--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 142 AUTO RACING Ref: DAL00000 Date: 06/14/96 From: MIKE SIEBERN Time: 05:40pm \/To: MAX LAKE (Read 6 times) Subj: No Competition?! Max Lake wrote in a message to Mickey Lightsey: ML> Petty didn't have the competetion like today ML> ML> Are you kidding? Yarborough, Baker, Allison, Pearson, ML> Jarrett, Issac, Parsons, Johnson, Roberts and Weatherly ML> aren't competition? - - - - - - - - - ->8 SNIP 8<- - - - - - - - - - - - - - ML> but then again today's cars are beeter ML> Made it a bit harder on the driver back then, wouldn't ML> it? Not to mention the use of coolant for the suits and power steering ... Crankin one of those "old" cars for 500 miles in the heat was a CHORE! -= Mike =- --- timEd 1.01 - A single fact can ruin a good argument. * Origin: Walden Pond - Angola, In - 219-665-8767 (1:236/13) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 142 AUTO RACING Ref: DAL00001 Date: 06/15/96 From: MICKEY LIGHTSEY Time: 04:20pm \/To: MAX LAKE (Read 6 times) Subj: #3 SUCKS! -> ML> Petty didn't have the competetion like today -> -> Are you kidding? Yarborough, Baker, Allison, Pearson, Jarrett, Issac, -> Parsons, Johnson, Roberts and Weatherly aren't competition? That is nothing like the stiff competition today, today about any driver in the race can win, back then only a few could compete with Petty.. -> ML> and they raced many more races, -> -> Including dirt. Todays kids would wet their pants if they had to run -> there. Not Ken Schrader, though he is cutting back.. -> ML> Petty never had the kind of moves Dale can make, -> -> 200 wins, 7 Winston Cups and he doesn't have "moves"? Get real. 200 wins because many more races and less competition, funny you see Earnhardt's famous moves and not Petty's in highlight films.. -> ML> but then again today's cars are beeter -> -> Made it a bit harder on the driver back then, wouldn't it? And especially for those who didn't have the money and support Petty had, another plus on his side...Dale for championship #8!! --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.10 * Origin: Tarheel Connection 90,000+ Files V.34 910-643-9570 (1:3654/9.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 142 AUTO RACING Ref: DAL00002 Date: 06/15/96 From: MICKEY LIGHTSEY Time: 04:22pm \/To: JOHN STEINMAN (Read 6 times) Subj: #3 -> -> Could there be a #9? -> -> ML> Amen! Would love to see a #9!! -> -> -> I would like to see Earnhardt get this #8 of his back so he can get o -> with racing as usuall. The #8 is kinda like the Daytona thing. Yes in a way but he has been trying to win the Daytona 500 a lot longer than championship #8 and I'm sure he'd be happy to never win it if he wins #8 then #9 the...:) --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.10 * Origin: Tarheel Connection 90,000+ Files V.34 910-643-9570 (1:3654/9.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 142 AUTO RACING Ref: DAL00003 Date: 06/16/96 From: JOHN STEINMAN Time: 12:20am \/To: DICK REICH (Read 6 times) Subj: Coca Cola 600 -=> Quoting Dick Reich to John Steinman <=- DR> Road course at Sears Point. Apparently he had some suspension part DR> come loose (a weld that partially tore??) after his agricultural DR> expedition going into turn 11. I believe NASCAR said sorry for the DR> trouble, here's your win and points, where's our $25,000?? DR> Looking it up - "Right rear shock bottoming out" "jack screw plate in DR> right front damaged". Not a "competition enhancing situation" - Kevin DR> Triplett of NASCAR, WC Scene, 5/9/96 I get the information off of www.nascar.com. Its not on there now,unless there is a way to get a back issue. It was on there as R. Wallace after his win, it was determined that the roof line was to low. I think it was like a quarter an inch. There where a bunch of other teams that also got fines for a illegal door support bar in one of the doors. It was allmost every team in Busch and Winston Cup series. Its been a few weeks so I might not have remembered it exactly the way it was described. Sorry but thats what it said. JAS ... Earnhardt's have the answere for Gordan --- Blue Wave/DOS v2.21 [NR] * Origin: The Snake Pit - (904) 276-1173 (1:112/2733) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 142 AUTO RACING Ref: DAL00004 Date: 06/16/96 From: JOHN STEINMAN Time: 12:25am \/To: BRIAN HOILMAN (Read 6 times) Subj: R. Wallace -=> Quoting Brian Hoilman to John Steinman <=- BH> I realize what you are saying is true. His roof was 3/16 of an inch BH> lower than they allowed. That part IS fact, I'm not disagreeing with BH> that at all. It's just that, for example, if the same thing had BH> happened with Earnhardt & I had posted something like that, I would BH> have caught hell from the moderator & everyone else in the echo who is BH> an Earnhardt fan. That was my whole point. It justs seems like it's ok BH> to put down on other drivers as long as it's not #3 and that's no BH> good. I wouldn't care if everyone put down on Rusty all the time as BH> far as that goes, if people were allowed to do the same about Dale. Thats ok Brian. I hope though that ya'll relize that, if I see