--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 140 SHORT WAVE Ref: DFL00003 Date: 11/13/96 From: DAVID ONLEY Time: 12:49am \/To: ALL (Read 4 times) Subj: Woodside dx trip G'day all I've been seeing a heap of good MW dx loggings here over the past few weeks and want to know what you guys are doing with your beverage antennas. A personal Email to donley@vds.com.au would be fine. Last weekend I tried various forms and lengths of beverage. The trip to Woodside about 250km east of Melbourne was done in a 9x9 tent in the middle of a dried up lake not far from the actual coastline & Ninety Mile beach. For those interested 38.28S 146.53E. We were armed with 4 - 12 volt car batteries and a solar panel for charging during the day. We used the Drake R7 & SPR4 to listen on. Our site was in the shadows of the huge VLF Omega Navigational station which although broadcasting at around 13 kHz caused very few problems for us.. Maybe just the odd beep. 3 nights into the trip... the dried lake become a swamp & we had frogs joining us around the SPR4 & Drake R7. Tents are great to dx in with deck chairs & card tables when the weather is fine.. but when the wind picks up & horizontal rain hits.. it aint fun. The first two nights we tried 4 beverages over 450m in length at 45,70, 90 & 110 degrees. The aim of our DXpedition was to try the site for Nth Americans & the Caribbean. These antennas worked fairly well and we heard some interesting stations through central USA but nothing much from the Caribbean. Even Antigua on 1610 was pretty miserable. The antennas were put out on wooden tomato stakes about 2.5m high. It was quite a job getting them straight.. especially with one eye on the grass for Tiger snakes.. We saw a couple..The knee high rubber boots did little to comfort. An interesting discovery.. quite by accident too was that when the antenna was raised onto the tomato stakes.. groundwave signals increased & so did noise levels.. And when the dx started coming in later.. it made no difference whether the antenna was on poles or along the ground.. The lesson learnt was that running the antenna along the ground cuts noise & groundwave signals. I'm not sure if the soil or terrain had a big impact.. but it worked. An other interesting observation was that in all my years of putting bevs out.. I had never really got the nulling with termination to work too well.. This time however by putting the ENTIRE antenna on poles and using a variable pot.. screwy null's started happening all over the band.. In fact we were nearly able to wipe out a local 1242 3TR Traralgon just 80km away. Running the antenna along the ground we were unable to null anything.. The variable pot was useless.. Oh & we used UHF hand helds to check.. and I'm going to invest in a trail bike just for dx drips.. Quick getaways from the snakes and dx colleagues into Baked Beans. Finally we get down to what length is best??? I've noticed that a lot of DXers get good results from just 250 - 400 metre lengths. On our final two nights we whacked out 870m on poles & had some sensational dx. In fact I'll go so far as to say that the Nth American stations we logged were the best EVER in Victoria. Conditions were similar to what the guys in Queensland & New South Wales hear. Victoria is not the best site for yanks. OK.. Dxing guru's.. what have you noticed on trips away? Is there much difference between 500 & 1000 metres? Would 1500 to 2000 metres make any significant difference? Is an S point worth the effort? Would appreciate some feedback. 