--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 105 HIGH SPEED MODEM Ref: F2K00002Date: 02/10/98 From: DAVID WEI Time: 12:07pm \/To: CAREY BLOODWORTH (Read 4 times) Subj: Re: Negociations (SP) -=> Quoting Carey Bloodworth to Craig Ford <=- CB> Only that, USR didn't create v.32terbo itself, that AT&T did. And CB> that although USR did indeed 'create' their own extended v.32terbo, CB> that it was not the same v.32terbo that everybody else used. That USR's CB> extended version was incompatible with anyone elses v.32terbo. USR CB> extended it, but didn't change its name (how about v.32terbo+...?), CB> which would imply that the version they did create (and publicize) CB> _was_ v.32terbo. The same v.32terbo that everybody else was using. It CB> wasn't. And that you could thank USR for the v.32terbo that CB> 'everybody' was using. You couldn't. SO? It does NOT interfere with *ANY* operation with non-USR modems... Their ASL and other technology (some are now finally in the V.34/V.34+ protocal)enables them to run faster, so they did... but they didn't harm the protocal or change it drasticly so that no other modem can communicate with it... In fact, Courier has been THE modem that gives the most speed, no matter what the other modem is... Even the early flakey Sportster become rock stable when hooked onto a Courier... CB> The part of the original message I responded to strongly implied CB> (possibly explicitly. I can't remember. Been too long and the CB> message was way too long.) that USR created v.32terbo. They didn't. CB> All they did was create their own incompatabile, proprietary extension CB> to v.32terbo, but left the name the same, implying it was still the CB> same old v.32terbo that everybody else used. I didn't think anyone said USR created V.32ter, but rather they added an extension so it can be faster... And the extension didn't harm any compatibilities... SO WHAT'S YOUR PROBLEM? Should car be make so it will go 150+MPH at the track instead of limited to the max speed limit of the area? So it can be "compatible" with local laws? I don't think so... ... Borg Moderator: Your Topic Is Irrelevant, your arguments are futile. ___ Blue Wave/OS2 v2.30 --- Telegard/QWK v3.09.b15/mL * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Vancouver, B.C. Canada (1:153/757) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 105 HIGH SPEED MODEM Ref: F2K00003Date: 02/13/98 From: DAVID WEI Time: 08:00pm \/To: JOHN RANGER (Read 4 times) Subj: Re: ZOOM and FIDO connect -=> Quoting John Ranger to David Bowerman <=- DB> What is the modem at the far end of the connect? JR> I believe it's spelled ZYZEL? ZyXel... :) ... Windoze 95': Yesterday's operating system, today! ___ Blue Wave/OS2 v2.30 --- Telegard/QWK v3.09.b15/mL * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Vancouver, B.C. Canada (1:153/757) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 105 HIGH SPEED MODEM Ref: F2K00004Date: 02/13/98 From: DAVID WEI Time: 07:42pm \/To: RICHARD TOWN (Read 4 times) Subj: Re: -=> Quoting Richard Town to David Bowerman <=- DB> But then, I mustn't forget that to you, anything screwed up by DB> Rockwell is the fault of other folks for not being able to handle DB> Rockwell's screwups. RT> And still there's nothing about USR's once fabled V34 interop... What about it? My USR Courier worked wonders since the first day I got it, and that's more than two years ago... it is still the fastest modem on the market... and connects to just about everything at the max speed, which depends on the remote hardware and local hardware, and the line condition, but often I can max out the connection at all protocals before the V.34 and VFC... and with both of those faster protocals, I can usually get pretty close to max speed... ... OS/2: The same thing as NT - Only it works. -- J. Dvorak ___ Blue Wave/OS2 v2.30 --- Telegard/QWK v3.09.b15/mL * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Vancouver, B.C. Canada (1:153/757) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 105 HIGH SPEED MODEM Ref: F2K00005Date: 02/13/98 From: CHARLES JOUGLARD Time: 10:41pm \/To: ALL (Read 4 times) Subj: Cable Modems Hello, Has anyone used or found any information regarding cable modems? If so, please advise web sites or references if you have them. Charles Jouglard cjouglard@nopc.org _ _ _ _ _ _ My views are my own and do not