--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 273 OS/2 INTERNET Ref: EDM00010 Date: 09/16/97 From: ROBERT LAPRISE Time: 10:13pm \/To: ALL (Read 2 times) Subj: registrations Greetings All! Below is a chopped down copy of my DIALING.TRC trace file. I've just spent a day trying to get registered with IBM's Internet service so I can maybe finally get my copy of Warp registered. The software registration program connects (carrier sounds etc..) then exits with a Communications Error box saying the service is not responding. So I figured I'd hit the INet and do it that way. Well, after a full day of screwing with it and numerous calls to the help desk I still can't hook up with them. The mass of XXXX's is the data I filled out in the REGISTER routine for the INet service. The 'Hang-up pressed' was due to the number of times I've been through this and didn't feel like waiting the 30 or 40 more seconds the connect would have lasted. Anyone have any ideas why I can't get the data flow going on these connects? The help desk told me a)the US registration number in the PHONES.LST file is no longer in service, though the login appears to say differently. Not to mention that that copy of the numbers was DL'ed earlier in the day from the IBM BBS, and b)That I could change the number to my local area site and reg. through them. That method results in a hangup right after the first '* (register)' is sent. This is really getting annoying since all I really want is to get Warp registered with IBM and am told that the Registration Programs Modem option or Internet option are the only two that are acceptable these days. Any help or tips would be appreciated. And if anyone can give me a FREQ address for the 1.45 version of DIALER.EXE I'd appreaciate it. Supposedly it works 'well' with SIO (recommended by document #103 from the help desk) but the version I got from the IBM BBS (INST145.EXE) craps out almost at the start saying it's a corrupt file or some such thing. Running a WARP 4 Upgrade over the Red Box v3 floppy version which had FIXPACK 17 installed. Also using the updated TCPIP files that Bob Juge has online. Would doing and install of the Warp Connect package from the Red Box's Bonus Pack help? I know it's an older version of DIALER. ******************************************************************* IBM Internet Dialer Diagnostics - 09/16/97 21:02:17 ******************************************************************* IBM Internet Dialer version 1.65 OS/2 2.4.0 486 24M CP 437 Tue Sep 16 20:58:00 1997 Command line: 'DIALER.EXE register 18009333997 ' Registering, phone number: '18009333997' 'I:\MPTN\ETC\DIALER.INI' used 'I:\MPTN\ETC\TCPOS2.INI' used Autostarted programs disabled from command-line. 20:58:00 Opening the serial port... Open COM3. 20:58:00 Initializing the serial port... Set serial port DCB settings. Set line control to 8, none, 1. Set speed to 57600. Speed set to 57600 (min 50, max 115200). DTR=off DTR=on 20:58:01 Initializing the modem... BocaModem 2880 ATZ OK AT&F OK AT&D2&C1X4V1Q0S7=70W2\N3&K3 OK 20:58:04 Dialing registration phone number... ATDT18009333997 CONNECT 14400 DCD=on CTS=on DSR=on DTR=on RTS=on 20:58:22 Logging in... Connect log updated. 20:58:23 Sending on-line registration...  * (register)  HELLO Text="Welcome to IBM Internet Services"570f~~  ACK  INFO HFirstAddr="XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX  XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX  XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX  XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Login window closed.  XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX  XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX  XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX  XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX  XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX  XXXXXXXXXXXXX  ACK Hang-up pressed. Registration thread ended. Connected for 1:14. 