--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 275 GUNS Ref: DAT00009 Date: 06/23/96 From: TURIYAN GOLD Time: 02:27am \/To: RD THOMPSON (Read 3 times) Subj: guns ::To:Rd From:Steve Subject:Dusters? -Turiyan is always right. 06-19-96 10:37 RT> Arizona has a great open carry, but it is not unlimited. You cannot RT> carry in any federal building, courthouse, post office, bar, school, RT> polling place, etc.. Actually, the only difference between open RT> carry and concealed carry is *how* you carry. Damn! What fun is that..... :-( ... OXYMORON: Market oriented, democratic system ___ CovertADI/QWK v2.12 --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: The Dark Side of Town ! * Florida * 813/585-2934 (1:3603/361.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 275 GUNS Ref: DAT00010 Date: 06/23/96 From: TURIYAN GOLD Time: 02:30am \/To: JOHN SANDOW (Read 3 times) Subj: Re: high tech rounds/\/\ ::To:John From:Wyatt Subject:Re: high tech rounds/\/\ -Turiyan is always right. 06-16-96 21:21 WD>@MSGID: 0017d9e8 JS> At 158gr, that's a heavy defense load, deeper penetration than typical JS> home defense stuff (ie 125gr JHP). Police loads maybe. I know the JS> pistol chamberings for the SXT were of this weight, but the revolver JS> loads in the Black Talon/SXT were definately heavier penetrating than JS> the pistol ammo. Almost taylor made for handgun hunting. BT's were a 180 grain JHP in .357 (I must be on R/O) ... "When everybody's out to get you, paranoia is just good thinking." ___ CovertADI/QWK v2.12 --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: The Dark Side of Town ! * Florida * 813/585-2934 (1:3603/361.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 275 GUNS Ref: DAT00011 Date: 06/23/96 From: TURIYAN GOLD Time: 02:41am \/To: MARK LOGSDON (Read 3 times) Subj: RAPO ::To:Mark From:Dave Subject:carry extra ammo? -Turiyan is always right. 06-13-96 11:45 -> > I can sympathize with your plight, but what would you have the -> police > do when a woman simply claimed that she was being or felt -> threatened? -> Unless the police have some kind of evidence that harm was done, the -> most they can do is tell the threatener to go away, and make a report ML> There's always the possibility of an unscrupulous woman using this as ML> clout for blackmail or revenge when no violence was ever intended or ML> done. Its called RAPO. ML> I certainly believe we need to protect defenseless women, but I do ML> have a problem with prosecuting a person for what another person THINKS ML> that person might or could do. We should swiftly and severely punish Happens all the time my friend. Besides, I think I saw that on 60 minutes. So it has to be true. ... "Be extremely subtle, even to the point of formlessness." Sun Tzu ___ CovertADI/QWK v2.12 --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: The Dark Side of Town ! * Florida * 813/585-2934 (1:3603/361.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 275 GUNS Ref: DAT00012 Date: 06/23/96 From: TURIYAN GOLD Time: 02:44am \/To: MARK LOGSDON (Read 3 times) Subj: laws ::To:Mark From:Dave Subject:carry extra ammo? -Turiyan is always right. 06-13-96 18:51 ML> There are different ways of dealing with this problem. First of ML> all, it is probably disorderly conduct or disturbing the peace in ML> most localities or states. It certainly does not merit 20 to 30 ML> years at hard labor in a federal prison. You call packing fudge hard labor? ML> Some victims might even employ their own "methods" that might be ML> considered vigilantism. I'm not saying I would do that, nor am I "Go ahead, make my day." ML> saying I would advocate that; however, many Americans are ML> resourceful and won't go crying first to the government for help. ML> Perhaps that's why we have so much crime (because people first look ML> to government to solve their problems). Just wait until they realise that government IS the problem. 'politics is power (control) over (personal) property' ML> Finally, this sort of action could well be resolved as a civil ML> action. I can't imagine any credible judge not issuing a ML> restraining order against such reprehensible conduct as you ML> described. If the judge tolerates it, then that judge is very much ML> part of the problem. Dont death threats fall under the FBI's juridiction? ... "You can't break the rules, untill you know them." _Sonny Crockett_ ___ CovertADI/QWK v2.12 --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: The Dark Side of Town ! * Florida * 813/585-2934 (1:3603/361.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 275 GUNS Ref: DAT00013 Date: 06/23/96 From: TURIYAN GOLD Time: 02:46am \/To: MATT SMITH (Read 3 times) Subj: Re: Doctors in the jungle ::To:Matt From:Jackson Subject:Re: Doctors in the jungle -Turiyan is always rig t. 06-18-96 21:01 JD> During breaks in their medical endeavors, the doctors from the U.S. JD> relaxed by riding horses and *banging away at targets with Dr. JD> Batista's Brazilian made Winchester.