--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 275 GUNS Ref: D5S00009 Date: 05/17/96 From: JOHN SANDOW Time: 06:44pm \/To: JOHN ACETO (Read 2 times) Subj: Remington Lawsuit? JA> Where you been? Caught me offguard with a reply to a message Floundering. :-) JA> from a little while ago. ;-) Yeah, now you know how my folks feel. :-) JA> JA> He got his third, Remington settled out of court. JA> JS> FWIW- I've got no qualms about firing my 870 with any factory JA> JS> ammo or reasonable reload. JA> Mine has been nothing but a workhorse (and a good one). I'd still like to be able to cycle 3" rounds, but there are some pretty hot 2 3/4" ones out there that haven't let me down yet. Then again, I don't hunt with steel shot... :-/ JA> JS> It's quite possible given me fewer problems than any other JA> JS> firearm I've owned, notably excepting the HK of course. :-) JA> Mine has been great. Never tried shooting it with snow or mud JA> in the barrel though. I've been tempted to remove the shot, leave the wad in, and drop in about 7/8 ounce worth of 5/8 dowel rod... :-) Haven't gotten that brave (or stupid) yet though... JA> the brrech end. I then pulled it through to the muzzle and the JA> barrel came out "clean as a whistle". AAMOF, it shined so nice, JA> my neighbor decided to "clean" his too. When rebuilding sterilizer doors, I have to take out the centerpost which is about 15" long, and maybe 13/16" and 5/8" diameter. A 12ga and a 16ga bore brush (with a bottle of Hoppe's of course) clean them out great. One of the other service guys saw me do this (he happened to be a shooter) and cracked up when he saw this. :-) SLMR 2.0 Jesus SAVES! He passes to Moses. He shoots, He Scores! * LAKOTA v1.5 --- Alexi/Mail 2.02 (#10000) * Origin: -= N I G H T L I N E =- Home Of GameNet '95 (1:115/815) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 275 GUNS Ref: D5S00010 Date: 05/17/96 From: JOHN SANDOW Time: 07:02pm \/To: JEFF TROWBRIDGE (Read 2 times) Subj: Decocker vs DAO JT>First the good news, My other half has agreed to buy me a pistol JT>when I've made it 60 days without cigarettes. (July 13th). I've JT>selceted a Ruger P95. I've always been a wheelgun fan but JT>decided it was time to try a semi-auto. This thing comes in JT>decocker version or double action only. I have no idea what the JT>difference is, and have only shout a semi-auot pistol once in my JT>life (about 3 years ago). Double action refers to the act of cocking the hammer and releasing it, as you would do with a revolver. Double action only (DAO) means you have to do this every time. You cannot fire the pistol in single action mode, which is only releasing the hammer, after it has been cocked either manually or from the slide cocking it from a previous shot. Double action trigger pulls require about 12 pounds of pull, single actions about 5-6 pounds. The other version of the gun, with the decocker, is a traditional double action (DA). This means that after the first shot, the slide will cycle and cock the hammer for you, allowing use of the gun in single action (SA) trigger mode. SA is easier to fire with because of the lighter trigger pull needed. The decocker is featured so you can let the hammer down after chambering a round without pulling the trigger and manually lowering the hammer. This is a safety feature, but should never be trusted completely: always decock the gun while pointing the muzzle in a safe direction. The advantages to a DAO mode are thus: No need to decock after chambering a round. Consistant 12# pull every time. The added resistance of a 12# pull every time means less chance of an accidental discharge, a possible benefit if you are used to double action trigger pulls from revolver shooting. Disadvantages: Heavy trigger pull makes fun shooting less enjoyable and a bit harder to shoot accurately quickly, unless well practiced. The Advantages of a DA with decocker are: Single action firing mode, like the colt 1911, after the first shot, or if you cock the hammer on the first shot, while allowing you the safety of a heavier double action trigger on that first pull. Disadvantages: Most folks tend to carry these guns in condition 2: round chambered, hammer down. This means a quick draw and fire would means a double action pull first, then transitioning to a single action pull thereafter. Some folks hate this. I've gotten so used to it I don't even notice it. I've got 3 DA's, 1 SA, and one DAO pistol. The DAO is a