--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 129 OP. SYS DEBATE Ref: FAS00030Date: 06/05/98 From: KEITH DOUGLAS Time: 01:21pm \/To: BEN GRANVILLE (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Linux BG> KD> AH> He told me what Win95 has over other OS's is ease of use. BG> KD> AH> Although that doesn't mean headache free as many have found BG> KD> And it doesn't have nearly the ease of use of MacOS. BG> KD> So it loses even there. BG> KD> (As I say, there's no use for Microsoft OSes) BG> Are you guys still mad because MS decided that OS/2 sucked BG> and dropped it? (I'm just glad they took out all the OS/2 They dropped it, but it isn't clear the decided it sucked. Me? Mad? Hardly. I've never been an OS/2 user, though I would if for some demented reason I had to use an x86 machine. --- FMail/386 1.22 * Origin: The Chrono Zone (514)363-6298 Lasalle, QC, Canada (1:167/310) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 129 OP. SYS DEBATE Ref: FAS00031Date: 06/05/98 From: KEITH DOUGLAS Time: 02:09pm \/To: DAN DEYETTE (Read 0 times) Subj: NEW! DD> system? I thought about it and ive decided to learn C++. DD> Anyone have DD> anything they'd like to say? Uh, if you are just learning C++, (assuming you know no other languages) writing an OS will be impossible. --- FMail/386 1.22 * Origin: The Chrono Zone (514)363-6298 Lasalle, QC, Canada (1:167/310) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 129 OP. SYS DEBATE Ref: FAS00032Date: 06/05/98 From: DAVID BOWERMAN Time: 10:02pm \/To: DIRK CAP (Read 0 times) Subj: Linux Dirk Cap wrote in a message to Denis Tonn: DC> So it is..... Maybe some parts of the kernelcode or inside DC> some dll's there is OS/2 code. Also, it can be loaded as a DC> subsystem to run OS/2 2.x textmode programs inside a DC> (DOS) OS/2 box. I haven't tested it yet, but it seems to work. 1.x 16 bit text mode programs. The add-on to allow 16 bit 1.x PM programs doesn't work with 4.0. Regards, David --- timEd/2 1.10.y2k+ * Origin: Frog Hollow -- a scenic backroad off the Infobahn (1:153/290) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 129 OP. SYS DEBATE Ref: FAS00033Date: 06/04/98 From: DIRK CAP Time: 12:19am \/To: MATHIEU BOUCHARD (Read 0 times) Subj: OPENDOS Hallo Mathieu, MB> Lots of companies have made OSes very close to Unix: Sun, MB> Hewlett-Packard, Digital, Santa Cruz Operation, etc. And those are MB> often called Unix systems. Yes it is, and the systems you called are some of the best and most powerfull Unix systems. MB> And Linux was originally created by Finnish students, although it MB> quickly became very international. Will you tell me the whole story of the creation and publication of Linux. It seems very, very interesting.... :)) Greetings, Dirk ... Borg-DOS command : Assimilate C: /Q --- PPoint 1.70 * Origin: Cap Dirk from Belgium (2:292/865.19) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 129 OP. SYS DEBATE Ref: FAS00034Date: 06/05/98 From: JACK STEIN Time: 07:27pm \/To: DAN DEYETTE (Read 0 times) Subj: NEW! Dan Deyette wrote in a message to All: DD> Would it be a good idea at this point in time to write an DD> opperating system? I thought about it and ive decided to DD> learn C++. Anyone have anything they'd like to say? Good Luck! Would be much easier just to choose one of the two good OS written, OS/2 or Unix, and use one of them. You could use them to learn C++ then you will know quickly why this is not such a hot project to learn C++ on. Jack --- timEd/2-B11 * Origin: Jack's Free Lunch 4OS2 USR16.8 Pgh Pa (412)492-0822 (1:129/171) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 129 OP. SYS DEBATE Ref: FAS00035Date: 06/05/98 From: JACK STEIN Time: 10:03pm \/To: KEITH DOUGLAS (Read 0 times) Subj: Anyone? Keith Douglas wrote in a message to Bobby Queen: BQ> Anyone interested in keeping this echo backboned? KD> I was going to email Dave Raymond about it, but I keep KD> forgetting to do so... KD> (I -am- the comoderator, after all...) OK Keith, whats up here? Not that it matters all that much as we are to damn well behaved in this echo for my tastes as it is, but really, someone we never heard of in many years and zillions of posts suddenly taking over the moderatorship sort of bothers me. I wrote him a message about it, and he doesn't seem interested enough to even respond... whats up anyway? Same damn thing happened in another echo I carry, some stranger suddenly claimed the echo? I guess it's "legal" enough, but why on earth would someone that NEVER participated suddenly want to be bothered? Strange damn people around these days... Anyhow, if your not moderating anymore, and the moderator is out to lunch, lets fight... Did I mention WIN sucks and WIN users are stupid, and WIN is just a bad copy of a MAC, and OS/2 rules and... and..... Unix is made by God hisself? Take off the gloves and say something provocative, before I log off and run to the othernet.... Lets find Bill Wolff and go nuts:-) Oh, I think no one argues for MS products much because there can't be 4 people on earth that run WIN and know much about operating systems, and have something good to say about it. A technical void in our lives:-) Jack --- timEd/2-B11 * Origin: Jack's Free Lunch 4OS2 USR16.8 Pgh Pa (412)492-0822 (1:129/171) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 129 OP. SYS DEBATE Ref: FAS00036Date: 06/06/98 From: TORSTEN BALLE KOEFOED Time: 08:04pm \/To: MATT BEDYNEK (Read 0 times) Subj: OS/2 vs Net Attacks? Hi there Matt! Replying