--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 108 STAR TREK Ref: EAM00004 Date: 06/17/97 From: OWEN E. OULTON Time: 06:04pm \/To: PATRICK SZALAPSKI (Read 4 times) Subj: Ohbearzhonwahh PS> I just caught a listing of a 1989 movie with Rene Auberjonois. Anyone PS> know anything about this, and whether it pointed him toward his PS> television career? Well, with only a date, it's pretty difficult to know what movie you're talking about. However, your other question is easy to answer. No. RA already had a firmly established TV career. He played Clayton Endicott III in the comdey series Benson back in the mid 1980's. RA's first real movie role, BTW, was M*A*S*H way back in 1970, when he played Father "Dago Red" Mulcahy. Yet another M*A*S*H alumnus. CFN, O --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Pandora's Box, Ottawa, Ont. 613-829-1209 (1:243/45) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 108 STAR TREK Ref: EAM00005 Date: 06/17/97 From: OWEN E. OULTON Time: 06:07pm \/To: PATRICK SZALAPSKI (Read 4 times) Subj: The Next Movie OEO>The only confirmed details are: OEO>All the cast is returning. Stewart will be paid $12 million, Spiner will OEO>recieve $5 million. Frakes will direct. The script is currently being OEO>written. Release date will likely be US Thanksgiving 1998. PS> Do we know anything about minor characters (Guinan, Ens. Reager, Mott, PS> etc.), and will there be anything with DS9, such as the Defiant's PS> appearance in FC? Pat, read the line at the top of the screen. One further detail has been confirmed, that Michael Piller is writing the script, but other than that, no, I *DON'T* know anything, and neither does anyone else outside of ParaMount. There are rumours, including a Q appearance, but most of them are even stupider than usual. CFN, O --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Pandora's Box, Ottawa, Ont. 613-829-1209 (1:243/45) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 108 STAR TREK Ref: EAM00006 Date: 06/13/97 From: BRIAN DAVIS Time: 05:37pm \/To: MICHAEL MAREK (Read 4 times) Subj: Bikinis In Space -=> Quoting Michael Marek to Rosemary Ighel <=- MM>> Your, uh, infatuation with Worf goes back some years. What do you MM> High Council, or Gowron to be precise. It doesn't ring true to me, MM> the way Gowron picks on your favorite two-spined alien. (If he has two MM> backbones, does he......? Never mind.) In point of fact, yes, he does. Or at least, Klingons in general are known for having anatomical redundancies. In the novel _Kahless_ specific mention is made of the TNG episode where Worf's back was broken. I don't remember the details of the episode (and I'm skeptical of novel-based info), but it appears this very redundancy was what enabled him to walk again.... ------- Brian Davis - qvad@cdc.net Star Trek: Voyager Co-Modasaurus and NonTreknicalKlingon "bImejDI' reH betleHlIj yItlhap" ... BORG! UHH! GOOD GOD! WHAT IS IT GOOD FOR? --- Blue Wave/OS2 v2.30 [NR] * Origin: River Canyon Rd. BBS Chattanooga, Tn (1:362/627) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 108 STAR TREK Ref: EAM00007 Date: 06/14/97 From: AL KAISER Time: 07:13pm \/To: ALL (Read 4 times) Subj: Convention Listings * Crossposted from: Babylon5 These conventions should be of interest to people In New England reading these echos! RebelCon 1997 August 8-10 1997 Holiday Inn, Taunton, Ma. Featuring Joe Michael Straczinski - Creator, writer, exec producer, Babylon 5 John Flinn III - Director of Photography and director, Babylon 5 Duncan Regehr - Shaka'ar, DS9, star of Wizards & Warriors, Zorro Richard Hatch - Appolo of Battlestar Galactica Also: Peter David - Star Trek Author - B5 Screenwriter & Co Creator Space Cases John Peel - Author of Str Trek, Dr Who, and Quantum Leap Novels Bob Eggleton - Twice winner Hugo Awards for Best Professional Artis Mojo - Special effect animator of Foundation Immaging Christian Ready - Astronomer for the Hubble Space Telescope Arne Starr - Comic Book Inker and film previewer Cortlandt Hull - FIlm Historian, Curator of the Witchs' Dungeon Museum Jeane Cavelos - Babylon 5 Author Tentatively confirmed: Hal Clement Jeffrey Carver Michel Burstein Email info at rebelcon@aol.com or Marje824@aol.com or call 1-800-99REBEL 10 AM to 9 PM EST, web site at www.cs.umb.edu/~jwentze/mary Prices: Full Weekend Present to July 15 $ 40.00 Adults $ 22.00 Children At the door $ 50.00 Adults $ 25.00 Children Daily Rates Present to July 15 $ 25.00 Adults $ 15.00 Children At the door $ 30.00 Adults $ 17.00 Children Make check payable to World End Productions and mail to, 10 Rankin Street, Worchester, MA 01605 --- United Fan Con VII Springfield Marriot Springfield Ma. Reservations (413) 781 1111 October 31 to November 2nd 1997 Friday 3 PM to 1230 AM Saturday 10 AM to 2 AM Sunday 10 AM to 6 PM Featuring Roxann Dawson - B'Elanna Tores, Star Trek Voyager Jason Carter - Marcus Cole, Babylon 5 Geoffrey Beevers - The Master in Keep of