represent the views of this system, my family, my friends, or ANYBODY ELSE! Anybody believing otherwise is mistaken. - - - - - - --- PPoint 2.03 * Origin: Charles' Point and Play (1:396/45.4) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 105 HIGH SPEED MODEM Ref: F2K00006Date: 02/10/98 From: DAVID WEI Time: 11:07am \/To: CAREY BLOODWORTH (Read 4 times) Subj: Re: Negociations (SP) -=> Quoting Carey Bloodworth to Craig Ford <=- CB> Only that, USR didn't create v.32terbo itself, that AT&T did. And CB> that although USR did indeed 'create' their own extended v.32terbo, CB> that it was not the same v.32terbo that everybody else used. That USR's CB> extended version was incompatible with anyone elses v.32terbo. USR CB> extended it, but didn't change its name (how about v.32terbo+...?), CB> which would imply that the version they did create (and publicize) CB> _was_ v.32terbo. The same v.32terbo that everybody else was using. It CB> wasn't. And that you could thank USR for the v.32terbo that CB> 'everybody' was using. You couldn't. SO? It does NOT interfere with *ANY* operation with non-USR modems... Their ASL and other technology (some are now finally in the V.34/V.34+ protocal)enables them to run faster, so they did... but they didn't harm the protocal or change it drasticly so that no other modem can communicate with it... In fact, Courier has been THE modem that gives the most speed, no matter what the other modem is... Even the early flakey Sportster become rock stable when hooked onto a Courier... CB> The part of the original message I responded to strongly implied CB> (possibly explicitly. I can't remember. Been too long and the CB> message was way too long.) that USR created v.32terbo. They didn't. CB> All they did was create their own incompatabile, proprietary extension CB> to v.32terbo, but left the name the same, implying it was still the CB> same old v.32terbo that everybody else used. I didn't think anyone said USR created V.32ter, but rather they added an extension so it can be faster... And the extension didn't harm any compatibilities... SO WHAT'S YOUR PROBLEM? Should car be make so it will go 150+MPH at the track instead of limited to the max speed limit of the area? So it can be "compatible" with local laws? I don't think so... ... Borg Moderator: Your Topic Is Irrelevant, your arguments are futile. ___ Blue Wave/OS2 v2.30 --- Telegard/QWK v3.09.b15/mL * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Vancouver, B.C. Canada (1:153/757) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 105 HIGH SPEED MODEM Ref: F2K00007Date: 02/13/98 From: DAVID WEI Time: 07:00pm \/To: JOHN RANGER (Read 4 times) Subj: Re: ZOOM and FIDO connect -=> Quoting John Ranger to David Bowerman <=- DB> What is the modem at the far end of the connect? JR> I believe it's spelled ZYZEL? ZyXel... :) ... Windoze 95': Yesterday's operating system, today! ___ Blue Wave/OS2 v2.30 --- Telegard/QWK v3.09.b15/mL * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Vancouver, B.C. Canada (1:153/757) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 105 HIGH SPEED MODEM Ref: F2K00008Date: 02/13/98 From: DAVID WEI Time: 06:42pm \/To: RICHARD TOWN (Read 4 times) Subj: Re: -=> Quoting Richard Town to David Bowerman <=- DB> But then, I mustn't forget that to you, anything screwed up by DB> Rockwell is the fault of other folks for not being able to handle DB> Rockwell's screwups. RT> And still there's nothing about USR's once fabled V34 interop... What about it? My USR Courier worked wonders since the first day I got it, and that's more than two years ago... it is still the fastest modem on the market... and connects to just about everything at the max speed, which depends on the remote hardware and local hardware, and the line condition, but often I can max out the connection at all protocals before the V.34 and VFC... and with both of those faster protocals, I can usually get pretty close to max speed... ... OS/2: The same thing as NT - Only it works. -- J. Dvorak ___ Blue Wave/OS2 v2.30 --- Telegard/QWK v3.09.b15/mL * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Vancouver, B.C. Canada (1:153/757) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 105 HIGH SPEED MODEM Ref: F2K00009Date: 02/12/98 From: MANISH MALIK Time: 11:48pm \/To: RICK GRAHAM (Read 4 times) Subj: Answering Software ? -=> Remebering what