--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 275 GUNS Ref: D5Q00004 Date: 05/19/96 From: CLOYCE OSBORN Time: 10:49am \/To: VERN HUMPHREY (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: Self Defense VH> That would probably work -- at least to the point of opening people's VH> eyes as to how what they SAY and how it could be interpreted to a jury VH> are two entirely different things. True. Painfully true. JT> VH> You might simply have someone simply burst into the room, fire a blank JT> VH> or two, run out Oddly enough, when I was in law school, we had that very thing happen. The object was to impress upon the students that "eye-witness" testimony was not always reliable. It worked. Out of 30 students, I believe we got 29 different statements as to what the "shooter" was wearing, his physical appearance, etc. VH> It would be interesting -- I've developed a lot of training on strange VH> subjects and skills in my time. Uhh, I'd kinda noticed that, Vern. VH> I'd find developing a course like that interesting. Interesting is an understatement. I think it would be fascinating. Regards. Cloyce. --- EZPoint V2.2 * Origin: Res Ipsa Loquitur, Indian Territory (1:147/34.13) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 275 GUNS Ref: D5Q00005 Date: 05/19/96 From: MICHAEL HENDERSON Time: 08:29pm \/To: VERN HUMPHREY (Read 2 times) Subj: OC Spray In your msg to Joe Dufresne, dated <18 May 96 09:31>, it said: >JD>Perhaps not. but my favorite mean trick is to find someones car >JD>and glue pennies over the keyholes. > > You're a whimp, Joe -- a REAL man would squirt Crazy Glue INSIDE the > key hole. :-) Oxyacetylene has some interesting possibilities. I mulled them over while staking out the bowling alley where some scumbags slashed all four tires on my son's pickup. A thermite grenade would have been handy, too. mdh --- RBBSMail v18.3b6 * Origin: Gas Company -Arlington, TX (817)572-0297 (1:130/37.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 275 GUNS Ref: D5Q00006 Date: 05/19/96 From: MICHAEL HENDERSON Time: 08:32pm \/To: VERN HUMPHREY (Read 2 times) Subj: Self Defense In your msg to John Perz, dated <18 May 96 09:31>, it said: >JP>The **REAL** pessimists carry an extra GUN! > > The **REAL** pessimists repeat the artillery prep before they go in. > :-) Never say "repeat" to an artilleryman when you want him to "say again". mdh --- RBBSMail v18.3b6 * Origin: Gas Company -Arlington, TX (817)572-0297 (1:130/37.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 275 GUNS Ref: D5Q00007 Date: 05/20/96 From: JEFF TAPKE Time: 12:38am \/To: VERN HUMPHREY (Read 2 times) Subj: Exploding Bullets JT>JT>and fricasseed. JT> VH> Yeah, but did it put the little paper JT> VH> doohickies on his drumsticks? :-) JT>and set the table, and poured the white wine. JT>( I allus drinks white wine with possum) VH> I never knew white wine went with possum -- am **I** embarassed!! I suppose you don't use any grey poupon either? Fer crying out loud, have you NO social graces??? I suspect, even though off in the distance Mr. Appel may be chuckling over this, we do stray a bit far afield, so, next time you pass through Illinois, let me know and I'll grill the possum. jeff --- Maximus 2.00 * Origin: The NightWatch BBS 309-963-6060 Danvers,IL (1:232/36) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 275 GUNS Ref: D5Q00008 Date: 05/20/96 From: BRIAN SAWYERS Time: 07:15pm \/To: JOHN PERZ (Read 2 times) Subj: .40S&W mach 2 plus! Hello John! 19 May 96 11:04, John Perz wrote to Brian Sawyers: JP> I don't know if they're still available or not, but years ago, JP> Glasser produced BLACK tip rounds . . . JP> They would defeat level IIa body armor. . . . JP> Between friends, I suspect this stuff John is playing with would also JP> defeat body armor, and thus might well be classified as armor JP> piercing. Don't know--though the total energy is equal to heavier, slower rounds, and the bullet is made from a JHP jacket. I would think that it would blow up on impact with body armor, but I don't have any lying around to test with, so it's purely opinion. Later, Brian. --- GoldED/386 2.50 UNREG * Origin: Strange Days412-271-0980 (1:129/278) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 275 GUNS Ref: D5Q00009 Date: 05/20/96 From: PAUL NIXON Time: 06:47am \/To: NOLAN PENNEY (Read 