--------------------------------------- SL> Wasn't it the OS2 crowd saying that all new OS2 apps run on old SL> versions of OS2? Doesn't that sound something like OS2 not changing SL> terribly much? SS> Nooooooo, it sounds like backwards compatibility in the applications, SS> a mark of decent programming. SL> No, it sounds like OS2 hasn't changed a bit in the last release or more. SL> Backward compatibility means new OS runs old software. I'm talking about SL> old OS runs new software. Actually, that is mostly done via fixpacks to the older levels. There *are* some newer programs that won't run on a previous version of OS/2 no matter what FP's are installed. Not all enhanced functions are made available for previous versions via FP's (VT in Warp 4 for example). Denis All opinions are my very own, IBM has no claim upon them . . . --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: T-Board - (604) 277-4574 (1:153/908) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 129 OP. SYS DEBATE Ref: E4U00033Date: 04/23/97 From: DENIS TONN Time: 09:57pm \/To: SCOTT LITTLE (Read 2 times) Subj: Which is the best? Original from Scott Little to Denis Tonn on 04-18-1997 Original Subject: Which is the best? --------------------------------------- DT> Fastback for OS/2 does this just fine in the installations I have DT> seen. Faster than anything else too. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ SL> Why did you feel it necessary to add that line? You of all people should know SL> that the speed of tape drives don't depend on the software controlling t. SL> Mine hits a maximum of around 13.5 meg a minute. And that's all it is capable SL> of. No more. Of all the backup products I have seen working with multiple tapes (and drives and cards), the ONLY one I have seen to fully drive the hardware to it's inherent limits has been FB/2. Backagain/2 seems to come close to the same capabilities, though I haven't seen test results that use multiple scsi cards, multiple tape drives, and multiple hard drives simultaneously. FB/2 can saturate a MicroChannel (similar/faster than PCI) BUS when given the cards and drives that can handle it. Can your backup *software* handle over 100MB per min? How would you know if it has never been tested on hardware that is capable of this? I meant what I said. Can I ask what drive (and bus attachment) you are using to get the above speed? It may have been one of the drives tested so I can tell you what FB/2 would give you. SL> BTW, does FastBack have DOS and Windows versions too? And are they SL> interchangeable? Yes. The OS/2 version is the fastest. Denis All opinions are my very own, IBM has no claim upon them . . . --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: T-Board - (604) 277-4574 (1:153/908) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 129 OP. SYS DEBATE Ref: E4U00034Date: 04/23/97 From: DENIS TONN Time: 09:58pm \/To: SCOTT LITTLE (Read 2 times) Subj: Which is the best? Original from Scott Little to Denis Tonn on 04-18-1997 Original Subject: Which is the best? --------------------------------------- SL> There are languages out there other than C you know. DT> Sure, I might even know a few of them. Which "free" compiler is your DT> friend using? SL> I don't know (it's a pascal compiler though), and he's not my friend. Well, you told us his compiler was "free". I would have thought you knew what this "free" compiler was. Why can't you check with him on the name? After all, you made a big deal about it being "free" and that he couldn't find an OS/2 compiler (at the same price) that would do the same thing. There are a couple of "free" pascal compilers for OS/2 also.. I don't remember the names, but I found them on a net search at one time, probably a university site. Denis All opinions are my very own, IBM has no claim upon them . . . --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: T-Board - (604) 277-4574 (1:153/908) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 129 OP. SYS DEBATE Ref: E4U00035Date: 04/23/97 From: DENIS TONN Time: 10:28pm \/To: QUENN FINCH (Read 2 times) Subj: Your *precious* NT Original from Quenn Finch to Jeff Dunlop on 04-21-1997 Original Subject: Your *precious* NT --------------------------------------- QF>> I'm sure any hacker in the world can hack OS/2 Network. JD>You're speaking from pure ignorance. Warp Server is secure. The reason that JD>MS JD>is having such fits with their security is that they don't JD>have 30+ years experience writing network and systems JD>software, and IT SHOWS. QF> That message should be sent to the business man. What makes you think it isn't? How many F1000 CIO's do you think make their business decsions by reading PCWeek reviews? Do you belong to this group? Denis All opinions are my very own, IBM has no claim upon them . . . --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: T-Board - (604) 277-4574 (1:153/908) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 129 OP. SYS DEBATE Ref: E4U00036Date: 04/23/97 From: DENIS TONN Time: 11:14pm \/To: SCOTT LITTLE (Read 2 times) Subj: Which Is The Best? Original from Scott Little to Greg Cobb on 04-20-1997 Original Subject: Which Is The Best? --------------------------------------- SL> Java is an interplatform reincarnation of C - which is already SL> falling apart. GC> You're saying no one is programming in C anymore? SL> I said Java is falling apart. And it is. Already there is a LOT of platform SL> specific code. MUCH more than was ever intended. The whole concept of ava SL> went bust. How many JVM systems use non-standard platform specific extensions? Other than MS of course. List them please and be specific about the extensions they are using. As far as I know, MS is the only company trying to "take it their own way". I do try and follow the Java scene, and would be interested in your analysis of why it is "falling apart". GC> BTW, are you going to wait until 98 for Win 97? SL> Urm, it has never been called Win97. It remains under it's codename until SL> MS think they are good and ready to release it. The codename is NOT "Win97". And we already know the differences between what a codename called "Chicago" promised to be and what the product called "Windows 95" turned out to be. There are even whole books written about the "differences" between the promises and the reality. "Those that refuse to learn from history are destined to repeat it." Denis All opinions are my very own, IBM has no claim upon them . . . --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: T-Board - (604) 277-4574 (1:153/908) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 129 OP. SYS DEBATE Ref: E4V00000Date: 04/25/97 From: MACK BARSS Time: 01:10pm \/To: SCOTT LITTLE (Read 2 times) Subj: Which is the best? Scott Little wrote in a message to KENNETH ABRAMS: KA> Do you assign drive letters to your hard drive partitions? SL> Indirectly. When partitioning a drive, I keep in mind what drives I SL> want to put things. No Scott... you don't assign drive letters to your hard drive... FDISK does that. Deciding what partition to put things on (software) can only be done after FDISK has assigned the partitions drive letters. KA> Why is that not a problem for you? What makes a CD so special? SL> Because I run a BBS. The CDROM is always I drive, the BBS software SL> itself is on X, the filebase is on Y, and the mail and file SL> database files are on Z. And thats why you use SUBST in Win95, because you can't MAP a local drive like in OS/2 Warp Connect, WinNT, Lantastic, etc. KA> So, if it's *that* important to you, it can be done under Warp3 SL> Via two different IFS' that I've seen. One is the EXT2 IFS which SL> includes a drive re-mapping driver - for which the docs are so poor SL> they don't even specify the syntax, and the other is just SUBST for SL> OS2, which is a stand- alone IFS. SUBST is not a IFS... it is a command and it uses the file system that you have (ie FAT, VFAT, etc). => Mack <= --- timEd/2 1.10 * Origin: Modem Connections/2 (613) 820-2594 - Nepean, Ont. (1:163/545)