--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 129 OP. SYS DEBATE Ref: E5400003Date: 05/02/97 From: SCOTT LITTLE Time: 06:33pm \/To: STEVE STEFFLER (Read 2 times) Subj: Which Is The Best? [ Quoting steve steffler to Scott Little ] ss> They are interested in a) getting rid of JAVA They don't have to. ss> JAVA their own, so they can assimilate it and everyone else into ss> ActiveX. Some Java 'code' is being incorporated into ActiveX. But it does not copy much of it at all. Regards, - Scott [ admin@cyberia.asstdc.com.au | www.asstdc.com.au/~cyberia ] --- FMail/2 1.22 * Origin: Cyberia <61-2-9534-1702> Internet, Fidonet, Battlenet.. 3:712/848) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 129 OP. SYS DEBATE Ref: E5400004Date: 05/02/97 From: SCOTT LITTLE Time: 06:34pm \/To: STEVE STEFFLER (Read 2 times) Subj: Which is the best? [ Quoting steve steffler to Scott Little ] SL> ".. from a DOS box". START only works from a OS2 command line. ss> Not here it doesn't. I'm using Connect. Regards, - Scott [ admin@cyberia.asstdc.com.au | www.asstdc.com.au/~cyberia ] --- FMail/2 1.22 * Origin: Cyberia <61-2-9534-1702> Internet, Fidonet, Battlenet.. 3:712/848) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 129 OP. SYS DEBATE Ref: E5400005Date: 05/02/97 From: SCOTT LITTLE Time: 08:04pm \/To: STEVE STEFFLER (Read 2 times) Subj: Which is the best? [ Quoting steve steffler to Scott Little ] ss> You'd have to "go out of your way"? Oh no - I use a Mac at school ss> with a Mustek Flatbed Scanner (24bit color, SCSI), a SCSI Iomega Zip ss> drive, an external "portable" SCSI hard disk that can be plugged and SCSI stuff is all over the place, and not Mac-specific hardware. ss> The hardware I love, the software I despise. But that's another Exactly what about the software? Regards, - Scott [ admin@cyberia.asstdc.com.au | www.asstdc.com.au/~cyberia ] --- FMail/2 1.22 * Origin: Cyberia <61-2-9534-1702> Internet, Fidonet, Battlenet.. 3:712/848) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 129 OP. SYS DEBATE Ref: E5400006Date: 05/02/97 From: SCOTT LITTLE Time: 06:35pm \/To: STEVE STEFFLER (Read 2 times) Subj: Which Is The Best? [ Quoting steve steffler to Scott Little ] MB>> Tell me Scott... besides Internet Explorer, how many 16bit MB>> applications has MS released since releasing Win95. (home market). SL> MSIE is 32bit. ss> So what's this 16bit version they have on their website? I thought he meant, what 16bit software have MS produced for Win95. Regards, - Scott [ admin@cyberia.asstdc.com.au | www.asstdc.com.au/~cyberia ] --- FMail/2 1.22 * Origin: Cyberia <61-2-9534-1702> Internet, Fidonet, Battlenet.. 3:712/848) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 129 OP. SYS DEBATE Ref: E5400007Date: 05/02/97 From: SCOTT LITTLE Time: 06:36pm \/To: ROGIER MEURS (Read 2 times) Subj: Which Is The Best? [ Quoting Rogier Meurs to Scott Little ] SL> I'm not complaining. The only program from MS that has anything to do SL> with 'JAVA' is MSIE. RM> On which the entire interface of Memphis will be based, with a RM> JavaScript and VBscript scriptable desktop. It's a lot more than that. Regards, - Scott [ admin@cyberia.asstdc.com.au | www.asstdc.com.au/~cyberia ] --- FMail/2 1.22 * Origin: Cyberia <61-2-9534-1702> Internet, Fidonet, Battlenet.. 3:712/848) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 129 OP. SYS DEBATE Ref: E5400008Date: 05/02/97 From: SCOTT LITTLE Time: 07:13pm \/To: DARRELL SALTER (Read 2 times) Subj: Which is the best? [ Quoting Darrell Salter to Denis Tonn ] DS> If this wasn't such an intelligent question, I'd think it was a trap. DS> I can't wait for the answer. :-) Which is "I'd be using OS/2". Regards, - Scott [ admin@cyberia.asstdc.com.au | www.asstdc.com.au/~cyberia ] --- FMail/2 1.22 * Origin: Cyberia <61-2-9534-1702> Internet, Fidonet, Battlenet.. 