or here of an illegal act in the Earnhardt team i'll report it and agree with it. In fact, Earnhardt was one of about 20 teams that where caught with the illegal door support a few weeks ago. I know sometimes I get on a band wagon in this echo when it comes to Earnhardt, but when the nascar officials say, you cheated, then i'll admit it. Putting down or harping on a driver for weeks (like some people do in here) is only an opinion. That gets old. But a fact reported from nascar is not an a opinion. Thats just like dale E. wrecking people. Every driver does it. Its just when dale e. does it it really gets noticed:) No hard feelings? :) JAS ... Earnhardt's have the answere for Gordan.. its Jr. --- Blue Wave/DOS v2.21 [NR] * Origin: The Snake Pit - (904) 276-1173 (1:112/2733) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 142 AUTO RACING Ref: DAL00005 Date: 06/16/96 From: JOHN STEINMAN Time: 12:32am \/To: BRIAN HOILMAN (Read 6 times) Subj: Coca Cola 600 -=> Quoting Brian Hoilman to JOHN STEINMAN <=- BH> The DID fine him $25,000.00 but they let him keep the points BH> & the win. Then you tell ME *I* need to find out more first?????. Yea your right there. My memory sucks on details. Just the ruff facts is about all I can handle this time of year. I own my own Landscaping Co. in Jax, Fl, and this time of year my mind is used up. I'll report better facts in winter,(hopefully) :) JAS ... Why won't this car turn to the right??? --- Blue Wave/DOS v2.21 [NR] * Origin: The Snake Pit - (904) 276-1173 (1:112/2733) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 142 AUTO RACING Ref: DAL00006 Date: 06/16/96 From: JOHN STEINMAN Time: 12:35am \/To: EDDIE KIPLINGER (Read 6 times) Subj: Gordan -=> Quoting EDDIE KIPLINGER to JOHN STEINMAN <=- -=> Quoting John Steinman to Eddie Kiplinger <=- EK> Hi John, EK> Did you enjoy the Dover race. EK> Did you check out the red wheels Mr. Gordon used on the last pit? EK> That must have really been his secret weapon. Tell me about the red wheels thing please. EK> Another thought that would promote competition for qualifying would be EK> to award bonus points for taking the pole. I'm in favor of that! EK> Qualifying has already at the ridiculous stage of having engines set EK> up just for qualifying and then changed out to put a different engine EK> in for the race. That's insane!!!! I think I would like the points for pole position also. Not real sure since Dale E. doesn't do real well there. I'm sure he would start doing better for points:) EK> As for Pocono, I'd have to go with Gordon as they had a great setup EK> for that track last year. After learning a hard lesson concerning EK> shifting Mr. Gordon should have a handle on this track. EK> Still got to watch out for that Craven kid. I expect to see him in EK> the winner's circle several times this year. Well its Saturday night and your pick for Gordan is looking good since he got the pole. I would like to see Craven get a win. I like to see M Martin at Pocono though. Maybe Gordan will chock again in the shifting again this year. By the time you see this we'll know the answere. JAS ... Earnhardt's have the answere for Gordan.. its Jr. --- Blue Wave/DOS v2.21 [NR] * Origin: The Snake Pit - (904) 276-1173 (1:112/2733) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 142 AUTO RACING Ref: DAL00007 Date: 06/16/96 From: JOHN STEINMAN Time: 12:45am \/To: DOUG RAPSON (Read 6 times) Subj: who was it? -=> Quoting Doug Rapson to John Steinman <=- DR> True enough... Kinda bored this weekend. No Winston Cup action... DR> `Course next weekend, I'm headed off to Pocono. My own little B-day DR> present to me ! Happy Birthday to you.... so on so on..... JAS ... Why won't this car turn to the right??? --- Blue Wave/DOS v2.21 [NR] * Origin: The Snake Pit - (904) 276-1173 (1:112/2733) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 142 AUTO RACING Ref: DAL00008 Date: 06/16/96 From: JOHN STEINMAN Time: 12:46am \/To: DENNIS WETHERHOLD JR. (Read 6 times) Subj: Re: # 3 -=> Quoting Dennis Wetherhold Jr. to Mickey Lightsey <=- DWJ> Well Jarrett has as good a chance as any of those others you DWJ> seem to think will get it. Not to mention I hope Earnhardt DWJ> get's the championship this year. Maybe I won't have to DWJ> see him then next year. Don't you think someone else should DWJ> win once in a while. Earnhardt will be in the top 5 of points for a handfull of years still:) No matter how many he wins. I think who ever has the most points should win. JAS ... There ain't nothing finer than watchin Earnhardt in Carolina.... --- Blue Wave/DOS v2.21 [NR] * Origin: The Snake Pit - (904) 276-1173 (1:112/2733) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 142 AUTO RACING Ref: DAL00009 Date: 06/16/96 From: JACK HANNAH Time: 11:46am \/To: JIM NOWAK (Read 6 times) Subj: Rusty Wallace RE: Rusty Wallace BY: Jim Nowak to John Steinman on Wed Jun 12 1996 19:33:28 > Wallace will be in front of Earnhardt when the season is over. > > > > !!!!!! The Holler BBS !!!!!! > !! !! !! Bakersville, North Carolina !! !! ! > !! !!!!!! 1-704-688-2472 !! !!!!! > !! !! 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