--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 275 GUNS Ref: DB400062 Date: 06/30/96 From: JOHN DUKE Time: 11:48am \/To: PAUL NIXON (Read 2 times) Subj: Another anti-gun site PNwant to have happen is to have the burglar become frustrated with the quality of merchandise you have to offer. This seminar will let you know how much cash to have on hand, what brands of TVs, VCR, and cameras will provide the criminal with the greatest degree of Liberals allways step in it.. I wonder if he wrote that on a xt? What BS John Duke KE4TQP john.duke@nashville.com * 1st 2.00n #2317bt * Hollowpoints; When you care enough to send the very best --- QScan/PCB v1.16b / 01-0118 * Origin: The Digital Rodent - v.fc/ISDN - 615-865-9509 (1:116/125) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 275 GUNS Ref: DB400063 Date: 07/01/96 From: MAX LAKE Time: 02:05pm \/To: MITCH MARMEL (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: Self Defense MM> OTOH, anybody can get a Florida CCW permit, even an NYC resident. Bye, MM> bye, Sullivan Law... :) How will that affect the Sullivan law? --- * OFFLINE 1.56 * The older you get, the smarter your parents become. --- QScan/PCB v1.19b / 01-0530 * Origin: Collector's Edition * Dallas, TX * 214-351-6548 (1:124/2143) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 275 GUNS Ref: DB400064 Date: 07/01/96 From: MAX LAKE Time: 02:05pm \/To: JOHN PERZ (Read 2 times) Subj: Plastic JP> -> You sign a credit card form, which usually lists the purchase; JP> -> sometimes in an exact description, sometimes not. The Credit JP> -> Card Company gets that piece of paper. Ernie P. JP> JP> I figured they'd get more than just a date and a dollar amount, JP> otherwise why bother? The vreit card company is in the money business, all they are interested in is how much to bill you. They don't care what it was for. --- * OFFLINE 1.56 * * Curmudgeon: Someone who says what others think.. --- QScan/PCB v1.19b / 01-0530 * Origin: Collector's Edition * Dallas, TX * 214-351-6548 (1:124/2143) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 275 GUNS Ref: DB400065 Date: 06/28/96 From: EARNEST PADGETTE Time: 07:02pm \/To: GREER BRAXTLE (Read 2 times) Subj: Alert (clip) GB> Have the sponsers manually TYPE the entire bill in by hand without allowin GB>them to delegate the work. That'll keep the bills short, GB>sweet, to the point. And they cannot say they didn't know GB>what they were doing ... Won't work, I'm afraid. We have people around here who can't even remember who hired them; or details about why they lied to their diaries. Heck, Bill himself can't even remember if he's a conservative or liberal, from one day to the next. Ernie P. ___ X SLMR 2.1a X I was born free; I WILL die free. --- Maximus/2 2.02 * Origin: Air 'n Sun 703-765-0822 Bang, bang, shoo-oo-oot shoot! (1:109/120) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 275 GUNS Ref: DB400066 Date: 06/28/96 From: EARNEST PADGETTE Time: 07:09pm \/To: DAN ARICO (Read 2 times) Subj: Twilight zone stuff (clip) DA>Whether the feds were actively involved in these bombings or not, they DA>have certainly taken advantage of them to expand their police powers. DA>There is evidence that they might have known about the World Trade DA>Center bombing ahead of time. Whether they simply let it go ahead, DA>screwed up a sting operation or were oblivious to the implications of DA>what was going on, they certainly played it for everything it was worth DA>*after* the fact. No argument there; but that's a long way from believing the feds blew up things themselves. EP (clip) DA>EP> And my wife burned the gravy. EP DA>I can see it now - Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Gravy. DA>___ Yep. Wonder if she'll be charged with being part of the Hegelian dielectric process; a dupe intent upon bringing death, burned gravy and torture down on the heads of innocent American children; not a real man; and a bad cook. She *IS* a life member of NRA, after all. Sometimes I wonder Dan; sometimes I wonder. You keep up the good fight, guy. Regards; Ernie P. ___ X SLMR 2.1a X I was born free; I WILL die free. --- Maximus/2 2.02 * Origin: Air 'n Sun 703-765-0822 Bang, bang, shoo-oo-oot shoot! (1:109/120) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 275 GUNS Ref: DB400067 Date: 06/29/96 From: EARNEST PADGETTE Time: 12:02am \/To: HTOM TRITES (Read 2 times) Subj: Congressional Blather (clip) HT>Well, they could start by publishing the final form of the bills before HT>they are voted on, say 14 days before. If they want to change it, that's HT>fine, they have to make the changes, and then publish the entire thing HT>again, and wait another 14 days. Not a bad idea. Let them have a waiting period *for* legislation, instead of the other way round. EP HT>But since a bare majority in either house can split a bill into parts, HT>there's