* Evidently the medical What? JD> community is not wholly united in its front to end private gun JD> ownership. MS> Doctors, like most professions, aren't united about _any_ MS> political agenda! ??? Aspartame, Chelation MS> Look at how doctors are split over Hillarycare. The only MS> "consensus" among doctors, other than moneymaking, is among those MS> doctors whose careers are in academia. I can not comment on this subject. ... Famous last words:"I hate Sicilians" _Mussolini_ ___ CovertADI/QWK v2.12 --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: The Dark Side of Town ! * Florida * 813/585-2934 (1:3603/361.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 275 GUNS Ref: DAT00014 Date: 06/23/96 From: TURIYAN GOLD Time: 02:48am \/To: MATT SMITH (Read 3 times) Subj: Re: H&K USP ::To:Matt From:John Subject:Re: H&K USP -Turiyan is always right. 06-20-96 22:49 JS> I'll probably be flamed for this, but I see the USP as a very viable JS> evolution of the 1911 for the year 2000. I'm sure there are some JS> preferred features of the 1911 over the USP, but you can't beat the JS> performance! :-) Well, from what I know. The USP can feed modern ammo reliably. Which cannot be said for the 1911... MS> I've only read about it. Have you seen or shot one? Yes. Saw a 6 pointer the other day. Real big bore. Musta been a prototype. I could hear the gritty trigger a mile away. I scoped it in and blam. Tastes just like chicken. ... Oxymoron: Corporation for Public Broadcasting. ___ CovertADI/QWK v2.12 --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: The Dark Side of Town ! * Florida * 813/585-2934 (1:3603/361.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 275 GUNS Ref: DAT00015 Date: 06/23/96 From: PAUL NIXON Time: 06:50am \/To: DENNIS JENKINS (Read 3 times) Subj: cats DJ> I guess I need to start coon hunting. Sounds like a job for a nice quiet stealth .22... --- FMail 1.02 * Origin: CyberSupport Hq/Co.A PRN/SURV/FIDO+ (602)231-9377 (1:114/428) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 275 GUNS Ref: DAT00016 Date: 06/23/96 From: PAUL NIXON Time: 06:50am \/To: JOHN PERZ (Read 3 times) Subj: Firearm Paranoia -> JP> Parkerized is a non-reflective light-to-medium gray, Paul, not -> black. -> Uh...hmmm. What dat is the flat black lookin' finish? JP> Damifino, Paul. But I've been shooting DCM Garands and the metal is JP> light gray, not black. Gotta be somebody here-a-bouts what can answer this. The last NIB Colt Commander I bought was a flat black, the dealer referred dto it as "parkerized." Is "parkerized" one specific finish, or a generic term indicating a class of finishes, or ??? --- FMail 1.02 * Origin: CyberSupport Hq/Co.A PRN/SURV/FIDO+ (602)231-9377 (1:114/428) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 275 GUNS Ref: DAT00017 Date: 06/23/96 From: PAUL NIXON Time: 06:50am \/To: JOHN SANDOW (Read 3 times) Subj: guns and how they go JS> Robert Heinlein, affirmed cat lover and grandious cat name giver, if JS> my memory serves right, once indicated of having no compunction of JS> shooting feral cats, while at the same time would protect his own cats JS> to the nth degree. He would of course begin protecting them by not JS> letting them out where they could get into trouble in the first place. (I'm working without a net here) "Grumbles from Beyond the Grave," the first book published by Baen after the master's death, described his being unhappy at the necessity of having to kill a feral cat that was harrasing his own. This was at the time of his building his own house in Colorado. His attitude towards cats comes through pretty well, imo, in "The Door Into Summer," wherein he describes his cat as refusing to go outside until it had attempted to find the "correct" door during inclement weather. Oh, the on-topic part: in the description of Heinlein shooting the feral cat he used a handgun, as I recall a .45, and mentioned he was pleased his accuracy was adequate to the job. AAMOF it was his ability to shoot that resulted in the invention of the waterbed, but that's a story for another conference. --- FMail 1.02 * Origin: CyberSupport Hq/Co.A PRN/SURV/FIDO+ (602)231-9377 (1:114/428) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 275 GUNS Ref: DAT00018 Date: 06/23/96 From: PAUL NIXON Time: 06:50am \/To: JEFF TAPKE (Read 3 times) Subj: kevlar vests JT> I, too, am a firearms intructor, avid reloader and plinker. I tend to JT> be a wee bit better shot then most. But most, suck. "Most" cops or people? --- FMail 1.02 * Origin: CyberSupport Hq/Co.A PRN/SURV/FIDO+ (602)231-9377 (1:114/428)