--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 129 OP. SYS DEBATE Ref: E5C00013Date: 05/08/97 From: ERIC JONES Time: 05:50am \/To: MACK BARSS (Read 2 times) Subj: Which is the best? -=> Quoting Mack Barss to Eric Jones <=- SL> OS2/WinNT have separate sessions for EACH. Win95 shoves them all in SL> the one boat. DR> You are incorrect again. Please explain the option in OS/2, to run DR> all of your Win apps in one session, or some or all in separate DR> sessions. EJ> No, in fact Scott is quite correct in this case (for OS/2 at least). EJ> The option hardly even needs an explanation, but since you do seem EJ> to need one... MB> Eric, Scott is only particially correct. Yes OS/2 has seperate MB> sessions, but the default install is for Windows apps to run in the MB> same session. If you want seperate session for each win app you MB> start you either have to change the default windows session settings MB> or change the individual setting for that program. MB> Scott statement, at least if you go by what's quoted above is a half MB> truth. Sorry, but there was no mention in any of the previous messages concerning the default settings, only wether the ability existed or not. So there is no half anything about it, OS/2 *has* the ability, and that's all that was being discussed. Anyway, as if it mattered, according to HELP's description of "seperate session" if you use the "add programs" function, OS/2 will automatically determine by itself if the windows program needs "seperate session" and act accordingly. So then, being in the shared WIN session is only the default if you add the program manually, or OS/2 decides the program doesn't need to have it's own seperate session. ... And now, for your viewing pleasure, this very annoying tagline. ~~~ TGWave v1.20 Beta-07+ --- Telegard v3.02/mL * Origin: Courier Central \ Cashion, OK \ 405.433.2665 (1:147/92) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 129 OP. SYS DEBATE Ref: E5D00000Date: 05/08/97 From: DARRELL SALTER Time: 05:19pm \/To: KEITH DOUGLAS (Read 2 times) Subj: Which is the best? Keith Douglas wrote in a message to Darrell Salter: KD> Uh, don't insult people, Darrell. My apologies to you, Scott, and anyone else I may have offended. Cheers, Darrell darrells@idirect.com Yeah, I'm WARPed! ... Hold on! Doesn't NT mean NinTendo ? --- * Origin: Sparky's - How come nobody ever wrote a PRO-Windoze tag? (1:229/1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 129 OP. SYS DEBATE Ref: E5D00001Date: 05/07/97 From: JACK STEIN Time: 05:02pm \/To: ELLIOTT GOODMAN (Read 2 times) Subj: Which is the best? Elliott Goodman wrote in a message to Scott Little: SL> Lets see...ARCsolo, Backmaster, Fastback, Dualstor, and Sytos (two SL> versions of that one). JB> Back Again/2, BakupWiz, Seagate Backup for OS/2, NovaBack for OS/2.. SL> Above is a perfect example of just why I don't use OS/2 for my SL> day-to-day use. If I have to go through nine possible backup programs SL> to find one that WORKs, let alone one that I like, it's a pretty sad SL> picture. EG> What's sad is that you complain there are no OS/2 apps or EG> any choice between apps but when you're presented with a EG> list, then you complain there are to many to choose between. Whats sad is he thinks he's "neutral". SL> Under Win95, the first program I tried was a Colorado backup SL> program, which doesn't work with anything but their own drive. SL> The second and third ones are just fine (Arcada and NovaBack). SL> All I had to do was pick one I liked the best. EG> Now here, you complain about the same thing, that one of the EG> Win95 backup programs won't work with your hardware. Same EG> complaint you made about OS/2 above but it's okay if the OS EG> is Win95. EG> You're NOT consistent. He's consistantly inconsistant, and totally one sided, ie, "neutral" Like it or not, he's a typical kid, although I'd have rather been tarred and feathered than sit around playing with computers when I was a kid. He should discover wimmin, or pool halls, or a similar constructive passtime at his e. At least he's trying new things, gotta give him that. Jack --- timEd/2-B11 * Origin: Jack's Free Lunch 4OS2 USR16.8 Pgh Pa (412)492-0822 (1:129/171) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 129 OP. SYS DEBATE Ref: E5D00002Date: 05/07/97 From: JACK STEIN Time: 05:12pm \/To: QUENN FINCH (Read 2 times) Subj: Telegard Quenn Finch wrote in a message to Steve Steffler: QF> Yes. I run WinNT as my main workstation and I use OS/2 to do QF> light work. But, I will use OS/2 to run a BBS in a near QF> feature. Running a BBS IS light work, unless your running a LOT of lines. Jack --- timEd/2-B11 * Origin: Jack's Free Lunch 4OS2 USR16.8 Pgh Pa (412)492-0822 (1:129/171) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 129 OP. SYS DEBATE Ref: E5D00003Date: 05/08/97 From: ANTHONY TIBBS Time: 06:28pm \/To: GREG COBB (Read 2 times) Subj: TBU programs On May 08 06:53, 1997, Greg Cobb of 1:123/434 wrote: GC> Hi Anthony! GC> Wednesday May 07 1997, Anthony Tibbs babbled to KENNETH ABRAMS: KA>>> be KA>>> in the user interface and the file selection process? :-) ->> Compression? GC> I knew someone would think I