--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 275 GUNS Ref: D5P00126 Date: 05/08/96 From: JOE DUFRESNE Time: 08:36am \/To: EARNEST PADGETTE (Read 2 times) Subj: Nra EP> Any time you want to know something, just post to me. Thats what EP> I'm here for. Ernie P. Ernie, this is more of a suggestion than a question. I was recently talking with my best freind. Both she and her husband and their 5 children are all NRA life members. the problem is that they are getting multiple copies of the same magazines when they only need one copy. would it be possible to replace some of those duplicate subscriptions with another publication? joe --- * SPEED 2.00 #2737 * 22's have no stopping power eh. Look into my barrel. --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: The Privy Ledged BBS, Kearns, Utah (801) 966-6270 (1:311/5.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 275 GUNS Ref: D5P00127 Date: 05/08/96 From: JOE DUFRESNE Time: 07:17pm \/To: VERN HUMPHREY (Read 2 times) Subj: OC Spray ML> VH> So if I was to go into the john and spray the toilet paper with OC, VH>it ML> VH> should be good for a few laughs, right? :-) ML> Re-defining rectifier are we...? VH>So Howie came charging out of the john with his pants at half-mast VH>yelling "Gimme dat fire extinguisher -- I gotta put out dis rectifier!" VH>:-) When I was in high school, a few of us snuck into the Facility Bathroom, and spread Icy-Hot on the seat. Wished I'd thought of the oc, though. joe --- * SPEED 2.00 #2737 * People say I'm indecisive. Am I? I don't know. --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: The Privy Ledged BBS, Kearns, Utah (801) 966-6270 (1:311/5.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 275 GUNS Ref: D5P00128 Date: 05/08/96 From: JOE DUFRESNE Time: 07:21pm \/To: DAVID HANNON (Read 2 times) Subj: OC Spray DH>BTW, I've had great luck with the Guardian Security Products "BodyGuard" I had a whole can of BodyGuard sprayed in my face from about one foot. Didn't even phase me. Thats why I won't carry it; I don't trust it. joe --- * SPEED 2.00 #2737 * YOU HAVE BEEN REJECTED FOR ASSIMILATION INTO THE BORG --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: The Privy Ledged BBS, Kearns, Utah (801) 966-6270 (1:311/5.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 275 GUNS Ref: D5P00129 Date: 05/10/96 From: CLOYCE OSBORN Time: 10:53pm \/To: DAVID HANNON (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: A Glock Convert DH> Count your blessings, Grant. At least you are with a woman who enjoys DH> shooting. The love of my life could care less about shooting, but DH> she does allow me to indulge myself as much as I want without DH> complaining too much. As long as I don't spend the grocery money on DH> ammo instead! 8-^) (been there, done that) And got the bruises to prove it, huh? Doggone, those cast iron skillets HURT! (not to mention getting frostbite under the electric blanket that night) :-) Another survivor. Regards. Cloyce. --- EZPoint V2.2 * Origin: Res Ipsa Loquitur, Indian Territory (1:147/34.13) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 275 GUNS Ref: D5P00130 Date: 05/10/96 From: CLOYCE OSBORN Time: 11:33pm \/To: JOHN DONOHUE (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: 22 caps JD> I still see them in larger gun stores, or sporting goods JD> stores with large firearms dept's. I used to single load JD> BB Caps in a Ruger MkII for use on rodents. They make JD> about as much noise as a kid's cap gun. Any soft backstop JD> will absorb them as they're pretty low velocity. When I first married, we rented a vacant house about five miles from town and I fixed it up for my new bride. Now, as all vacant structures will do, this one had acquired a resident colony of rodents. It was a great old house, built in the 1920's oil boom, and had everything newlyweds could want but it had a few field rats that called it home. I set out traps and poison, found a few hungry cats, etc. but still the field rat problem persisted. My new bride was a city girl and this upset her sensibilities. One evening she shrieked "there's a big old rat in the kitchen!" I decided that it wasn't too feasible to use my .357 or a 12 gauge so, instead, got my K-22 and loaded it with #12 birdshot loads. I went running into the kitchen and spotted a pair of rats. I nailed the first one and the second one went scurrying along the wall of the living room. I swung on him, got the appropriate lead and touched it off. Got the rat. Gee, I wish I'd noticed that my brief case was sitting just where I touched off that shot. I've never lived that one down. --- FLAME v1.0 * Origin: The SANDBOX ** MultiLine TBBS (405)737-9540 (1:147/34) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 275 GUNS Ref: D5P00131 Date: 05/11/96 From: CLOYCE OSBORN Time: 04:37pm \/To: JOHN SANDOW (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: ruger 10/22 Heavy barrel JS> Well, I finally ordered a heavy barrel for my 10/22 from Midway. I'm JS> sitting here looking at it, wondering how to get the most out of it. JS> I've already decided that I'm going to use the current stock, and shave JS> out the barrel groove to fit the .920" barrel, and refinish the stock JS> while I'm at it. I believe that's what I'd do also. JS> I've got a few questions that I'd like some input on though, the first f JS> which is how to go about mounting the barrel in the 'new' stock. When I JS> get the stock cut out to the right diameter, idealy the barrel should JS> just lay in the stock. Is this acceptable for purposes of accuracy and JS> barrel to action integrity? It seems to me one would want more barrel JS> support to keep it from torquing on the action to barrel joint. Torque the action down and let the barrel just lay in the barrel channel. Any barrel is going to vibrate some, even a .22 barrel. If it vibrates the same way with each shot, it's going to be accurate. You can always adjust bullet strike with your sight settings. JS> What I was thinking of doing is locking the barrel down to the stock ith