Rick Graham wrote to Manish Malik <=- RG> Hotbot is good for this too, found at www.hotbot.com. Thanks. :) will check it out. >>> Here we get a hardware device called the FaxFone. It it attatched >>> to the phone line, and it detects whether it is a Fax/Data call, >>> and transfers it to computer, otherwise it rings the phone. >>> But such a device is too expensive for me to buy from my pocket >>> money! RG> Look for an in-line autodetecting phone/fax/data device made by RG> ComShare. They work great. Is that available in India ?? MANISH MALIK blaster@starmail.com --- Terminate 5.00/Pro --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: Delhi Online <5578535/36> -=[New Delhi/India]=- (6:606/26) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 105 HIGH SPEED MODEM Ref: F2K00010Date: 02/14/98 From: JOHN RANGER Time: 11:46am \/To: DAVID WEI (Read 4 times) Subj: you say potato David Wei wrote in a message to John Ranger: -=> Quoting John Ranger to David Bowerman <=- DB> What is the modem at the far end of the connect? JR> I believe it's spelled ZYZEL? DW> ZyXel... :) Thanks, now please tell David Bowerman, he asked what my sysop has. *********************** John aka RANGER *************************** > Fight Intolerence in every form but Correct my spelling and I'll KILL You! * Origin: Fight AIDS, not PEOPLE with AIDS....KBC-BBS (1:260/310.4) --- Squish v1.10 * Origin: -=:[ KBC Point 4 ]:=- (1:260/310.4) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 105 HIGH SPEED MODEM Ref: F2K00011Date: 02/12/98 From: JONATHAN MICHAELS Time: 08:50pm \/To: JOHN RANGER (Read 4 times) Subj: ZOOM and FIDO connects. John Ranger wrote in a message to all: JR> * Copied (from: ZOOM) by John Ranger using timEd 1.10. JR> Hello all! JR> While I am at this..I may as well ask about this problem as well. JR> My ZOOM V.34 28800 wouks fine on Juno, AOL and Lap-Link 5. JR> It does NOT want to work with my Sysop's board for my FIDONET JR> connects. JR> The connects can be at whatever speed I pick but they all start JR> dying anywhere from 4096 to 16394 bytes. i have a similar problem .. only diference is that i am using a courier (v.everything now upgraded to x2) and the modem i am calling is a gvc v.fc 28k8 generic. JR> Then the paks keep getting resent lowering the CPS till I see a JR> ZMODEM warning...lets see...do I have this..... JR> This happens first >! 06 Feb 00:50:12 BINK Zmodem Recv Problem ??? >* 06 Feb 00:50:12 BINK End of WaZOO/EMSI Session same here, but i cannot get past the sending data stage the other end keeps hanging upat about the 16k of data. JR> then I restart and get this >+ 06 Feb 08:40:50 BINK Synchronizing to Offset 104320 JR> I do get my mail and have NO bad PACKETS. JR> No grunges or corruptions..just this. JR> Like I said, no other problems but this.... i wish i could say that .. with me the modem at the otherend hangs up and i have to keep retrying. recently i made a small breakthrough, i forced my courier to negotiate at 14k4, this has seemed to work. i get a stable circuit and can transfer data. as i said before this is a strange one .. the copper in our local loops will support up to 33k6 as will the exchange equipment, but our modems just don't want to connect and or transfer data at any rate .. well for the moment 14k4 is working. i have tried another modem on the circuit, my old microcom deskporte fast plus, it used to work a treat at 28k8 .. nit the courier, and i cannot work out why. JR> I have tried Locking BNU and not locking..it makes no JR> diference...Modem strings all over....my sysop has looked at mt JR> settings and sees no problem..this leaves the telephone company and JR> they tell me we are Copper all the way. same here .. my telco has checked out the copper in both of our local loops, funnily enough they use usr couriers (because of the diagnostics) to do line testing with for those people like myself who have modems and complain about 'poor quality lines'. anyway, the tech that does the line test experiences the same problem. yet any other of this services clients (they use similar chaep modems) don't have any problems .. just me and my courier, well and the telco tester as well. regards ... jonathan EMail: jlm@caamora.com.au ... i do all i can, with what i have, are you able to say the same ? --- * Origin: Fire&Ice CBCS +61 2 9-317-2184 - USR Courier v34+&hst (3:712/808)