73 Dave Onley Just a few loggings. No details at this stage & heaps more to go through on tapes. Woodside Beach, Victoria AUSTRALIA. November 1 - 5 1996 590 0941 KSSK Honolulu. HI. 640 1334 KFI Los Angeles CA. 660 0925 KTNN Window Rock AZ. 670 0827 WMAQ Chicago IL. 670 0845 KBOI Boise ID. 670 0915 Unid. Unsure if Claremont is on here yet. heard mentions of VA. 680 0843 KNBR San Francisco. CA. 690 0948 KQMQ Honolulu HI. 730 0955 CKLG Vancouver BC. 740 1053 KTRH Houston TX. 750 0823 WSB Atlanta GA. 750 0910 KXL Portland OR. 760 1102 KFMB San Diego CA. 770 1110 KKOB Albequerque NM. 780 1049 KKOH Reno NV. 790 1219 KABC Los Angles CA. 810 1113 KGO San Francisco CA. 840 0905 WHAS Louisville KY. 840 0915 KVEG Las Vegas NV. 850 1002 KOA Denver. CO. 860 1010 KTRB Modesto CA. 860 1120 Unid C/W 870 0840 KAIM Honolulu HI 880 1215 KRVN Lexington NE. 891 0820 Lautoka Fiji 910 0954 KNEW San Francisco CA. 930 0852 Talk + MOR, Jazz 930 1213 KKHJ Los Angeles CA. 930 1145 WKY Oklahoma City 940 0946 KFRE Fresno CA 940 1220 XEQ Mexico 990 1121 Unid SS under Aussie (Australian allocation) 1020 0847 KTNQ Los Angeles CA. 1030 0950 KCTA Corpus Christi. TX. 1030 0950 KTWO Casper WY. 1030 0850 WBZ Boston MA. 1040 1022 CKST Vancouver BC. 1040 1027 WHO De Moines IA 1060 1004 CKMX Calgary AB. 1070 1025 KNX Los Angeles CA. 1100 0915 KFAX San Francisco CA. 1110 1005 KFAB Omaha NE. 1110 1013 KRLA Pasadena CA. 1120 1310 KPNW Eugene OR. 1120 0900 KMOX St Louis MN. 1130 1105 CKWX Vancouver BC. 1130 1019 KWKH Shreveport LA. 1160 1237 KSL Salt Lake City UT. 1180 1010 KERI Wasco CA. 1180 1012 R.Marti Marathon FL. 1190 1006 KGBS Dallas TX. 1190 1335 KEX Portland OR. 1200 1012 WOAI San Antonio TX. 1200 1023 CKDA Victoria BC. 1220 0820 XEB Mexico. 1296 1940 BBC Orfordness UK. 1300 0849 CJME Regina SK. 1310 0816 KDIA Oakland CA. 1320 0855 KCTC Sacremento CA. 1320 0814 XECMQ Mexico City. 1380 1323 KTOM Salinas CA 1386 1953 V.O. Kenya 1390 0854 KGER Long Beach CA. 1395 2002 DYCH Legaspi Village. Philippines 1400 0940 Tent: KVTO Berkeley CA. 1410 0838 CFUN Vancouver BC. 1410 1256 XEKB Guadalajara Mexico. 1420 0944 KCCN Honolulu HI. 1460 0820 KULA Maunawili HI 1470 0845 CJVB Vancouver BC. Ethnic program in possibly CC 1470 1019 XERCN Tijuana Mexico. 1480 0818 KWIZ Santa Ana CA. 1500 0810 KSTP St Paul MN. 1510 0839 KGA Spokane WA. 1512 2001 DYAB Manila Philippines. 1520 0804 KOMA Oklahoma City OK. 1521 1830 Duba ARS. 1560 1232 XEFAJ Mexico City. R.Consentida 1570 0740 Unid w/oldies possibly CKTA ? 1570 1235 XERF Ciudad Acuna MX. 1580 0720 KCWW Tempe AZ. 1580 0915 KBLA Santa Monica CA. 1590 1234 XEVOJ Mexico. 1611 1915 Vatican. 1630 1134 KXBT Vallejo CA. 1650 0956 Unid w/ Middle Eastern tunes 1660 1126 WJDM Elizabeth NJ. 1680 1237 UNID. SS ballads & very much a Mexican format ??? --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: The Radio Shack BBS, Melbourne, 61-3-9532-5737 (3:635/725) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 140 SHORT WAVE Ref: DFL00004 Date: 11/10/96 From: MICHAEL BERRY Time: 01:51am \/To: ROBERT MITCHELL (Read 4 times) Subj: Re: sw receivers ---> G'Day Bob .!. RM> Not much to hear on LW except airport beacon on 362 kc which is the RM> same as the 120.900 output. There are a few others. RM> Edinburgh 311 kc RM> Modbury 377. Not a real listening area for me tho' some people DX RM> these things !!! I seem to recall reading some where that on low wave it is possible to hear approaching lightening , if I remember correctly the lightening caused a kind of whistling tone , have you heard of this ? RM> not follow the footy but listened to Radio Australia for news RM> from home. Had very good signals in the AM on 5995 6020 11780 ?? RM> 9580 13???? Can't remember them all but had the in my IC745 RM> memories. I usually try for the BBC for a different slant on World news and Australian news in particular. The difference is often very noticeable !! How