little need for such. They don't need to be made to do things HT>properly, because they can. They need to *want to do them this way -- HT>and then it wouldn't matter if they did or not! That's the key. If they want to, any rules will do. If they don't want to, no rule is good enough to stop them. Responsibility and self discipline goes a long way. Ernie P. ___ X SLMR 2.1a X I was born free; I WILL die free. --- Maximus/2 2.02 * Origin: Air 'n Sun 703-765-0822 Bang, bang, shoo-oo-oot shoot! (1:109/120) NP>EP>GP>What we have here is evidence that agents of the US gov't blew up NP>EP>GP>both these buildings & killed all those people. Now this was NP>EP>GP>Klinton/Reno's excuse for the Terror Bill, that NRA supported. NP>EP> I think you're wrong on both counts; but lets wait until the NP>EP> facts come out to pass judgement. EP NP>I *know* he's right on the second account. The NRA's been quite vocal NP>in the American Hunter about supporting the Terrorist Bill and making it NP>law. Complete with implications that "real americans" support it, and NP>if you don't, you're evil, stupid, anti-american, etc. NP>The facts *are* out, judgment stands. The NRA *IS* guilty. I meant I thought he was wrong about the government blowing up those buildings. And I still do. As to anyone implicating that those who disagree with them are "evil, stupid, anti-American, etc.,."; I disagree with your statement. The NRA didn't use those words. They have been used, right around here in fact, but the NRA didn't use them. Now where did I hear someone indicating those not agreeing with them are any of those things???? EP NP>EP> I think we're going to have to ATD on this one. I don't NP>EP> believe the government is actively burning churches, and I'm NP>EP> not a believer in the "big plot" theories. We have a NP>EP> government on the edge of going out of control; but they're NP>EP> not socialist conspirators. It's just the nature of the beast NP>EP> that it requires being taught to heel occasionally. Ernie P. NP>Not socialist conspirators? How would you explain the US government NP>decisions to put back a neck-tieing dictator in Haiti? How would you NP>explain the attempted 1983 meeting on board the USS John F. Kennedy with NP>Idi Amein (sp) to "reestablish diplomatic relations" as well as to NP>possibly place him back in power? How would you explain the bay of pigs NP>down in Cuba? NP>How especially would you explain the continuous and ever expanding role NP>of government in our personal lives? Where your property isn't NP>necessarily your property anymore if the EPA, DOT, USFW or any of NP>several others decide they know better then you about your yard? The NP>ever tightening of gun control laws? Laws being made when the majority NP>oppose the bill? Mandated health care laws, mandated family leave act, NP>the disabilities act, the decency act? NP>If that isn't socialistic, just what on earth do you think socialism is? NP>--- I agree the U.S. government, and our society, is far too socialistic for my taste. That doesn't mean I believe there's some grand conspiracy being played out by dark forces intent on world domination. The answer to your question is the guy next to you in the street; who is convinced he can get something more from the government than whatever he pays in. It isn't a conspiracy, Nolan; it's simple greed. Ernie P. ___ X SLMR 2.1a X I was born free; I WILL die free. --- Maximus/2 2.02 * Origin: Air 'n Sun 703-765-0822 Bang, bang, shoo-oo-oot shoot! (1:109/120) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 275 GUNS Ref: DB400068 Date: 06/29/96 From: EARNEST PADGETTE Time: 12:19am \/To: NOLAN PENNEY (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: nra NP>EP>GP>What we have here is evidence that agents of the US gov't blew up NP>EP>GP>both these buildings & killed all those people. Now this was NP>EP>GP>Klinton/Reno's excuse for the Terror Bill, that NRA supported. NP>EP> I think you're wrong on both counts; but lets wait until the NP>EP> facts come out to pass judgement. EP NP>I *know* he's right on the second account. The NRA's been quite vocal NP>in the American Hunter about supporting the Terrorist Bill and making it NP>law. Complete with implications that "real americans" support it, and NP>if you don't, you're evil, stupid, anti-american, etc. NP>The facts *are* out, judgment stands. The NRA *IS* guilty. I meant I thought he was wrong about the government blowing up those buildings. And I still do. As to anyone implicating that those who disagree with them are "evil, stupid, anti-American, etc.,."; I disagree with your statement. The NRA didn't use those words. They have been used, right around here in fact, but the NRA didn't use them. Now where did I hear someone indicating those not agreeing with them are any of those things???? EP NP>EP> I think we're going