to a message of Matt Bedynek to Torsten Balle Koefoed: MB> Why would and attack mainly designed for windows work on MB> so many other os's but not os/2? I know why, but I'm just trying to show an objective attitude. AH>> NesTea TBK>> Pouring this into your machine might kill anything, but I guess TBK>> that's a hardware-related problem. ;-) MB> what's it do, this is one i have not yet seen. I don't know either what it does, but my comment was ment as a joke, since NesTea is also a drink. TBK>> It's possible that OS/2 /could/ get nuked via TCP/IP, but I don't TBK>> believe anyone would waste their time trying to, as it wouldn't TBK>> attract any worthwhile publicity. MB> wrong,.. with all the windows users out there who dislike os/2 and MB> would get a kick out of seeing it go down. Then why haven't we seen any OS/2 virus yet? Maybe a lot of Windows users would like to see it happend, but I don't think any of them would spend their time actually doing it. Yours etc. Torsten Balle Koefoed --- FleetStreet 1.22+ * Origin: Waiting for the punchline... (2:238/202.3) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 129 OP. SYS DEBATE Ref: FAS00037Date: 06/04/98 From: HOWARD BRAZEE Time: 05:37am \/To: MATHIEU BOUCHARD (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Living Os'S And Almo MB>Incidentally, on a Sun 118-key keyboard, like the one i'm using most of MB>the time, there are a few keys labeled: Cut, Copy, Paste, Help, Front, MB>Open, and they only serve that purpose. It's not like Ctrl-X Ctrl-C MB>Ctrl-V F1 Alt-Tab Alt-something. That makes sense. Of course on the PC we have Pause, Scroll-Lock, & SysReq keys which don't do anything anymore. A help key would be better than F1. An Undo/Redo key would be nice. Word Perfect was written on a system which didn't have F1 keys, and was orted from there. That's why help was F2. Howard Brazee, Lakewood CO - brazee@compuserve.com ___ * MR/2 * Food fight! - John Belushi --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: TeamOS/2-Denver * ISDN, x2, V90 * Denver (303)337-8701 (1:104/720) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 129 OP. SYS DEBATE Ref: FAS00038Date: 06/06/98 From: JACK STEIN Time: 07:54am \/To: MATT BEDYNEK (Read 0 times) Subj: OS/2 vs Net Attacks? Matt Bedynek wrote in a message to Torsten Balle Koefoed: AH> NesTea TBK> Pouring this into your machine might kill anything, but I guess TBK> that's a hardware-related problem. ;-) MB> what's it do, this is one i have not yet seen. i would put MB> my odds on os/2 being more stable against it than windows if MB> it came to testing. He was speaking of the liquid beverage you are supposed to pour down your throat, not in your PC. TBK> There are frequently released fixpacks for OS/2's TCP/IP stack. MB> whats funny is i never had to apply one to keep my system MB> from being screwed with. goto ms's ftp site and see how MB> many fixes you need to keep your system from being crashed. Same here. Never had to install a fixpack and never had a problem with virus, speed, connections, File I/O or anything else related to computing. OS/2 is a well written OS, that works as is on most computers and besides, most 99% of all viri exist only in the duffus behind the keyboard. I knew a MAC guy that claimed he got 7 attacks a week... GUI people are often like that, when they F*&% up, it must be a virus, could not POSSIBLY be their stupidity, or heaven forbid, their LAMO OS screwing up yet again. TBK> It's possible that OS/2 /could/ get nuked via TCP/IP, but I TBK> don't believe anyone would waste their time trying to, as it TBK> wouldn't attract any worthwhile publicity. MB> wrong,.. with all the windows users out there who dislike MB> os/2 and would get a kick out of seeing it go down. Most WIN users today don't know what a file is, let alone how to write a virus. MOST WIN users think AOL IS the internet, and know nothing more than how to access AOL, period. To INTENTIONALLY choose to run WIN, one must be either totally computer illiterate, or a CROOK, making tons of money off the computer illiterates dumb enough to choose to run WIN. Jack --- timEd/2-B11 * Origin: Jack's Free Lunch 4OS2 USR 56k Pgh Pa (412)492-0822 (1:129/171) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 129 OP. SYS DEBATE Ref: FAS00039Date: 06/06/98 From: JACK STEIN Time: 08:06am \/To: KEITH DOUGLAS (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Linux Keith Douglas wrote in a message to Ben Granville: BG> KD> (As I say, there's no use for Microsoft OSes) BG> Are you guys still mad because MS decided that OS/2 sucked BG> and dropped it? (I'm just glad they took out all the OS/2 KD> They dropped it, but it isn't clear the decided it sucked. KD> Me? Mad? Hardly. I've never been an OS/2 user, though I KD> would if for some demented reason I had to use an x86 KD> machine. Now you have to go and make sense for a change, how could anyone argue with that? Of course, UNIX also runs on an x86 platform, so if you were running a business on that platform, Unix would be a great way to go. OS/2 is after all NOT a business OS, any more than WIN or MACs are, they are designed for the HOME user that is more interested in changing colors every five minutes than getting work done. None of them other than UNIX work well unless you throw a TON of power at them, which of course is excellent for HW manufacturers, like IBM and INTEL. Jack --- timEd/2-B11 * Origin: Jack's Free Lunch 4OS2 USR16.8 Pgh Pa (412)492-0822 (1:129/171)