--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 275 GUNS Ref: D5U00029 Date: 05/24/96 From: WYATT DOOLEY Time: 02:02am \/To: DAVID R. NORTON (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: .22 Rifle DRN< What I said, it's too complicated to figure with out taking off my DRN< shoes. there's still too many uncalculated variables. first you have to stop the rotation of the earth then you have to stop the wind ect ect... so theory will not even get you close... * OLX 2.2 TD * vote Democrat it's easier than finding a job. --- PCBoard (R) v15.22/2 * Origin: The Fishin' Hole BBS 501-794-4072 (1:3821/102) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 275 GUNS Ref: D5U00030 Date: 05/24/96 From: WYATT DOOLEY Time: 02:02am \/To: JEFF TAPKE (Read 2 times) Subj: Exploding Bullets JT< I suppose you don't use any grey poupon either? JT< Fer crying out loud, have you NO social graces??? JT< I suspect, even though off in the distance Mr. Appel may be chuckling over JT< this, we do stray a bit far afield, so, next time you pass through Illinoi JT< let me know and I'll grill the possum. Please tell me your joking... I'd have to be starving before I'd try eating an Arkansas Speed Bump. I do know people who have eaten these filthy animals but it was all they had at the time. I lost my appitite when I smelled it cooking and saw the grease. Possum on the half shell is another story however. diller aint half bad. * OLX 2.2 TD * vote Democrat it's easier than finding a job. --- PCBoard (R) v15.22/2 * Origin: The Fishin' Hole BBS 501-794-4072 (1:3821/102) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 275 GUNS Ref: D5V00000 Date: 05/24/96 From: GREG NICHOLLS Time: 03:43pm \/To: PAUL NIXON (Read 2 times) Subj: P.I.S.S.O.F.F. -> I think you invented a new tagline: -> ... People Ignoring Stupid Sissies Or Foolish Fairies:PISSOFF! A group of us here in Calgary formed a small group to shoot IPSC style shotgun matches a few years ago and named it P.I.S.S.O.F.F. Politically Incorrect Shotgun Shooters Organized For Fun. Regards. GSN. greg.nicholls@bbs.logicnet.com --- PCBoard 15.2 * Origin: 32 lines 40 Gig BBS, Realtime InterNet SLIP (403)299-9900 (1:134/10) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 275 GUNS Ref: D5V00001 Date: 05/21/96 From: JOHN SANDOW Time: 09:37pm \/To: VERN HUMPHREY (Read 2 times) Subj: guns VH>JS>VH>PN> Uh, the .45 or '06 part? VH>JS>VH>As Saint Townsend Whelan said "The .30-06 is never a mistake." :-) VH>JS>Then why did he see it necessary to neck it up to .35"? Or was he just VH>JS>having a sandow moment? VH>He didn't. Some of his cohorts at Springfield were messing around and VH>necked up the .30-06, and decided to call it the ".35 Whelen" -- VH>probably on the theory that the prestige of his name would help promote VH>it. Actually, I see a fair bit of reason to be messing around with the 30.06 cartridge. As long as you can get 30.06 brass, and assuming you have the propre dies to begin with, you'll always be able to get brass for your rifle, inlike, say, 30-40 Krag, which while not obscure, is probably not going to be stocked in some Montana fishing camp with a seasonal population of 12... :-) SLMR 2.0 If the bear drops dead immediately, you have no problem. * LAKOTA v1.5 --- Alexi/Mail 2.02 (#10000) * Origin: -= N I G H T L I N E =- Home Of GameNet '95 (1:115/815) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 275 GUNS Ref: D5V00002 Date: 05/21/96 From: JOHN SANDOW Time: 09:38pm \/To: VERN HUMPHREY (Read 2 times) Subj: Guns VH>JS>JP>Rockland counties would keep the name New York and the rest of us would VH>JS>JP>become the 51st state as West New York or North New York or atever. VH>JS>I'd rather see it secede from the union, and become a territory, along VH>JS>with DC. I'd like to see the capital moved the the center of the ation VH>JS>as well. VH>Why? What did Kansas do to piss you off? :-) Nothing. I just figure instead of the white house building, we'd have this big while trailer home. You know, put the weather to good use... SLMR 2.0 If you lived with Sarah Brady you'd look like that too. * LAKOTA v1.5 --- Alexi/Mail 2.02 (#10000) * Origin: -= N I G H T L I N E =- Home Of GameNet '95 (1:115/815) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 275 GUNS Ref: D5V00003 Date: 05/21/96 From: JOHN SANDOW Time: 09:40pm \/To: STEVE GUNHOUSE (Read 2 times) Subj: Guns SG> -=> Quoting John Sandow to Steve Gunhouse on 14 May 96 21:28 <=- SG> Re: Guns SG> SG>Next question: how well braced was he when he fired it? As near as I can SG> SG>guesstimate, while it is firing at 2100 rpm it generates about 80 SG> SG>horsepower! SG> JS> 2750 pounds accelerated to one fps, or about 5 hp, assuming 100 ounds SG> JS> per second, 3500 fps for the ammo (the jungle was hot, remember), and SG> JS> a 55gr bullet. SG> JS> I like the idea of 29gr .22shorts better, for controllability. SG>For controllability, I like the idea of a