to have to ATD on this one. I don't NP>EP> believe the government is actively burning churches, and I'm NP>EP> not a believer in the "big plot" theories. We have a NP>EP> government on the edge of going out of control; but they're NP>EP> not socialist conspirators. It's just the nature of the beast NP>EP> that it requires being taught to heel occasionally. Ernie P. NP>Not socialist conspirators? How would you explain the US government NP>decisions to put back a neck-tieing dictator in Haiti? How would you NP>explain the attempted 1983 meeting on board the USS John F. Kennedy with NP>Idi Amein (sp) to "reestablish diplomatic relations" as well as to NP>possibly place him back in power? How would you explain the bay of pigs NP>down in Cuba? NP>How especially would you explain the continuous and ever expanding role NP>of government in our personal lives? Where your property isn't NP>necessarily your property anymore if the EPA, DOT, USFW or any of NP>several others decide they know better then you about your yard? The NP>ever tightening of gun control laws? Laws being made when the majority NP>oppose the bill? Mandated health care laws, mandated family leave act, NP>the disabilities act, the decency act? NP>If that isn't socialistic, just what on earth do you think socialism is? NP>--- I agree the U.S. government, and our society, is far too socialistic for my taste. That doesn't mean I believe there's some grand conspiracy being played out by dark forces intent on world domination. The answer to your question is the guy next to you in the street; who is convinced he can get something more from the government than whatever he pays in. It isn't a conspiracy, Nolan; it's simple greed. Ernie P. ___ X SLMR 2.1a X I was born free; I WILL die free. --- Maximus/2 2.02 * Origin: Air 'n Sun 703-765-0822 Bang, bang, shoo-oo-oot shoot! (1:109/120) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 275 GUNS Ref: DB400069 Date: 06/29/96 From: EARNEST PADGETTE Time: 12:23am \/To: NOLAN PENNEY (Read 2 times) Subj: Nra vote NP>EP> Anyone on the ballot has either gathered enough signatures on NP>EP> a petition, or is known personally by the Nominating NP>EP> Committee. That helps ensure a "vetting process" is working. NP>EP> As to whether the low voting percentages indicate the system NP>EP> is broken, or working just fine, is open to interpretation. NP>EP> Suggestions? Ernie P. NP>That's a "voting process"? No, that's a "vetting process". Public education is getting worse and worse. EP NP>That's not voting, that's the good ole boy system. You've got to know NP>the right people, and then you're in. Gathering petition signatures is NP>a joke with a nation wide mail order lobbying organization like the NRA. NP>Getting known personally by the Nominating Committee (yet _another_ NP>closed door secret society) shouldn't be grounds for nomination for NP>anything, other then schmoozer. Definately *not* nomination for NP>president of the organization. NP>This is your idea of a good system? A system that works? A success? NP>--- Yep. It was working just fine before you were born and will work just fine long after you're gone. Of course, you're welcome to come change it. You and 50,000 others who think like you do; and you're a shoo-in for the board. See you at the first board meeting in 1997? Ernie P. ___ X SLMR 2.1a X I was born free; I WILL die free. --- Maximus/2 2.02 * Origin: Air 'n Sun 703-765-0822 Bang, bang, shoo-oo-oot shoot! (1:109/120) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 275 GUNS Ref: DB400070 Date: 07/01/96 From: DAN ARICO Time: 10:53am \/To: RICHARD K. FOLEY (Read 2 times) Subj: Okc Bombing RF> Sure .. I WAS THERE ... YOU WERE NOT ... and I have received -NO RF> PROOF- nor have I seen any -DOCUMENTATION- as to MARTIAL LAW or an RF> ATTACK on the CITY or even PART OF THE CITY!! I never saw any claim to martial law or any claim that it was anything other than a training exercise. ___ X RM 1.3 02881 X It takes a government to raze a village. --- Maximus/2 2.02 * Origin: Air 'n Sun 703-765-0822 Bang, bang, shoo-oo-oot shoot! (1:109/120) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 275 GUNS Ref: DB400071 Date: 07/01/96 From: DAN ARICO Time: 10:10am \/To: ALL (Read 2 times) Subj: Surprise! Just when I think I've got all the palyers neatly catalogued and tagged, something always comes along to surprise me. On Friday, the Washington Post (Yeah, *that* liberal rag) ran an article on the upcoming Olympics highlighting the *shooting* events. It's a full page article showing some of the guns and outlining the types of events. They finish up with a small sketch on several shooters from the DC area who will be competing. ___ X RM 1.3 02881 X Thank you for not sharing your feelings. --- Maximus/2 2.02 * Origin: Air 'n Sun 703-765-0822 Bang, bang, shoo-oo-oot shoot! (1:109/120)