2 times) Subj: Unwarranted insult Nolan was returning fire at Paul about Unwarranted insult NP> So yes, I do think party R cares about what we think, but only because NP> what we think, and what we are doing, is hurting them and getting NP> their attention. Party A has thought they had it in the bag, clearly NP> it is not. So party A is doing what it can to get it there. I note the qualifier . --- FMail 1.02 * Origin: CyberSupport Hq/Co.A PRN/SURV/FIDO+ (602)231-9377 (1:114/428) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 275 GUNS Ref: D5Q00010 Date: 05/20/96 From: PAUL NIXON Time: 06:47am \/To: GARY WESTFALL (Read 2 times) Subj: Let The Kid Hunt The Damn GARY was returning fire at PAUL about Let The Kid Hunt The Damn GW> I think that the Make-A-Wish organization is a fine one that does GW> a wonderful job of providing for a bright spot in the otherwise dismal Agreed... GW> each year because of the support for wildlife. I hope this incident GW> doesn't cause MaW to change their policies. However, the anti's are The national director guy, fergit his name, came out the other day and said their policies are under review. Whatever that means. But he did say that the issue should be between those who do and those who don't support hunting, and not drag them into it. GW> very vocal, have a lot of money and press support for their side. GW> Witness the ballot measure that passed in Oregon a couple of years ago GW> prohibiting hunting cougar with dogs. It was passed because the urban GW> (Portland area) vote barely overrode the massive no vote from the rural GW> areas. The anti's ran spots showing cute cubs in trees. We need to work on state legislatures to empower G&F departments to determine what gets hunted how, imo. Keep the freaking politics out of it. Look at what anti-hunting politics bs has done with some populations such as the cougar in California, and deer in some of the eastern states. It's so mean to hunt them furry critters...sure, so we'll just let 'em starve or die of desease. Idiots. --- FMail 1.02 * Origin: CyberSupport Hq/Co.A PRN/SURV/FIDO+ (602)231-9377 (1:114/428) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 275 GUNS Ref: D5Q00011 Date: 05/20/96 From: PAUL NIXON Time: 06:47am \/To: CLOYCE OSBORN (Read 2 times) Subj: After the shoot Cloyce was returning fire at John about After the shoot CO> Not necessarily true (take anything Ayoob says with a grain of salt). (The Ayoob part) Why? (Seeking elucidation, not dispute) --- FMail 1.02 * Origin: CyberSupport Hq/Co.A PRN/SURV/FIDO+ (602)231-9377 (1:114/428) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 275 GUNS Ref: D5Q00012 Date: 05/20/96 From: PAUL NIXON Time: 06:47am \/To: JOHN PERZ (Read 2 times) Subj: Bathtub Guns John was returning fire at Alex about Bathtub Guns -> BTW, the use of a tub gun in bathing is also the -> initial part of the process of cleaning your gun. The -> soaking helps loosen dirt and deposits in your weapon. When -> you are done bathing, you finish cleaning the gun and -> lubricate it as usual, so there is no need for any special -> coatings. JP> Ah so. So every time somebody has to shoot somebody while bathing, JP> the authorities record it as yet another instance of somebody being JP> shot while a gun was being cleaned. I WONDERED how those statistics JP> got so high! I allus figgered it was easiest and environmentally friendliest to wash my body, my gun, my car and clothes at the same time: drive thru the carwash with the windows open... --- FMail 1.02 * Origin: CyberSupport Hq/Co.A PRN/SURV/FIDO+ (602)231-9377 (1:114/428) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 275 GUNS Ref: D5Q00013 Date: 05/20/96 From: PAUL NIXON Time: 06:47am \/To: ALL (Read 2 times) Subj: UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES, A Book Review * Crossposted from: FREEDOM'S_VOICE Somewhere, somewhen, somebody was asking about this book: == Forwarded Message Follows ========================================= * Originally By: Jim Henry * Originally To: All * Originally Re: UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES, A Book Review * Original Date: 16 May 96 21:34 * Original Area: PR_NET * Forwarded by : Blue Wave/386 v2.30 This message was from FRANCIS A NEY, JR to JIM HENRY, originally in conference I-EMAIL and was forwarded to you by JIM HENRY.