3:712/848) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 129 OP. SYS DEBATE Ref: E5400009Date: 05/02/97 From: SCOTT LITTLE Time: 08:05pm \/To: ALL (Read 2 times) Subj: Java correction I have mentioned some "CPU specific" instructions in Java in this echo several times. I just looked it up again, and it seems I didn't supply the whole story. According to the article, the extra code is only implemented (and is non- standard etc.) where the Java remains uncompiled (eg. Internet toys), and in generic, multi-platform 'executables'. The "Java Interpreters" and "Just-in- Time Compilers" don't have a hope in the world of supplying the running program at any respectable speed without small enhancements. When the Java source is compiled into CPU specific executables, the speed difference between compiled Java and compiled C isn't much. - That said, it seems CISC still has some advantages over RISC when it comes to Java. eg. CISC's PUSH and POP can be valuable to handle Java's stack operations more efficiently than RISC. Another is that CISC (80x86) has 16 general purpose registers, while RISC generally have 32 or 64. But Java is a stack language, so the extra registers that RISC boasts are of no great significance with Java. - And yes, Dennis, there is a Java CPU. Regards, - Scott [ admin@cyberia.asstdc.com.au | www.asstdc.com.au/~cyberia ] --- FMail/2 1.22 * Origin: Cyberia <61-2-9534-1702> Internet, Fidonet, Battlenet.. 3:712/848) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 129 OP. SYS DEBATE Ref: E5400010Date: 04/22/97 From: GORD MCFEE Time: 10:44pm \/To: SCOTT LITTLE (Read 2 times) Subj: Microsoft = Security Hel In a message dated 04-16-97, Scott Little said to Gord Mcfee: SL> [ Quoting Gord McFee to Scott Little ] SL>The only reason HPFS is less likely to get a virus is because the SL>majority of computers are running FAT system, so most viruses are SL>designed to infect FAT partitions (if at all). GM> I don't think you will find the technical explanations agree with GM> that. My recollection is that the way in which HPFS is constructed is GM> the main reason. SL>That's kind of what I was implying. Most virii expect to be on FAT, and SL>so expect certain things to be incertain places. Under HPFS, they SL>aren't (which can lead to different problems too). Actually, I thought it was more than that, but I'll defer to the experts. Gord McFee ___ * MR/2 2.26 #331 * I'll write no line before its time (gmcfee@ibm.net) --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: Modem Connections/2 - (613) 820-2594 - Nepean, Ont. (1:163/545) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 129 OP. SYS DEBATE Ref: E5400011Date: 04/22/97 From: GORD MCFEE Time: 10:52pm \/To: SCOTT LITTLE (Read 2 times) Subj: Which Is The Best? In a message dated 04-16-97, Scott Little said to Gord Mcfee: SL> [ Quoting Gord McFee to Scott Little ] GM> And you shouldn't confuse numbers with quality. Just as one example, GM> I have yet to see any Windows e-mailer that comes within 100 miles of GM> MR/2 ICE. And I haven't seen any QWK nwesreader anywhere that comes GM> close to MR/2 Classic. SL>Have you looked at FreeAgent, or just plain old Netscape News? SL>And as the name suggests, FreeAgent is free. MR/2 is shareware. Poor SL>sod, you're still paying for software. I've looked at most of them. MR/2 was only $25 when I registered and it is worth every penny. Its feature set has yet to be matched. Gord McFee ___ * MR/2 2.26 #331 * I'll write no line before its time (gmcfee@ibm.net) --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: Modem Connections/2 - (613) 820-2594 - Nepean, Ont. (1:163/545) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 129 OP. SYS DEBATE Ref: E5400012Date: 05/03/97 From: JUSTIN BAUSTERT Time: 06:20am \/To: ROGIER MEURS (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: Lemming-Ware JB> applications for each operating system? Let's see.. I've seen great JB> web servers that didn't cost an arm and a leg.. What sort of *free* JB> (and great, no less) web servers have you seen for Win32? RM> A quick look at the Web Server listing of www.windows95.com shows RM> already 8 *free* web-servers for Win32: I believe you missed the "great" part.. RM> 5. AOLServer for Windows NT RM> America Online's web server for Windows NT. I'm sure that's a real winner.. heh.. It's nice that windows95.com is a such a safe-haven for the folks that can't bother with searching more than a couple minutes for any product.. Does that mean everything on windows95.com is worth anything? Absolutely not.. Justin Baustert --- Telegard v3.02/mL * Origin: Courier Central \ Cashion, OK \ 405.433.2665 (1:147/92)