Traken, Dr. WHO Caroline John - Liz Shaw, Dr. Who All guests will be appearing and signing autographs Saturday and Sunday Hotel Reservations call (414) 781-711 and mention United Fan Con to get special rates. Membership Rates: Now thru 7/31/97 8/1/97 - 10/1/97 Reserve Weekend Tickets $ 40.00 $ 45.00 Weekend Tickets $ 30.00 $ 35.00 Single Day (Sat/Sun) $ 18.00 $ 20.00 Friday only $ 8.00 8 8.00 Saturday banquet additional $ 27.00 More info, (SASE) or Ticket to: United Fan Con VII, 500 Monroe Tpke, Monroe, CT 06468 For info Call (617) 986-TREK or Email to UFANCON@aol.con Web site: http:\\www.pcnet.com/~alanr/ufc.html ... Welcome to Sickbay, take a number. Ŀ Al Kaiser E-Mail: alk@ct1.nai.net Packet: N1API @N1API.USA.NA ___ Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 --- Renegade v5-11 Exp * Origin: Short Circuit BBS (203) 639-0555 for a REAL CHARGE (1:141/730) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 108 STAR TREK Ref: EAM00008 Date: 06/15/97 From: STAR HAWK Time: 03:53pm \/To: JAY P. HAILEY (Read 4 times) Subj: More about Trek Books Heard over subspace channel six from Jay P. Hailey: [> Star Hawk [> I've read Weber's latest Harrington and he [> drops her in the deep end... very deep! He's about to [> complicate her love life beyond reason; the ship she's [> on is shot out of action [title: IN ENEMY HANDS]; Nimitz [> gets it in the tail; the treecats in general are just [> about ready to drop their cover as an "un"intellegent [> species; and, oh, yes... she's going to be dead to the [> universe at large for a while. That enough for you? [> Jay P. Hailey [> I just read "Honor Among Enemies", which [> I was told was the most recent book. There is no mention [> what so ever of Honor Harrington being "dead to the [> universe" for any time. I imagine that upon return to [> manticore, she'll either wind up Fleet Admiral Mary Sue [> or Heavy-Political-Operator Mary Sue. IN ENEMY HANDS is the book that follows HONOR AMONG ENEMIES, which takes place after Samantha has given birth to the kits [four of them; two male, two female]; it should be hitting the stores in hardcover in August. [I got an uncorrected proof copy at a con charity auction; somebody else outbid me for the manuscript... Weber brought both of them for the auction.] As for what happens when she returns to the Star Kingdom and/or Grayson... well, she'll have an effect, but it may not be what you expect. [> Jay P. Hailey [> The Seafort books by David Feintuch are [> an even more blatant rip off of Horatio Hornblower. Never read those... [> Jay P. Hailey [> On the one hand Honor Harrington is [> beautiful, rich, physically powerful, influential, a [> master martial artist, a crack shot and the most talented [> tactical starship commander in the whole fleet. She has [> few if any character defects to balance these. She will have major personal problems in the future... she's in bad shape by the time ...HANDS ends, and Nimitz isn't much better off. Unlike Kirk, Honor suffers serious injuries that won't be fixed for the next book or two. And she does have flaws, they just haven't been stressed yet. [> Jay P. Hailey [> Nicholas Seafort OTOH is filled with [> absolutely dreary self hatred that is really unearned. Hmmm... maybe it's just as well that I didn't... [> Jay P. Hailey [> By contrast, Horatio Hornblower was not [> the physically best at anything some commanders in the [> fleet were probably better tacticians. HH had the talent [> of being in the right place at the right time with a [> creative idea under pressure. HH suffered from a classic [> "Peter Pan" syndrome. He takes himself too seriously and [> honestly doesn't believe that he deserves the accolades [> he recieves right at first. Much like Honor herself. [> Jay P. Hailey [> This relates to Trek... (Honestly, Mr. [> Moderator!) When constructing Star Trek GR evidently [> went to Forrester for inspiration. Captain Pike was [> supposed to be a character driven nearly to distraction [> because he cared too much about his crew and felt it too [> keenly when things went badly. No other Trek Captain has [> seriously talked about retiring becuase he was "tired of [> deciding who lives and who dies". I agree with you that Pike would have been a more interesting character to follow, even though Kirk had occasional bouts of internal doubt. [> Jay P. Hailey [> In my own Trek stories I am careful to [> keep my Captain character from being the best at any [> given thing, because that's what the CREW is for. My [> Captain is just good enough to get by, and occasionally [> has flashes of brilliance. It makes for a better story [> IMHO. This time Honor has nothing to pull out at the last minute; nothing to keep her from being taken to where the Peeps plan to execute her... nothing in her power to act in any way. Star Hawk, the EchoTrickster --- MacWoof Eval:23Dec93 * Origin: From TSS Thunderhawk via DS Station Hawk Haven (1:362/708.6) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 