--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 129 OP. SYS DEBATE Ref: E5B00018Date: 05/05/97 From: STEVE STEFFLER Time: 10:31pm \/To: JUSTIN BAUSTERT (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: Lemming-Ware I care, so I read this mail from Justin Baustert... RM>> A quick look at the Web Server listing of www.windows95.com RM>> shows already 8 *free* web-servers for Win32: JB> I believe you missed the "great" part.. RM>> 5. AOLServer for Windows NT America Online's web server for RM>> Windows NT. JB> I'm sure that's a real winner.. heh.. It's nice that JB> windows95.com is a such a safe-haven for the folks that can't JB> bother with searching more than a couple minutes for any product.. JB> Does that mean everything on windows95.com is worth anything? JB> Absolutely not.. Did you try out all of the ones he listed, as per your request? How do you know that they aren't "great"? Some of them looked really good. steve@gen.lcrnet.org * http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/3755 --- Terminate 4.00/Pro * Origin: Portable Hole (1:342/52.3) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 129 OP. SYS DEBATE Ref: E5B00019Date: 05/05/97 From: STEVE STEFFLER Time: 10:33pm \/To: ANTHONY TIBBS (Read 2 times) Subj: Which Is The Best? I care, so I read this mail from Anthony Tibbs... KA>> Point is, OS/2 doesn't "have that bug". You apparently had a KA>> problem with your particular system and the OS/2 install. What you KA>> describe is not normal. If it was... AT> I didn't have any trouble with the OS/2 install, that worked AT> nicely. It's just that the Adobe Type Manager that WIN-OS/2 AT> installs screws up all the Windows fonts, and I have none (maybe 1 AT> or 2) truetype fonts... Grr.. So disable it from within OS/2's ATM/Win setup. I did, and the problem stopped. AT> You've never experiencd the problem? I remember, many many AT> moons ago, that there was a discussion in one of the fido echos AT> (when I wasn't particularly paying attention to it) about this AT> problem. The mouse works and such, but the keyboard doesn't. _That_ is one thing that has never happened to me. AT> One person suggested the problem might even be with the AT> keyboard. I'm going to try to find an alternate keyboard and try AT> that. It works for me, and interestingly enough, I have a Fujitsu (or is it a Mitsumi?) Win95 Keyboard.. :) steve@gen.lcrnet.org * http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/3755 --- Terminate 4.00/Pro * Origin: Portable Hole (1:342/52.3) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 129 OP. SYS DEBATE Ref: E5B00020Date: 05/05/97 From: STEVE STEFFLER Time: 10:37pm \/To: SCOTT LITTLE (Read 2 times) Subj: Which Is The Best? I care, so I read this mail from Scott Little... ss>> They are interested in a) getting rid of JAVA SL> They don't have to. Unless, of course, they want ActiveX to have any real following. ss>> JAVA their own, so they can assimilate it and everyone else ss>> into ActiveX. SL> Some Java 'code' is being incorporated into ActiveX. But it SL> does not copy much of it at all. Actually, what I meant is when MS compromises by following industry standards to *a certain extent*, and then incorporating their own "standards" into the industry, thus forcing the industry to use some sort of Microsoft product or compatible. steve@gen.lcrnet.org * http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/3755 --- Terminate 4.00/Pro * Origin: Portable Hole (1:342/52.3) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 129 OP. SYS DEBATE Ref: E5B00021Date: 05/05/97 From: STEVE STEFFLER Time: 10:39pm \/To: SCOTT LITTLE (Read 2 times) Subj: Which is the best? I care, so I read this mail from Scott Little... SL>> ".. from a DOS box". START only works from a OS2 command line. ss>> Not here it doesn't. SL> I'm using Connect. And I'm using Warp 3.0 for Windows... isn't it older than Connect? steve@gen.lcrnet.org * http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/3755 --- Terminate 4.00/Pro * Origin: Portable Hole (1:342/52.3) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 129 OP. SYS DEBATE Ref: E5B00022Date: 05/05/97 From: STEVE STEFFLER Time: 10:39pm \/To: SCOTT LITTLE (Read 2 times) Subj: Which is the best? I care, so I read this mail from Scott Little... ss>> You'd have to "go out of your way"? Oh no - I use a Mac at ss>> school with a Mustek Flatbed Scanner (24bit color, SCSI), a SCSI ss>> Iomega Zip drive, an external "portable" SCSI hard disk that can ss>> be plugged and SL> SCSI stuff is all over the place, and not Mac-specific SL> hardware. Who said it had to be Mac-specific? You just said Mac hardware... I use the above hardware on a Mac. ss>> The hardware I love, the software I despise. But that's ss>> another SL> Exactly what about the software? Most of it is very backwards-incompatible, a lot of it crashes regularily for no apparent reason, the UI is too dumbed-down and not technical enough, the software isn't usually optimized very well, and makes poor use of the system resources available to it... etc. steve@gen.lcrnet.org * http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/3755 --- Terminate 4.00/Pro * Origin: Portable Hole (1:342/52.3) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 129 OP. SYS DEBATE Ref: E5B00023Date: 05/05/97 From: STEVE STEFFLER Time: 10:41pm \/To: SCOTT LITTLE (Read 2 times) Subj: Which Is