--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 274 PYROTECHNICS Ref: EC400001 Date: 08/03/97 From: JOE KOTROCZO Time: 01:45pm \/To: SCOTT HOFFMAN (Read 0 times) Subj: How to produce some smoke? Salut Scott, JK>> All that stuff sounds pretty toxic to me. Now, doesn't anybody know JK>> somethi that can be used in closed rooms. There are 2 well known methods, JK>> CO2 and disco smoke machines, but they only produce a kind o fog, and not JK>> really de smoke. SH> Actually, there happens to be a supposeldy new (dont know how new it is in SH> theory but alot or products recently cropped up using this technique).. SH> Theres a compound called glycol which is a liquid (you have to run it SH> through a small machine which heats it up). The glycol liquid turns nto SH> a gas whenheated up, and it has the unique property of not dissipating for SH> upward of one hour, so you have dense fog for at least 30 minutes. And SH> supposedly its not toxic at all (or at least not significantly) and can be SH> breathed by anyone in the surrounding area with no side efefcts. The SH> resultant is something which looks more like a white smoke than a fog. Really? Can you perhaps tell me where I can get more information about this? Perhaps the manufacturer or something? We need something to simulate one of those army smoke grenades on stage. Using the real thing would not be so fine for the singers... I was thinking more about something pyrotechnical, but if this glycol thing works... bye .... Joe --- * Origin: F.A.T.C. (2:270/20) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 274 PYROTECHNICS Ref: EC500000 Date: 08/01/97 From: JON GLENN Time: 06:21pm \/To: ARVID STUEWE (Read 0 times) Subj: smoke generators Arvid Stuewe posts in the sunlit world he belives to be reality.... JK> There are 2 well known JK> methods, CO2 and disco smoke machines, but they only produce a kind o JK> fog, and not really dense smoke. AS> How do those smoke machines work? They heat a special fluid and blow it out as smoke. I don't know the proper name for the stuff. We always called it "fog juice". Jon ... CAUTION! This stage armed with itchy-fingered Pyrotechnician. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: The Energy Machine! Jefferson LA USA 504-733-3462 (1:396/35.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 274 PYROTECHNICS Ref: EC500001 Date: 08/05/97 From: TERRY S Time: 02:29am \/To: JOE KOTROCZO (Read 0 times) Subj: How to produce some smoke? JK>> All that stuff sounds pretty toxic to me. Now, doesn't anybody know JK>> somethi that can be used in closed rooms. There JK>> are 2 well known methods, JK>> CO2 and disco smoke machines, but they only SH> Theres a compound called glycol which is a liquid SH> (you have to run it SH> through a small machine which heats it up). The SH> glycol liquid turns into SH> a gas whenheated up, and it has the unique SH> property of not dissipating for SH> upward of one hour, so you have dense fog for at SH> least 30 minutes. And SH> supposedly its not toxic at all (or at least not Ethylene glycol as used in common anti-freeze is toxic. Propylene glycol is more expensive, but is low enough toxicity to be used to prevent winter storage damage to potable water systems in boats and RVs. Terry --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Terry's Tavern! (1:141/1275) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 274 PYROTECHNICS Ref: ECA00000 Date: 08/05/97 From: WARD GOWING Time: 06:10pm \/To: MICHAEL EGNER (Read 0 times) Subj: How to produce some smoke? ME> Ok, I've got a really interesting question for the beginning: ME> How to produce large amounts of smoke... chain smoke? --- Maximus 2.02 * Origin: * The InfoNet * Stratford, CT * 203-380-1154 * (1:141/405) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 274 PYROTECHNICS Ref: ECB00000 Date: 08/05/97 From: TONY FRANKLIN Time: 08:24pm \/To: MICHAEL EGNER (Read 0 times) Subj: How to produce some smoke? Yeah MAte. Me and my mates burnt a caravan once on a property. U aint seen smoke till ya seen that. It was like the end of the world - SCARY SHIT! --- Ezycom V1.48g0 03fa001f * Origin: THE BAUDer LINE BBS Line 1 076-916258 (3:640/450) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 274 PYROTECHNICS Ref: ECB00001 Date: 08/05/97 From: TONY FRANKLIN Time: 08:25pm \/To: MORITZ BARTL (Read 0 times) Subj: How to produce some smoke? Put a ping pong ball in alfoil. shape it like a toffee apple bomb. make a small hole in the alfoil. burn it and u r choking to death on smoke --- Ezycom V1.48g0 03fa001f * Origin: THE BAUDer LINE BBS Line 1 076-916258 (3:640/450) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 274 PYROTECHNICS Ref: ECB00002 Date: 08/06/97 From: ANTONY STEELE Time: 09:09am \/To: MORITZ BARTL (Read 0 times) Subj: How to produce some smoke? MB> SMOKE BOMBS 4.14 AS> Cool, do you have any other info like this? MB> That's all I have about smoke. Do you have any more info about anything else PYRO? .I.N.S.A.N.i.T.Y..50:150/145@RGSNet..3:770/215.3@FidoNet..98:100/1@INNet.. ... Always forgive your enemies. They HATE that! ~~~ ReneWave v2.00 [NR] --- xMail 1.00 * Origin: ..I.N.S.A.N.i.T.Y..9pm.-.4pm.0.3.-.3.1.3.9.3.5.5.. (3:770/215.3) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 274 PYROTECHNICS Ref: ECC00000 Date: 08/07/97 From: RICH DELONG Time: 06:26pm \/To: WARD GOWING (Read 0 times) Subj: How to produce some smoke -=> Quoting Ward Gowing to Michael Egner <=- ME> Ok, I've got a really interesting question for the beginning: ME> How to produce large amounts of smoke... WG> chain smoke? I like your response The Minotaur ... Always consider the alternative before making a choice. ___ Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 [NR] --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: Baron's Flying Service (1:2202/8) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 274 PYROTECHNICS Ref: ECD00000 Date: 08/06/97 From: JOE KOTROCZO Time: 10:43pm \/To: TERRY S (Read 0 times) Subj: How to produce some smoke? Salut Terry, [...] TS> Ethylene glycol as used in common anti-freeze is toxic. Propylene lycol TS> is more expensive, but is low enough toxicity to be used to prevent winter TS> storage damage to potable water systems in boats and RVs. I assume this applies for the liquid? Toxicity may be different for the smoke of a liquid than for the liquid itself... Anyway, before I use something on stage, I have to have some kind of certificate that guarantees the non-toxicity. bye .... Joe --- * Origin: F.A.T.C. (2:270/20) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 274 PYROTECHNICS Ref: ECD00001 Date: 08/06/97 From: JOE KOTROCZO Time: 10:46pm \/To: JON GLENN (Read 0 times) Subj: smoke generators Salut Jon, JK>> There are 2 well known methods, CO2 and disco smoke machines, but they JK>> only produce a kind of fog, and not really dense smoke. AS>> How do those smoke machines work? JG> They heat a special fluid and blow it out as smoke. I don't JG> know the proper name for the stuff. We always called it "fog juice". I don't believe that there is a "proper" name for the stuff. By its' manufacturers, it's usually called "fog liquid" or something. JG> ... CAUTION! This stage armed with itchy-fingered Pyrotechnician. Ah, that reminds me: does anyone know of a system, that allows the artist (a magician in this case) to trigger his pyro FX by himself. I can't stop him improvosing on stage, and when he tries to give me signs, he's either to late, or holding something in both hands... Has anyone any experience with this? bye .... Joe --- * Origin: F.A.T.C. (2:270/20)