little backup .380, and I think it is perfectly suited for this task. For regular shooting, I think the traditional DA pistols are perfect for the task, for me. I also think a standard DA is more versatile. For a standard combat pistol, I think the DA function is perfectly acceptable, but it is a personal thing. If you are the kind of person willing to try to adapt, to different things, I can pretty much say you will enjoy a DA pistol just fine. And in case you haven't taken a look at the S&W 909 or 910 series pistols, I think you should do so before making a decision. These are some excellent pistols for the money, if you like the ergonomics. Good luck! SLMR 2.0 Keep clothes & guns where you can find them in the dark. * LAKOTA v1.5 --- Alexi/Mail 2.02 (#10000) * Origin: -= N I G H T L I N E =- Home Of GameNet '95 (1:115/815) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 275 GUNS Ref: D5S00011 Date: 05/17/96 From: JOHN SANDOW Time: 07:08pm \/To: JOHN PERZ (Read 2 times) Subj: Bathtub Guns JP>While reading the newspaper today, I caught an ad for a movie with JP>Pamela Lee Anderson. The ad showed her in a bubble-bath, raising and JP>aiming a (Glock?) JP>It suddenly struck me that **I** don't have a bathtub gun and that **I** JP>am completely vulnerable while bathing! JP>So what do the rest of you guys use for tub-guns? The S&W 411 usually. While not waterproof, I don't soak it, and I don't use bubble bath, so the gun stays pretty clean and dry. If I had to optomise, I'd use the HK USP40. Occasionally, the stainless amt backup will accompany me on the far shelf in the shower. JP>Is the barrel on a Glock stainless? Should I use a stainless revolver? JP>What about lubrication? Maybe one of those teflon gun coatings? Stainless revolver would be good, I'd think a glock should be good too, if you don't leave the gun wet. Just lay it out on a guest towel, and fold one layer of cloth over it to keep the excess condensation and stray spray off of it. JP>I'm not gonna be able to bathe until I get this set up . . . It's the showering which is harder... Ideally, a compact stainless .44special with neoprene or micarta grips. I'm going to get my Astra A-75 robarized soon I think, and with the custom micarta grips on it, it'll be an ideal bathroom pistol. :-) SLMR 2.0 Keep your powder dry and your balls handy. * LAKOTA v1.5 --- Alexi/Mail 2.02 (#10000) * Origin: -= N I G H T L I N E =- Home Of GameNet '95 (1:115/815) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 275 GUNS Ref: D5S00012 Date: 05/17/96 From: JOHN SANDOW Time: 07:13pm \/To: MITCH MARMEL (Read 2 times) Subj: Exploding Bullets MM>On 5/13/96, Tom Ross said to Jeff Tapke concerning Exploding Bullets: MM> JT> With this round, you wouldn't have to clean this possum, he's already, MM> JT> cleaned, and fricasseed. MM> JT> MM> TR> I wonder what the Desert Eagle .50AE with a 180 grain Magsafe round at MM> TR> 2050 fps and 1800 foot/pounds would do? :-) MM>Does the term 'aerosol' mean anything to you? :) According to "handguns" several years ago, the above round will verily disintegrate a melon. Seems they managed to shower themselves in the process. This might be the perfect solution to 'spray and pray'. :-) SLMR 2.0 KFC: "Only a rooster gets a better piece of chicken." * LAKOTA v1.5 --- Alexi/Mail 2.02 (#10000) * Origin: -= N I G H T L I N E =- Home Of GameNet '95 (1:115/815) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 275 GUNS Ref: D5S00013 Date: 05/17/96 From: JOHN SANDOW Time: 07:15pm \/To: DAN ARICO (Read 2 times) Subj: Exploding Bullets DA>JS> Vern, it was my understanding that the mercury acted as a hydraulic DA>JS> distributer of force on impact. Oil would have essentially the same DA>JS> effect. I also remember that a sheet of paper soaked in mercury DA>JS> would flame up when shot with a .22, I guess the mercury acts as an DA>JS> oxidizer or accelerant. DA>Elemental mercury won't wet paper and it's not an oxidizer so I don't DA>see how that's possible. Hmmm... Must have gotten crossed wires. I could have sworn it had some form of mercury in it. I merely saw the results (as a child). Maybe it was LOX. :-) SLMR 2.0 Klein bottle for rent. Inquire within. * LAKOTA v1.5 --- Alexi/Mail 2.02 (#10000) * Origin: -= N I G H T L I N E =- Home Of GameNet '95 (1:115/815) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 275 GUNS Ref: D5S00014 Date: 05/17/96 From: JOHN SANDOW Time: 07:18pm \/To: DICK BARNES (Read 2 times) Subj: Guns DB>JP>or smoothbore. DB> If it uses fixed cartridge ammo and is smooth bore the gov'mt DB> classes it as a sawed off shotgun. Is there any federal regulation you know of that specifies minimum rifling dimensions? Just out of curiosity of course, I would not dream of pushing my luck without the full support of all governing agencies... SLMR 2.0 License Plate Frame: My other auto is a .40 S&W * LAKOTA v1.5 --- Alexi/Mail 2.02 (#10000) * Origin: -= N I G H T L I N E =- Home Of GameNet '95 (1:115/815) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 275 GUNS Ref: D5S00015 Date: 05/17/96 From: JOHN SANDOW Time: 07:21pm \/To: JEFF TROWBRIDGE (Read 2 times) Subj: Make a Wish Foundation JT> DB> The Make a Wish foundation has granted the wish of a young oy JT> DB> (14 yrs) for a bear hunt in Alaska. The PETA types are all p JT> DB> in arms about this and many are threating to not make any ore JT> DB> donations. Fine, I'll match the average of one of their member's annual donations. What's that come out to, about $.02 per person per year? Heck, I'll match hundreds at that rate... Twits. JT>SCUM WATCH: Bravo to Make-A-Wish Minnesota. That organization has JT>endured slams from anti-hunting scumballs for it's decision to send a JT>teenager named Erik -suffering from a life threatening disease- on a JT>brown bear hunt in Alaska with his best friend, his dad. The JT>reported anti-hunting vituperation -which allegedly included hopes JT>that something bad happen to the youth to prevent him from going on JT>the hunt- got quick attention from the Wildlife Legislative Fund of JT>America, which is calling on sportsmen to donate to Make-A-Wish at JT>5201 E. River Road, Suite 309, Minneapolis, MN 55421. Safari Club JT>International's Minnesota chapter donated $4000 to Eriks wish. WOW! Maybe I'll drop them $10 in thanks for telling PETA to PISSOFF (People Ignoring Stupid Sissies Or Foolish Fairies). SLMR 2.0 "Life is like a box of Hoyt Clydewell's reloads..." * LAKOTA v1.5 --- Alexi/Mail 2.02 (#10000) * Origin: -= N I G H T L I N E =- Home Of GameNet '95 (1:115/815) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 275 GUNS Ref: D5S00016 Date: 05/17/96 From: JOHN SANDOW Time: 07:22pm \/To: DAVID R. NORTON (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: .22 Rifle DRN> -=> Quoting Dave Appel to David R. Norton <=- DRN> DA> Don't lecture me, you Harley-riding Ruger-shooting rabbit-chasing DRN> DA> old fart. I know all about gravity and terminal velocity. I DRN> DA> done jumped from airplanes 289 times! DRN> To continue the lecture, if you will use a parachute, you'll enjoy the DRN> "jumping out of an airplane" thing a LOT more, Dave. One of these days I've got to actually take him _up_ in an airplane... :-) SLMR 2.0 "Lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch..." * LAKOTA v1.5 --- Alexi/Mail 2.02 (#10000) * Origin: -= N I G H T L I N E =- Home Of GameNet '95 (1:115/815) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 275 GUNS Ref: D5S00017 Date: 05/21/96 From: JOE DUFRESNE Time: 11:55am \/To: EARNEST PADGETTE (Read 2 times) Subj: Nra EP> Well, the only magazines are the "Rifleman" and "Hunter". There EP> are a few others (like "Insights"), but they're available free EP> to kids already. NRA will stop sending the magazines if you ask Ernie, I have heard of o few other magazines offered by the NRA. couldn't the duplicates just be replaced with those? joe --- * SRP 2.00 #2737 * I before E except after C. What a weird society. --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: The Privy Ledged BBS, Kearns, Utah (801) 966-6270 (1:311/5.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 275 GUNS Ref: D5S00018 Date: 05/21/96 From: JOE DUFRESNE Time: 11:57am \/To: DAN ARICO (Read 2 times) Subj: Hathcock Moh Is Rolling! JD> Yes I do, and yes I would. It is my belief that it is wrong to JD> start a fight, but if someone attacks you you have every right to JD> defend yourself. DA>I wouldn't call you a pacifist for holding that position - just ethical. DA>Everybody else that I know who calls himself a pacifist believes that DA>violence is *always* wrong - even in self defense. As do I. I just belive that when faced with getting killed and being violent, one must choose the lesser of two evils. joe --- * SRP 2.00 #2737 * .44-40: The original "miner calibre"! --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: The Privy Ledged BBS, Kearns, Utah (801) 966-6270 (1:311/5.0)