0 bytes received, 0 bytes sent. Peak throughput was 0 bytes/second. No transmission errors were recorded. 20:59:18 Hanging up... Dial thread stopped. Password removed from TCP/IP INI file. DCD=on CTS=on DSR=on DTR=off DTR=on DCD=off CTS=on DSR=on DTR=off Close serial port. 20:59:23 Disconnected. Connect log updated. Writing registration dialog to I:\MPTN\ETC\Register.Trc... ******************************************************************* netstat -ris ******************************************************************* total packets received 0 checksum bad 0 packet too short 0 not enough data 0 ip header length < data size 0 ip length < ip header length 0 fragments received 0 frags dropped (dups, out of space) 0 fragments timed out 0 packets forwarded 0 packets rcvd for unreachable dest 0 packets forwarded on same net 0 requests for transmission 0 output packets discarded because no route could be found 0 input packets delivered successfully to user-protocols 0 input packets with an unknown protocol 0 output packets successfully fragmented 0 output fragments created 0 fragmentation failed 0 successfully assembled packets 0 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- AF_INET Address Family : SOCK TYPE FOREIGN LOCAL FOREIGN STATE PORT PORT HOST ==== ========= ============= ============= ============= ============= 12 DGRAM 0 0 0.0.0.0 UDP -------------------------------------------------------------------------- AF_OS2 Address Family : -------------------------------------------------------------------------- AF_NB Address Family : SOCK TYPE PARTNER NAME LOCAL NAME U/G ADP STATE ==== ======= ================ ================ === === ========= ******************************************************************* mode com1 ******************************************************************* mode com2 baud = 115200 parity = NONE databits = 8 stopbits = 1 TO = OFF XON = OFF IDSR = OFF ODSR = OFF OCTS = ON DTR = OFF RTS = HS BUFFER = ON ******************************************************************* I:\Config.sys ******************************************************************* REM ************************************************** REM Base Devices REM ************************************************** BASEDEV=IBMKBD.SYS BASEDEV=IBMIDECD.FLT BASEDEV=TIMER0.SYS BASEDEV=PRINT01.SYS BASEDEV=IBM1FLPY.ADD BASEDEV=IBM2FLPY.ADD BASEDEV=IBM1S506.ADD BASEDEV=XDFLOPPY.FLT BASEDEV=OS2DASD.DMD REM ************************************************** REM Libraries REM ************************************************** [...] REM ************************************************** REM Set Statements REM ************************************************** [...] SET IPF_KEYS=SBCS SET ETC=I:\MPTN\ETC SET KEYS=ON SET SOMDDIR=I:\OS2\ETC\DSOM SET ULSPATH=I:\LANGUAGE SET LOCPATH=I:\LANGUAGE\LOCALE; SET LANG=EN_US SET TZUTC=-0500 REM SET TZUTC=-0600 SET FE=F:\BT\FASTECHO SET GRADD_CHAINS=C1 SET C1=GENGRADD SET VIDEO_DEVICES=VIO_SVGA SET VIO_SVGA=DEVICE(BVHVGA,BVHSVGA) SET MMBASE=I:\MMOS2; SET DSPPATH=I:\MMOS2\DSP; SET NCDEBUG=4000 SET TMP=I:\TMP SET EPMPATH=I:\OS2\APPS; SET TAPE=FLOPPY REM *********** BEGINNING OF GCC/EMX CONFIGURATION STATEMENTS ************ [...] REM *********** END OF GCC/EMX CONFIGURATION STATEMENTS ****************** REM ************************************************** REM Code Page REM ************************************************** CODEPAGE=437,850 REM ************************************************** REM Country Code REM ************************************************** COUNTRY=001,I:\OS2\SYSTEM\COUNTRY.SYS REM ************************************************** REM