didn't know the difference, but yes, GC> all settings that mattered in each program were the same. I wasn't thinking that, but I was suggesting one thing that might cause differences. Some programs compress better/longer than others, for example. PkZip is faster than RAR at times. Anthony --- TriED 0.90 * Origin: World of Power BBS <> Private <> Ottawa, Ontario, Canada (1:163/215.38) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 129 OP. SYS DEBATE Ref: E5D00004Date: 05/07/97 From: SCOTT LITTLE Time: 11:36am \/To: MACK BARSS (Read 2 times) Subj: Which Is The Best? [ Quoting Mack Barss to Scott Little ] MB> Lets see... you whine about SUBST, and yet state that your BBS is on MB> C: and the messages are on E:. Now.. this would imply that your bbs MB> config file is pointing to C: for the bbs files and E: for the MB> You also state that when you log on to it locally "IT STILL EXPECTS to MB> find it's files on C: and E:". When I log on locally I am not ON the BBS computer. I am on ANOTHER computer. If the BBS expects to find it's files on C:, then whereever I log in from expects to find them there as well. The only way around it (other than to SUBST or MAP the drives) is to telnet from one computer to the other, which is a massive waste of time and resources. MB> setup to run in a networked environment. The only limitation to the networkability of my BBS is OS/2. MB> Ah... so it is the fault of your BBS package that it is not multinode MB> nor network friendly. No. It's perfectly multinode and network friendly. MD> So do to the inability of your BBS software, you blame the OS. I blame the OS because it makes such simple things so damn difficult. Regards, - Scott [ admin@cyberia.asstdc.com.au | www.asstdc.com.au/~cyberia ] --- FMailX 1.22 * Origin: Cyberia <61-2-9534-1702> Internet, Fidonet, Battlenet.. 3:712/848) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 129 OP. SYS DEBATE Ref: E5D00005Date: 05/07/97 From: SCOTT LITTLE Time: 11:34am \/To: MACK BARSS (Read 2 times) Subj: Which is the best? [ Quoting Mack Barss to Scott Little ] SL> "SUBST under OS2" refers to the SUBST for OS2, not the DOS SUBST. SL> SUBST for OS2 is an IFS (the ones I have are anyway). MB> Are you talking about a third-party utility that is called SUBST? Yes. MB> not then you might want to consider doing a "HELP SUBST" in a OS/2 That SUBST is DOS ONLY. OS2 doesn't know anything about it. MB> Do you have a line in your config.sys for OS/2 that reads something MB> along the lines of: MB> IFS=SUBST.IFS Yes, I put it there. Regards, - Scott [ admin@cyberia.asstdc.com.au | www.asstdc.com.au/~cyberia ] --- FMailX 1.22 * Origin: Cyberia <61-2-9534-1702> Internet, Fidonet, Battlenet.. 3:712/848) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 129 OP. SYS DEBATE Ref: E5D00006Date: 05/07/97 From: SCOTT LITTLE Time: 08:18pm \/To: TIMOTHY PIPER (Read 2 times) Subj: Lemming-Ware [ Quoting Timothy Piper to Scott Little ] TP> Then stop acting like you 'don't know jack'... Try writing TP> EXACTLY WHAT YOU MEAN in a clear, precise and succinct TP> enough manner that you avoid confusion. I am assuming the people in this echo are competant and inteligent enough to take things IN context. If people read the WHOLE message and the WHOLE thread there wouldn't be a problem. I am not going to repeat myself in successive messages. Regards, - Scott [ admin@cyberia.asstdc.com.au | www.asstdc.com.au/~cyberia ] --- FMailX 1.22 * Origin: Cyberia <61-2-9534-1702> Internet, Fidonet, Battlenet.. 3:712/848) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 129 OP. SYS DEBATE Ref: E5D00007Date: 05/07/97 From: SCOTT LITTLE Time: 09:12pm \/To: JUSTIN BAUSTERT (Read 2 times) Subj: SIO [ Quoting Justin Baustert to Scott Little ] SL> DEVICE=C:\SIO\SIO.SYS (COM2:115200,2F8,IRQ3,-) SL> I've tried COM2 and COM4 (internal modem) and locked rates of 38400, SL> 57600 and 115200. JB> Under normal circumstances, you wouldn't have a problem with that JB> exact setup.. Don't know what to tell ya.. See, this is what I'm talking about. You're a classic OS2 Luser. You're the first to bag Windows, but are unwilling to seriously consider anyone's problems with OS2. Regards, - Scott [ admin@cyberia.asstdc.com.au | www.asstdc.com.au/~cyberia ] --- FMailX 1.22 * Origin: Cyberia <61-2-9534-1702> Internet, Fidonet, Battlenet.. 3:712/848) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 129 OP. SYS DEBATE Ref: E5D00008Date: 05/07/97 From: SCOTT LITTLE Time: 09:12pm \/To: TIMOTHY PIPER (Read 2 times) Subj: Lemming-Ware [ Quoting Timothy Piper to Leon Kiriliuk ] TP> than a way to create good programming. I don't compare NT TP> to OS/2 because it isn't much of a contest and it's already No, sorry. You mean, you don't try comparing two systems (both of which are designed to do the same type of job) becuase you know NT will Win. Instead you have to compare a professional, commercial class operating system with a default, home/small office operating environment. Pick on someone your own size, wimp. Regards, - Scott [ admin@cyberia.asstdc.com.au | www.asstdc.com.au/~cyberia ] --- FMailX 1.22 * Origin: Cyberia <61-2-9534-1702> Internet, Fidonet, Battlenet.. 3:712/848)