JS> several set screws. I know this might sound rather crude, but aside rom JS> how it sounds (heck, ruger merely used a fancy hose clamp to steady the JS> factory barrel) is this a sound method in regards to maimtaining JS> accuracy? I'm not worried about barrel whip seeing as this is only a JS> .22lr, but would this possibly affect accuracy by transferring stresses JS> from the stock to the barrel, and thus changing the angles ever so JS> slightly? Does this mean I'd be better off floating the heavy barrel, r JS> just giving it a single point to rest on? DON'T. Any variation in how tight each of the screws might be is going to affect how the gun shoots. Better to just nicely open up the barrel channel and let the barrel do what it wants. JS> I appreciate any input, whether heresay or firsthand experience! anks! Well, you asked me so. . . :-) Regards. Cloyce. --- EZPoint V2.2 * Origin: Res Ipsa Loquitur, Indian Territory (1:147/34.13) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 275 GUNS Ref: D5P00132 Date: 05/11/96 From: CLOYCE OSBORN Time: 04:47pm \/To: JOHN SANDOW (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: 10/22 accuracy improver! JS> While in my quet for a more accurate ruger 10/22, I came accross JS> something that is by no means new, but seems to make a _big_ difference JS> in my shooting with my rifle: JS> Installing a set screw on the back of the trigger guard to limit JS> overtravel of the trigger. I've had a trigger job done on mine, pull is JS> down to about 2.5#, action polished. But I've always noticed that when JS> the hammer drops, the scope would pull significantly off target. rhaps Over travel stops? Sure, I've made or installed a bunch of them. You're right in that they make a BIG difference. In fact, an over travel stop makes a bigger difference in accuracy than trigger pull weight does. I usually used #6 or #8 allen head screws, though. Size isn't critical but adjustment is (to get best performance). After you get the proper adjustment, grind or file off any of the screw that's projecting forward of the trigger and let the LockTite set up. I've got a couple of old Mausers with triggers that will bring tears of joy to your eyes even though their trigger pull measures 5-7 pounds. Trigger "feel" right at the instant of break is everything. It doesn't matter how light the trigger is, if it feels long and mushy, the gun is going to be hard to shoot well. Regards. Cloyce. --- EZPoint V2.2 * Origin: Res Ipsa Loquitur, Indian Territory (1:147/34.13) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 275 GUNS Ref: D5P00133 Date: 05/11/96 From: CLOYCE OSBORN Time: 05:53pm \/To: VERN HUMPHREY (Read 2 times) Subj: Hunting with .44's PN> VH> No one hunts with a .44 Magnum.") he said "I didn't know that." PN> Uh, I realize I'm picking at nits...but some folks do hunt with .44's. Oh, yeah, there's a few of us old reprobates out here. VH> Something got scrambled here -- the minister said "No one hunts with a VH> .38 Special. No one hunts with a .44 Magnum." VH> **I** hunt with a .38 Special (although my gun is a .357, and I use .38 VH> Special wadcutters for hunting) and the .44 Mag was DESIGNED for hunting VH> -- it's Elmer Keith's brainchild, based on his hunting with the .44 VH> Special. He agitated for it for years until S&W and Remington finally VH> caved in. Old Elmer was quite a character. I never had the honor of meeting him in person but I understand he was a true "good ole boy". From published accounts I've read, he must have bent up or busted a bunch of .44 S&W frames while he was working up the .44 Magnum. Regards. Cloyce. --- EZPoint V2.2 * Origin: Res Ipsa Loquitur, Indian Territory (1:147/34.13) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 275 GUNS Ref: D5P00134 Date: 05/12/96 From: JOHN PERZ Time: 03:21pm \/To: JOHN SANDOW (Read 2 times) Subj: ruger 10/22 Heavy barrel -> Well, I finally ordered a heavy barrel for my 10/22 from Midway. I'm -> sitting here looking at it, wondering how to get the most out of it. -> I appreciate any input, whether heresay or firsthand experience! -> Thanks! OK. This is from an article called OPTIMIZING YOUR ACCURACY by Craig Boddington. It appeared in a recent Petersons Rifle Shooter. "The simple purpose for barrel bedding is stability. The barrel vibrates like a firehose while the bullet travels its length. Bedding - marrying the barrel and action to the stock - damps vibration somewhat, but the real benefit is to ensure the barrel vibrates the same way each time. There are several ways to do this. You can bed the action and free-float the barrel. You can glass-bed the whole works - action and barrel channel. You can free-float most of the barrel and have just a slight bit of upward pressure on the fore-end tip. You can pillar-bed with aluminum blocks. And there are other techniques. None are necessarily better than others (although free-floating is generally best suited to heavier barrels). Keep in mind that many production factory rifles aren't really bedded at all, just fitted into the stock. If you can't get the accuracy you want - and especially if your groups string vertically or horizontally - bedding is often the culprit. A bit of pressure along the barrel channel can do dramatic things. You can bed, or you can rebed or you can change the bedding method. Again, as long as they are done properly, all the standard techniques work." -> What I was thinking of doing is locking the barrel down to the stock -> with several set screws. I've never heard of anything like this, John. I believe the bench-rest fanatics free-float their barrels. Regards John --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: Hudson Valley BBS (1:2624/808.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 275 GUNS Ref: D5P00135 Date: 05/12/96 From: JOHN PERZ Time: 05:00pm \/To: ALL (Read 2 times) Subj: 22 CAPS I want to thank Mike Hughes & John Donohue for their responses to my request for info on 22 caps. --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: Hudson Valley BBS (1:2624/808.0)