Device Info REM ************************************************** DEVINFO=KBD,US,I:\OS2\KEYBOARD.DCP DEVINFO=SCR,VGA,I:\OS2\BOOT\VIOTBL.DCP REM ************************************************** REM OS/2 Devices REM ************************************************** DEVICE=I:\OS2\BOOT\POINTDD.SYS DEVICE=I:\OS2\BOOT\MOUSE.SYS SERIAL=COM1 DEVICE=I:\OS2\BOOT\TESTCFG.SYS DEVICE=I:\OS2\BOOT\DOS.SYS DEVICE=I:\OS2\BOOT\PMDD.SYS DEVICE=I:\OS2\BOOT\APM.SYS DEVICE=I:\OS2\BOOT\OS2CDROM.DMD /Q DEVICE=I:\OS2\GRADD.SYS REM ********** COMM DRIVERS ********************************* DEVICE=I:\SIO\SIO.SYS (2,2F8,3,-) (3,3E8,5,-) DEVICE=I:\SIO\VSIO.SYS DEVICE=I:\SIO\VX00.SYS REM DEVICE=I:\OS2\BOOT\COM.SYS REM DEVICE=I:\OS2\MDOS\VCOM.SYS REM ********************************************************* DEVICE=I:\MMOS2\SB16D2.SYS /C:1 /D:3 /H:7 /I:7 /A:220 /M:300 /N:SBAUD1$ /Q /P DEVICE=I:\MMOS2\AUDIOVDD.SYS SBAUD1$ DEVICE=I:\MMOS2\SSMDD.SYS DEVICE=I:\MMOS2\R0STUB.SYS DEVICE=I:\MMOS2\MIDI.SYS DEVICE=I:\MMOS2\VCSHDD.SYS DEVICE=I:\IBMCOM\PROTOCOL\LANPDD.OS2 DEVICE=I:\IBMCOM\PROTOCOL\LANVDD.OS2 DEVICE=I:\IBMCOM\LANMSGDD.OS2 /I:I:\IBMCOM /S DEVICE=I:\IBMCOM\PROTMAN.OS2 /I:I:\IBMCOM DEVICE=I:\IBMCOM\PROTOCOL\NETBEUI.OS2 DEVICE=I:\IBMCOM\PROTOCOL\NETBIOS.OS2 DEVICE=I:\IBMCOM\MACS\NULLNDIS.OS2 DEVICE=I:\MPTN\PROTOCOL\SOCKETS.SYS DEVICE=I:\MPTN\PROTOCOL\AFOS2.SYS DEVICE=I:\MPTN\PROTOCOL\AFINET.SYS DEVICE=I:\MPTN\PROTOCOL\IFNDIS.SYS DEVICE=I:\MPTN\PROTOCOL\AFNB.SYS /S:50 /C:80 /N:21 DEVICE=I:\TCPIP\BIN\VDOSTCP.VDD DEVICE=I:\TCPIP\BIN\VDOSTCP.SYS DEVICE=I:\OS2\MIXER\PARADISE.SYS DEVICE=I:\NOVABACK\NOVAQICF.SYS /PORT=3F0 /DMA=2 /IRQ=6 /FAST /BUFFERS=16 REM ************************************************** REM File Systems REM ************************************************** IFS=I:\OS2\HPFS.IFS /CACHE:1024 /CRECL:4 /AUTOCHECK:EFGHI IFS=I:\OS2\BOOT\CDFS.IFS /Q REM ************************************************** REM Swap Files REM ************************************************** SWAPPATH=F:\_SWAPFILE_ 2048 24576 REM ************************************************** REM DOS Commands REM ************************************************** BREAK=OFF REM ************************************************** REM DOS Devices REM ************************************************** DEVICE=I:\OS2\MDOS\VMOUSE.SYS DEVICE=I:\OS2\MDOS\VEMM.SYS DEVICE=I:\OS2\MDOS\ANSI.SYS DEVICE=I:\OS2\MDOS\VXMS.SYS /UMB DEVICE=I:\OS2\MDOS\VDPMI.SYS DEVICE=I:\OS2\MDOS\VDPX.SYS DEVICE=I:\OS2\MDOS\VWIN.SYS DEVICE=I:\OS2\MDOS\VW32S.SYS DEVICE=I:\OS2\MDOS\VAPM.SYS DEVICE=I:\OS2\MDOS\VCDROM.SYS DEVICE=I:\OS2\MDOS\VMANWIN.SYS DEVICE=I:\OS2\MDOS\VPRPMI.SYS DEVICE=I:\OS2\MDOS\VSVGA.SYS REM ************************************************** REM Other DOS Stuff REM ************************************************** FILES=60 PROTECTONLY=NO SHELL=I:\OS2\MDOS\COMMAND.COM I:\OS2\MDOS FCBS=16,8 RMSIZE=640 DOS=HIGH,UMB REM ************************************************** REM Programs to Run REM ************************************************** CALL=I:\IBMCOM\PROTOCOL\NETBIND.EXE RUN=I:\IBMCOM\LANMSGEX.EXE RUN=I:\OS2\SYSTEM\HYBERSET.EXE RUN=I:\OS2\SMSTART.EXE RUN=I:\MMOS2\MIDIDMON.EXE RUN=I:\MMOS2\QRYMMCD.EXE RUN=I:\MPTN\BIN\AFNBINI.EXE RUN=I:\MPTN\BIN\CNTRL.EXE CALL=I:\OS2\CMD.EXE /Q /C I:\MPTN\BIN\MPTSTART.CMD >NUL RUN=I:\TCPIP\BIN\VDOSCTL.EXE REM ************************************************** REM Anything Else REM ************************************************** PROTSHELL=I:\OS2\PMSHELL.EXE PRIORITY_DISK_IO=YES BUFFERS=90 IOPL=YES DISKCACHE=D,LW MAXWAIT=3 MEMMAN=SWAP,PROTECT THREADS=512 PRINTMONBUFSIZE=134,134,134 *************************** Thanks much, Rob quicksilver.gem@juno.com --- timEd/2 1.10+ * Origin: The Cosmic Watermelon - Hopkins, MN - 612.939.0031 (1:282/4098) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 273 OS/2 INTERNET Ref: EDM00011 Date: 09/17/97 From: DON GUY Time: 01:40am \/To: SCOTT JONES (Read 2 times) Subj: Telnet client with high A Greetings Scott! A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away, Scott Jones wrote to Don Guy: SJ> Try Options->Settings...