semi-auto better! I can't SG>imagine several hundred .22 shorts being that much more effective than a SG>few well-placed .223s. :-O Yeah yeah yeah, but the subject _is_ full auto. Not like I'm ever going to do anything like this in real life... I agree though, or 7.62, or #00 buck, or 10mm, etc... :-) SLMR 2.0 If you pull the wings off a fly, does it become a walk? * LAKOTA v1.5 --- Alexi/Mail 2.02 (#10000) * Origin: -= N I G H T L I N E =- Home Of GameNet '95 (1:115/815) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 275 GUNS Ref: D5V00004 Date: 05/21/96 From: JOHN SANDOW Time: 09:41pm \/To: VERN HUMPHREY (Read 2 times) Subj: 10mm .40 & the FBI VH>JS>VH>John, if I gave you .40 S&Ws, it would only encourage you in your VH>JS>VH>error. I wouldn't want that on my conscience. :-) VH>JS>Bless you my son. :-) VH>Et cum sprito tu tuo. :-) Rana este magna. :-) SLMR 2.0 It is completely unimportant. That's why it's interesting * LAKOTA v1.5 --- Alexi/Mail 2.02 (#10000) * Origin: -= N I G H T L I N E =- Home Of GameNet '95 (1:115/815) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 275 GUNS Ref: D5V00005 Date: 05/21/96 From: JOHN SANDOW Time: 09:45pm \/To: BRIAN SAWYERS (Read 2 times) Subj: 10mm .40 & the FBI BS>Hello John! BS>04 May 96 20:34, John Sandow wrote to Ken Grubb: BS> KG>> .357 SIG, then .400 Cor-Bon, now .32-380. BS> JS> .400 Cor-Bon? Ken, what have I missed? What is this? BS>It's a .45 necked down to .40, 135gr projectile at 1400-some FPS. You're BS>already there with the standard .40 case, John. :^) Yeah, but I like this idea... Actually, I would like to one day develop a cartridge using a 7.62x39 trimmed off just past the shoulder, then fireformed to take a .400" ID bullet. I'm looking for something to really rival the .41 mag in energy with the heavier bullets. Pistol would probably be prohibitively heavy, at least for a combat type pistol. SLMR 2.0 It's not "gun control"...it's "victim disarmament"! * LAKOTA v1.5 --- Alexi/Mail 2.02 (#10000) * Origin: -= N I G H T L I N E =- Home Of GameNet '95 (1:115/815) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 275 GUNS Ref: D5V00006 Date: 05/21/96 From: JOHN SANDOW Time: 09:49pm \/To: VERN HUMPHREY (Read 2 times) Subj: 106mm R.R. VH>JS>VH>JS>That's exactly what they did with M72's in basic. Toothpicks is jus VH>JS>VH>JS>about the right definition, I would not have beleived it otherwise. VH>JS>VH>The backblast from an M72 LAW isn't a patch on a 106's backblast. ) VH>JS>Gosh. at only about 1/6 the velocity and half the weight I'd imagine VH>JS>not. Maybe that's what the Jackal should have used... VH>Good choice. It would have taken care of DeGaulle AND what's-his-face, VH>the detective with the same shot -- one with a squash head round, the VH>other with the backblast. Oh. I just meant using the BB on DeGaulle. Sneaking a 106 in that close would be a little tricky though I guess. :-) VH>JS>Huh. I've not even seen one of these. Unca Sam doesn't invite me over VH>JS>for demos anymore. I wonder, does Jane's make a small arms annual? VH>I shot a bunch of them in Singapore (they use it, too) and I have a VH>training version, with the 9mm rifle inside. AR-15? I shot one a few years ago, printed about an inch group at 25 yards, nothing to crow about, but I swear, there were these two 'military' type who rented it just after me (factory shoot), and we are talking 3-4" groups at 10 yards. I was just happy I remembered how to work the thing... SLMR 2.0 It's obvious that you don't survive by your wits alone. * LAKOTA v1.5 --- Alexi/Mail 2.02 (#10000) * Origin: -= N I G H T L I N E =- Home Of GameNet '95 (1:115/815) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 275 GUNS Ref: D5V00007 Date: 05/21/96 From: JOHN SANDOW Time: 09:52pm \/To: VERN HUMPHREY (Read 2 times) Subj: A Rose By Any Other Name VH>JS>VH>Not in a real shootout -- but I can imagine on a range, there might be VH>JS>VH>some interesting incidents. You'd want to be real sure all slides were VH>JS>VH>locked back before allowing anyone down range. :-) VH>JS>They do that anyway even on ranges where one round every 30 seconds seems VH>JS>fast. I concur. Beat the heack out of anything and wierd stuff happens. VH>I have been on ranges that were run "informally" to say the least -- VH>from now on, if I see a P7 on the line, I'll check before going VH>downrange. Yeah, I kind of wish I could open up on the range up at bristol sometimes, but it's a 25 yard fixed, and the only thing I could really open up with and still hit anything at that range still would be the 10/22 with the new bull barrel. I haven't yet really run it through fast yet, it should be fun though, with the trigger stops in place and more mass on the barrel, follow up shots should come pretty quick. SLMR 2.0 Jesus saves sinners... & redeems them for valuable prizes * LAKOTA v1.5 --- Alexi/Mail 2.02 (#10000) * Origin: -= N I G H T L I N E =- Home Of GameNet '95 (1:115/815)