well were you able to contact OZ ? I listen in on the ham bands from time to time , but not much seems to be going on ! a different matter in the States I suppose , many more operators !! RM> Page 73 is the one for the receiver. $349 though I got the one RM> without the cassette player. Would be handy but at the time I RM> went for the cheaper option. It is a good radio. If you get Radio Now I'm with you I thought you mentioned some thing else before . Actually I am fantasizing over the Sangean ATS-909 on the same page . I'd rather a portable than a desk top so I could lug it around with me and not be tied down to a fixed spot . RM> & Comms you may find a used one or perhaps one of the trading RM> groups may be a good try. Not too keen on second hand gear , seems most hobbyists know more than the design engineers and like to have a go at tweaking up a few more "S" points !!! OK Bob cop u later 73's De .\\ichael . -... -.-. . ... Hams do it with frequency , but how frequently ? ... --- Blue Wave/Max v2.12 [NR] * Origin: Computer Connection (+618) 8326 2388 (3:800/809.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 140 SHORT WAVE Ref: DFL00005 Date: 11/16/96 From: J.J. HITT Time: 08:41pm \/To: ROBERT FORTUNE (Read 4 times) Subj: Master DXing On Nov 11 12:02 96, Robert Fortune of 1:2619/229 wrote: RF> I'm curious about something and would appreciate some RF> feedback. What is the furthest SW broadcast you've ever RF> heard and where were you located at the time, and what SW RF> radio equipment (radio, antenna, etc..) were you using? TIA The FURTHEST station I've received has to be Radio Australia, simply because it's on the other side of the planet from me. Any further away would have to be from space... My best DX was probably a 300 watt Brazilian. Four more years! - Live with it! --- Msgedsq 2.2e * Origin: Saint Elmo's Fire Hydrant (Houston) (1:106/9788.2) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 140 SHORT WAVE Ref: DFM00000 Date: 11/16/96 From: ART PREIS Time: 10:12pm \/To: ALL (Read 4 times) Subj: Radio Netherlands R A D I O N E T H E R L A N D S - THE DUTCH INTERNATIONAL SERVICE H F - T R A N S M I S S I O N S C H E D U L E Period from: 27/10/96 to: 30/03/97 Language Time(UTC) Area served Stn/kHz Meterb. ----------- --------- -------------------- ------- ------ Caribean 0930-1025 d Surinam B 6020 49 2130-2225 d Surinam B 6030 49 Dutch 0130-0225 d Central America B 6020 49 d North America centr. B 6165 49 d South America west B 15315 19 0330-0425 d East Africa M 9860 31 d Middle East M 11655 25 0530-0625 d North America west B 5995 49 d North America west B 6165 49 0630-0725 d N.Zealand/Australia B 9720 31 d N.Zealand/Australia B 11660 25 d West Europe O 7240 41 d Southast Europe F 7130 41 0630-0855 d South Europe F 6020 49 d Southeast Europe F 9895 31 0630-1725 d West Europe F 5955 49 0730-1725 d Southwest Europe F 9895 31 0900-1255 d Southwest Europe F 11895 25 1030-1125 d N.Zealand/Australia B 9720 31 d N.Zealand/Australia B 9820 31 d Southeast Asia M 17580 16 d East Asia M 21480 13 1100-1255 d Southeast Europe F 13770 22 1330-1425 d West Australia F 13770 22 d S. Asia & W.Austral. P 5930 49 d East& southeast Asia P 7375 41 1430-1525 d S. Asia & W.Austral. A 7365 41 d South Asia F 13770 22 1600-1725 d South Europe F 6015 49 d Southeast Europe S 5835 49 1630-1725 d Europe X 1440 MW # d Southern Africa M 6020 49 d East Africa & Europe M 11655 25 1730-1825 d West Africa B 17605 16 d Centr.& West Africa B 21590 13 d Northwest Africa F 6015 49 d East Africa F 9895 31 2030-2125 d West Africa B 11655 25 # d West Africa B 17605 16 * d West Africa B 15315 19 s North & South America B 15550 19 d Northwest Africa F 6020 49 d West Europe X 1440 MW d Southern Africa M 6015 49 d Centr.