The Best? I care, so I read this mail from Scott Little... MB>>> Tell me Scott... besides Internet Explorer, how many 16bit MB>>> applications has MS released since releasing Win95. (home market). SL>> MSIE is 32bit. ss>> So what's this 16bit version they have on their website? SL> I thought he meant, what 16bit software have MS produced for SL> Win95. Ahh.. k. :) steve@gen.lcrnet.org * http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/3755 --- Terminate 4.00/Pro * Origin: Portable Hole (1:342/52.3) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 129 OP. SYS DEBATE Ref: E5B00024Date: 04/29/97 From: RICH VERAA Time: 07:45pm \/To: LEON KIRILIUK (Read 2 times) Subj: Lemming-Ware In a message to Timothy Piper Leon Kiriliuk wrote: LK> Oh, and here's another thing you can't do under OS/2.. while LK> my Internet dialer is dialing, I double click on Netscape, Pegasis LK> mail, and mIRC ALL AT THE SAME TIME. And they all load together at LK> the same time. Too bad you can't do that under OS/2! (Or have we LK> forget about the single queue problem??) Why not? I load Netscape, ncftp, vsoup (pop3/smtp client), time868 (tcp/udp client) and geturl (to grab the latest weather satellite image for my desktop background) simultaneously while PPP is dialing all the time -- usually with a lot of other stuff going on that I'm working on while it connects. I haven't had a problem with the single queue in years. Cheers, Rich http://www.netside.net/~rveraa/ * Origin: Birdsoft - North Miami (1:135/907) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 129 OP. SYS DEBATE Ref: E5B00025Date: 05/04/97 From: RICH VERAA Time: 09:23am \/To: ERIC JONES (Read 2 times) Subj: Which is the best? In a message to Scott Little Eric Jones wrote: SL> Which means I can't run it from an OS2 box. I have to manually open a SL> new DOS session and start it from there. EJ> Huh? Why can't you just put the SUBST command in OS/2's EJ> AUTOEXEC.BAT? Then you can launch your DOS bbs from an OS/2 prompt, EJ> and when the DOS session loads it'll use the DOS SUBST in the EJ> AUTOEXEC.BAT and everything *should* work fine. In fact, I'll just EJ> try it now to be sure. Yes, when I put SUBST Q: E:\ERIC in the EJ> default AUTOEXEC.BAT that OS/2 uses on DOS sessions and then launch EJ> XtreeGold from an OS/2 prompt, I can play around on my new Q: drive EJ> wich is full of all the files in E:\ERIC. (because, of course it EJ> *is* E:\ERIC) And if you're using HSTART to launch your DOS BBS from EJ> an OS/2 mailer you can even tell it to use a seperate AUTOEXEC.BAT EJ> file entirely. Don't even need HSTART -- he can just list his customized autoexec in the DOS settings notebook of the BBS program (or the batch file that runs it). Cheers, Rich http://www.netside.net/~rveraa/ * Origin: Birdsoft - North Miami (1:135/907) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 129 OP. SYS DEBATE Ref: E5B00026Date: 04/30/97 From: RICH VERAA Time: 05:33pm \/To: JACK STEIN (Read 2 times) Subj: Which is the best? In a message to Quenn Finch Jack Stein wrote: JS>their PC. WIN comes installed, thats what they use, thats JS>ALL they know. It's called "ignorance" QF> Wrong Jack. People can install whatever OS they want. JS> They can't even re-install WIN after they screw it up, who are you JS> kidding? They can if they get an Aptiva. It comes with a "Product Recovery" CD; you just insert it, switch off the computer, and switch it back on. It'll boot from the CD, format and partition the HDD, and install Win95 and all the stuff that came with it, restoring it to just the way it left the factory, all automatically. Pisses me off no end. When I saw this thing had over 600 Meg of Winstuff on it, I figured it'd be easier to delete it all and just re-install the stuff I want. So I partitioned it leaving a 500-Meg FAT primary partition for Win/DOS, and put OS/2 on the rest, formatted HPFS. Then I rummaged through the CDs that came with the system and discovered I can't do that. So now I've got a half-Gig partition for OpenDOS and use the Product Recovery Disc for a coaster. I've also got a WinModem for sale, cheap... Cheers, Rich http://www.netside.net/~rveraa/ * Origin: Birdsoft - North Miami (1:135/907) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 129 OP. SYS DEBATE Ref: E5B00027Date: 04/25/97 From: DAVE RAYMOND Time: 07:03pm \/To: TIM BOUCOS (Read 2 times) Subj: CACHE EFFICIENCY Tim, SL>> It can be bought with any major upgrade. ie. a large HDD or SL>> motherboard. MB>> So in other words... Microsoft is not supporting their current MB>> Win95 users unless they spend money on new hardware. But then MB>> Scott.. if the OEM version states that it can only be sold with NEW MB>> systems ... purchasing a NEW harddrive doesn't qualify as a NEW MB>> system. TB> You forget, the included *free* copy of Win95b counts as a sale in TB> MS' figures for the year. Pretty nice way to pump the NUMBERS of TB> copies sold. MB> => Mack <= Not only that, but the preload counts as far as their concerned, whether the machine ever actually sells or not. They count it as soon as they sell it to the computer manufacturer. Dave Raymond - Moderator (Fido) : Motorola / HS Modems / OS-Debate [Team OS/2] - Moderator (OS2Net): OS/2 Hardware EMail: - solo33@juno.com ... Any problem can be solved by shooting the right person. --- GEcho 1.20/Pro * Origin: Warp Drive * St. Pete, FL * (1:3603/210.12)