject. Yes you are and yes you are. -> The examples I gave were correct and accurate to show the difference -> between the two term "bitwise" and "logical." ... in the Basic programming language. Assembly language, as we >all< keep repeating over and over and over, makes no such distinction. -> If I'm wrong, I'll gladly admit it No you won't, you're not that kind of guy. -> But in this case I am not wrong. -> -> Nick Coons -> Dynamic Computer Systems Yes you are. ** Diving: another great reason to wear that nifty rubber suit. --- PCBoard (R) v15.3/M 5 * Origin: The GameBoard BBS - 9056893982/9409 - BurlingtonONCANADA (1:244/506) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 145 ASSEMBLY LANG. Ref: E3S00010Date: 03/21/97 From: PAUL CHAMBERLAIN Time: 11:21pm \/To: ERIK TERPSTRA (Read 2 times) Subj: LINEAR ADDRESSING FOR S3 Hi Erik, just tried your freeware linear addressing code sample for the s3 video chipset. and it's works very nice. my setup i used to get it working was: 6x86 p166+, 32mb ram, s3 trio64 v+ 4mb ram running in Unreal mode ie. gs,fs = 4gb two things though: 1 after running windows i get a general protection whenever i write to the video memory ie: si = source memory di = 0x03000000h fs:lodsd fs:stosd ---- gpf occurs here ect.. in fact it's not only windows but some games that use the dos4gw extender. one other way for it to work again is if i run a program that may use xms. what would be the cure - setting a cetain vga/s3 register? before running windows it works fine. 2 i would like to use mode 0x0117 1024x768 64k colours currently i can only get half the screen filled. If i need to do page switching what would you sugest. . . thanks for your help.. anyone who had more success than me are wellcome to help. ... Win95 causes deafness and hair loss in laboratory rats. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 [NR] --- FLAME v1.1 * Origin: 500cc: NSW's Largest BBS & $2/Hr Internet (02)9557-0077 3:712/218) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 145 ASSEMBLY LANG. Ref: E3S00011Date: 03/23/97 From: ERIC NADEAU Time: 12:08am \/To: NICK COONS (Read 2 times) Subj: Extra Space. Hi Nick! 20-Mar-97 02:51:00, Nick Coons wrote to Eric Nadeau Subject: Extra Space. >> Couldn't you just allocate some memory and use that? NC> How will I know if memory is free to allocate? Try to allocate FFFF paragraphs. Then, the carry flag will be set and BX will contain the number of paragraphs that are free. A paragraph is 16 bytes... Nado/Trimaje - Running under Linux ... Win95: Proof that you can fool most of the people, some of the time. ___ NadoTag 1.51 --- Terminate 4.00 * Origin: Eric Nadeau, Aylmer/Qubec (1:243/68.18) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 145 ASSEMBLY LANG. Ref: E3T00000Date: 03/15/97 From: JAN WAGEMAKERS Time: 01:47pm \/To: IAN MOOTE (Read 2 times) Subj: searching Docu - INT 13h Hello Ian, Ian Moote wrote to Christian Marg : IM> Yeah, I gots some. What do you want to know? Interrupt 13h is much IM> more reliable and convenient -- any reason why you can't use it? May I interrupt your conversation to give my opinion on this? ;-) Yes, INT 13h is very easy to use when you want to read/write sectors from a disk or HD. But,... INT 13h is slow, and with INT 13h, you can not read non-standard formats. So, if you want to get the maximum out of your hard-disk or floppy-controller it is sometimes necessary to call the floppy or hard-disk controller directly. Have a nice day, Ian. - Jan Wagemakers - .!. Format your disks with 2M. Copy them with dKopie. --- Terminate 4.00/Pro * Origin: - Belgi/Belgium - Internet : JanW@dma.be (2:292/8133.23) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 145 ASSEMBLY LANG. Ref: E3T00001Date: 03/22/97 From: DENIS BOYLES Time: 03:40pm \/To: PHIL QUINTON (Read 2 times) Subj: Clock Cycles PQ>Can someone point me to some text that has a list of PQ>instruction clock cycles for x86 chips, 286 -> Pentium. You can try INTEL.DOC which covers the x86 -> x486 line of chips. Also you might try OPCODE.LST included in Ralf Browns' Interrupt listings. Which ou'll find as INTERxxy.ZIP, where XX is the version, and Y is the lettered archive. Cheers, Denis Boyles * OLX 2.1 TD * hAS ANYONE SEEN MY cAPSLOCK KEY? --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: Frog Hollow Port Moody BC 604-469-0264/0284 (1:153/290)