& West Africa M 9860 31 # d Centr.& West Africa M 11655 25 * 2130-2225 d North America east B 11730 25 d South America south B 15315 19 d Northwest Africa F 6020 49 2330-0025 d Southeast Asia M 7285 41 d Southeast Asia M 9590 31 d East Asia P 12065 25 Language Time(UTC) Area served Stn/kHz Meterb. ----------- --------- -------------------- ------- ------ English 0030-0225 d South Asia A 7305 41 d South Asia T 5905 49 0130-0325 d South Asia M 9860 31 d South Asia M 11655 25 0430-0525 d North America west B 5995 49 d North America west B 6165 49 0730-0825 d N.Zealand/Australia B 11895 25 0730-1025 d N.Zealand/Australia B 9830 31 0830-0925 d N.Zealand/Australia I 13700 22 0830-1025 d N.Zealand/Australia B 5965 49 0930-1125 d East& southeast Asia I 9810 31 d Far East & East Asia P 7260 41 1130-1325 d Central & W. Europe J 6045 49 d West Europe N 7190 41 1330-1525 d South Asia F 13700 22 1330-1525 d South Asia M 9895 31 d South & East Asia M 15585 19 1530-1625 d South Asia M 9895 31 d South Asia & East Asia M 12090 25 1730-2025 d Central & West Africa Z 11655 25 d Southern Africa M 6020 49 d East Africa M 9605 31 1830-2025 d West Africa B 15315 19 d Centr.& West Africa B 17605 16 2130-2325 d West Europe X 1440 MW 2330-0125 d North America east B 6020 49 d North America centr. B 6165 49 Indonesian 1130-1225 d Indonesia T 15585 19 1130-1325 d Indonesia M 15500 19 d Indonesia M 17580 16 d Indonesia P 7375 41 1230-1325 d Indonesia T 12005 25 2130-2325 d Indonesia M 7285 41 d Indonesia M 9590 31 Spanish 0030-0125 d South America south M 9895 31 0230-0425 d Mexico B 6020 49 d Central America B 6165 49 d South America B 9895 31 1130-1155 d South America (nw) B 6020 49 d South America (nw) B 9715 31 1200-1225 d Central America B 6020 49 d Central America B 9715 31 2230-0125 d South America south B 15315 19 2230-2325 d South America north B 11730 25 d Caribbean Area F 6020 49 2330-0025 d South America north F 6190 49 Non Daily Transmissions: Language Time(UTC) Area served Stn/kHz Meterb. ----------- --------- -------------------- ------- ------ For UN Forces 0930-1100 a Southeast Europe F 7190 41 in Bosnia-H. a Southeast Europe F 9860 31 Special details: STATIONS: F = Flevo B = Bonaire M = Madagascar A = Alma Ata I = Irkutsk J = Juelich N = Nauen O = Moscow P = Petropav.K. S = Samara T = Tashkent X = Luxemburg Z = Meyerton SCHEDULE: d = daily w = weekdays s = sundays a = saturdays # = until March 2, 1997 * = from March 2, 1997 Radio Netherlands Programme Distribution Hilversum, 30-Oct-1996 Reception reports can be sent to: Programme Distribution P.O.Box 222, 1200 JG Hilversum, The Netherlands Fax: +31 35 6724 429 e-mail: dfp@rnw.nl ++ --- * Origin: The Munsters, Munster, Ontario, Canada (1:163/335.18) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 140 SHORT WAVE Ref: DFM00001 Date: 11/16/96 From: JIM DVOROVY Time: 03:44pm \/To: DOUG ESPY (Read 4 times) Subj: SHORTWAVE ANTENNAS On 11-14-96 Doug Espy wrote to Jim Dvorovy... DE> Each leg needs to be 31 and 1/2 inches vertically polarized and side DE> fed with DE> preferably RG-9913 or better for the frequency of 91.9 MHZ. Hi Doug: Thank you very much for your assistance with the calculations. I am not sure what ~side fed~ means, so I'll have to look that up somewhere and try it. A knowledgeable person at my workplace helped me with the formulae for 1/2 wavelength dipole and folded dipole. His ARRL Antenna Handbook had the formula lenth in feet = 468 divided by freq.