108 STAR TREK Ref: EAM00009 Date: 06/13/97 From: MICHAEL MAREK Time: 07:06am \/To: CHRISTOPHER KAUFIN (Read 4 times) Subj: Scorpion >> It kind of reminds me of >> Time's Arrow, which gave us aliens killing people for no reason that was >> ever explained. CK> In Time's CK> Arrow it was explained why they aliens were killing humans, I could CK> plainly see that they were using the humans for a food source. Obviously humans were a source of food. Why did they have to go into a parallel dimension in order to feed? Seems very impractical to me. As I said, Star Trek is at its best when we come to really understand the "bad guys." Often they don't turn out to be so bad. A more "star Trek" resolution for Time's Arrow would be for Picard and Company to get into communications with the "bad guys" have some kind of plot twist showing that they aren't just cardboard villains and a resolution that solves the villain's needs without killing sentients. --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: <<<<<<>>>>>> (1:205/1701.6) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 108 STAR TREK Ref: EAM00010 Date: 06/13/97 From: MICHAEL MAREK Time: 07:27am \/To: JAY P. HAILEY (Read 4 times) Subj: Scorpion JPH> In order to answer this, you'd have to define a couple JPH> of variables. How fast do the Borg travel? How common are JPH> intelligent species? I assume here that the Borg would write of JPH> non-sentient species as "irrelevant". JPH> These are elements that have never ever been specified in Trek. True, but indications have been given. Federation membership is well over 100 worlds now. Within the space explored by the Federation, there are certainly hundreds and more likely thousands of sentient species. That space is a relatively small part of the galaxy. As to speed, we know that some Starfleet people assimilated in the Battle of Wolf 359 have been in the Delta Quadrant for some time now. That means speeds far in excess of what Starfleet can manage. --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: <<<<<<>>>>>> (1:205/1701.6) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 108 STAR TREK Ref: EAM00011 Date: 06/13/97 From: MICHAEL MAREK Time: 07:35am \/To: EDWARD EADE II (Read 4 times) Subj: Scorpion MM>> The Doctor mentions that as the beginning of the assimilation MM>> process, the Borg take over red blood cells. Does that make sense? MM>> Why do the Borg want to control the distribution of oxygen to the MM>> tissues of the body they are assimilating? EEI> Seems like a fairly efficient way of getting the micro-devices EEI> through the body quickly? Traveling through the blood stream, yes. Attaching to red blood cells and presumably somehow modifying them? There's not much to modify in a red blood cell. White Blood Cells would make more sense, since they would attack foreign material in the blood stream. --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: <<<<<<>>>>>> (1:205/1701.6) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 108 STAR TREK Ref: EAM00012 Date: 06/16/97 From: MICHAEL MAREK Time: 09:05pm \/To: OWEN E. OULTON (Read 4 times) Subj: The Next Movie OEO> The only confirmed details are: OEO> All the cast is returning. Stewart will be paid $12 million, Spiner will OEO> recieve $5 million. Frakes will direct. The script is currently being OEO> written. Release date will likely be US Thanksgiving 1998. Michael Pillar is writing the script, according to Cinescape. A report I saw on "the net" to days ago said that Frakes has a two year "first look" contract with Paramount, and that he has "the inside track" to direct the next Trek movie. --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: <<<<<<>>>>>> (1:205/1701.6) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 108 STAR TREK Ref: EAM00013 Date: 06/16/97 From: JAY P. HAILEY Time: 09:46am \/To: VICTORIA MACKEY (Read 4 times) Subj: Continuity VM> JPH> Trek is head and shoulders above any other TeeVee show in term VM> JPH> of internal consistency. VM>I cannot even begin to agree with this. Hmmmm. Thinking back on this, I realize that I was reacting from an old point of view. TOS was better in this department than any other show of it's day. Today, TOS is not a patch on many shows, but the only one I watch is Babylon 5. Still they do a pretty good job, all things considered. (Only fans are obsessive enough to notice these things) VM>This, however, is quite true. Not necessarily a good thing, either. VM>Victoria Aeron Mackey I try to keep a sense of balance between really liking the show and the concept and remembering that it's not really real. Sometimes I even succeed... Jay P. Hailey Chief Editor THE UNIVERSE: TREK * OLX 2.1 TD * Biology is destiny. =========================================================================== BBS: Tesla's Tower BBS Date: 06-16-97 (08:19) Number: 17 From: JAY P. HAILEY Refer#: 3079 To: CHARLES RADLEY Recvd: NO Subj: DC-Space Conf: (17) Space