(91.1Mhz) I've had some small success with my home made ones cut 5.09ft and 5.35ft, but success seems to depend on atmospheric conditions. I am still experi- menting with the two above mentioned types using 300 ohm twin lead, vary- "physical length / electrical length", etc. DE> I would like your DE> input on what you will use for a downlink wether it would be satilite DE> or SW. What I am trying to listen to is a very low power station, the power being about 3 watts, from a distance of 7 or 8 miles from the transmitter. Shortwave programs (talk radio) put out by persons such as Senator Charles Duke from Missouri?, Dr. Norman Resnick, Bo Gritz, Henry Fineburg are being broadcast and rebroadcast on FM stations all across the country. So, to answer your question, I don't think I am using a downlink?, but I am not skilled enough to understand what you mean. DE> I'dd like to get into the satilite subcarrier listening myself but the DE> converters are a tad too much expensive and I am curious if you have DE> any homebrew schematics for a subcarrier converter? Since my only equipment is a $30.00 SEARS Shortwave radio with a whip tele- scope, all of the things you are mentioning above are way over my head, things I do not know about. I'm a relative newcomer to shortwave listening, maybe only a year or so now, but enjoy some of the programs and want to hear more. Once again, thank you for your help. Ttyl, bye! --- * OFFLINE 1.56 --- FLAME v1.1 * Origin: CanCom TBBS - Canton, OH (1:157/629) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 140 SHORT WAVE Ref: DFM00002 Date: 11/16/96 From: JIM DVOROVY Time: 03:55pm \/To: SCOTT CHRISTENSEN (Read 4 times) Subj: SHORTWAVE ANTENNAS On 11-12-96 Scott Christensen wrote to Jim Dvorovy... SC> Weingard and other antenna makers make commercial Yagi antennas for SC> the FM> band. I suggest that you investigate these, as you can buy it c SC> than you can make it. You may also want to investigate narrow bandpass SC> made by SC> the same folks. They will help you get rid of the overload fro Hi Scott: Thank you for taking the time to help. Not having a known nearby source to Weingard antennae, I took a chance on the Radio Shack 110 mile range Yagi for $19.99 + tax. I haven't had a chance to explore the narrow bandpass filters you mentioned, and will keep plugging away. The commercial antenna is outstanding for the FM bands as a whole, but unresponsive to the weak signal I am attempting to receive. I am doing much better with 300 ohm twin lead homemade dipole and 1/2 dipole jobs. Depending on sky conditions?, I can get the signal VERY well, other days not so well. Again, I am going to keep experimenting as much a possible. Thank you once again for your help. Ttyl, bye! --- * OFFLINE 1.56 --- FLAME v1.1 * Origin: CanCom TBBS - Canton, OH (1:157/629) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 140 SHORT WAVE Ref: DFM00003 Date: 11/12/96 From: DAN DOUGLAS Time: 12:9Tam \/To: KEVIN REDDING (Read 4 times) Subj: Re: **** HELP **** Kevin_R> $50-300 depending for what you want if you get a portable, and as Kevin_R> high as Kevin_R> $3000 or more for a professional rig. DD> What kind of transmissions will you recieve? Kevin_R> Everything under the sun. DD> Anyways I'm going on too long here , hope someone can help me out? Kevin_R> How'd I do? DD> ANd what is Ham Radio? Kevin_R> Radio using pigs legs. Kevin_R> Naah, really it is people who are using radios as a hobby licensed Kevin_R> to Kevin_R> transmit. They can talk around the world. It is fun but can be Kevin_R> expensive. Kevin_R> Kevin Kevin_R> KA1MBA So since you're a ham , what do you do , you transmit a signal , how when , how long , what freq , where , what do you transmit , ho`w do you get a license , COuld I easily get a licsence and basicaly have my own Radio Station and get advertising and make a profit???? HOW? Please --- DLG Pro v1.0/PDQMail v2.60 * Origin: Far Point Station (1:225/364)