->Emulation. There should be a checkbox that SJ> says "Swap DEL and backspace key." Awww crap. I must be going blind in my old age! :-) Thanks! -Don ... E=OS/2 --- * Origin: Extreme Impossibility/2 [Kingston, Ontario, Canada] (1:249/176) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 273 OS/2 INTERNET Ref: EDM00012 Date: 09/16/97 From: JOE LANG Time: 10:11am \/To: ALL (Read 2 times) Subj: ppp errors Hi folks, I keep getting these errors from my ISP and they don't seem to be able to help get rid of them. They make for a very slow internet connection. The errors are similar on two machines ; one running Warp 3 (FP 26+ Hayes Accura + SIO 1.6d + 8 meg RAM) and other other Warp 4 + Sportster 33.6 + SIO 1.6d + 32 Meg RAM. Both systems give great performance on local BBS connects with 0 errors The following is my log (and comments) from my Warp 3 machine: notice : OS/2 ppp 2.00 Revision: 1.12 started by OS/2, pid 23 info : Using interface ppp0 info : Setting line characteristics info : Setting com port baud rate to 38400 (have gone up to 115200 and same errors) notice : Linking: ppp0 <--> com4 info : Time critical priority level 31 info : Connecting with info : Connector completed ... info : Remote message: info : [io_event] Unsupported protocol (80fd) received. (What is this error?) notice : ipcp_up: local IP address 204.83.142.35 notice : ipcp_up: remote IP address 204.83.142.31 notice : VJ TCP header compression enabled info : default route assigned through 204.83.142.31 error : [NETW] Invalid fcs (What are the rest of these errors and how can I get rid of them?) error : [NETW] Invalid fcs error : [NETW] Invalid fcs error : [NETW] Invalid protocol 52950 error : [NETW] Invalid fcs error : [NETW] Invalid fcs error : [NETW] Invalid fcs error : [NETW] Invalid fcs error : [NETW] Invalid fcs error : [NETW] Invalid fcs error : [NETW] Invalid protocol 20492 error : [NETW] Invalid fcs error : [NETW] Invalid fcs error : [NETW] Invalid fcs error : [NETW] Invalid fcs error : [NETW] Invalid protocol 44642 error : [NETW] Invalid fcs error : [NETW] Invalid fcs error : [NETW] Invalid fcs error : [NETW] Invalid fcs error : [NETW] Invalid fcs error : [NETW] Invalid fcs error : [NETW] Invalid protocol 8226 error : [NETW] Invalid fcs error : [NETW] Invalid fcs error : [NETW] Invalid fcs error : [NETW] Invalid protocol 34454 error : [NETW] Invalid fcs error : [NETW] Invalid fcs error : [NETW] Invalid fcs error : [NETW] Invalid fcs error : [NETW] Invalid fcs error : [NETW] Invalid fcs error : [NETW] Invalid protocol 1720 error : [NETW] Invalid fcs error : [NETW] Invalid fcs error : [NETW] Invalid fcs info : Terminating link. notice : lcp_down: Connection terminated. ______________________________________________________________________________ _____ PPP confiuration file: priority 31 com4 38400 (or up to 115200) mru 576 [ISP settings have tried sizes up to 1500 and similar errors] modem rtscts defaultroute notify exit idle 15 passive (or not) user xxxxx name xxxxxx secret xxxxxxxxx connect "pppdial.cmd c:\tcpip\etc\ppp.rsp" _____________________________________________________________________________ pppdial.rsp: GO  [PPPDIAL_REM] Don Russell - don_russell@ibm.net - sample pppdial script response file. [PPPDIAL_REM] Note: GO is still required first... and we use GO instead of WAIT [PPPDIAL_REM] because our first action is a [REPEAT] which means WE start. [PPPDIAL_QUIET] [PPPDIAL_USE_DIALER] [PPPDIAL_PREFIX] ATDT [PPPDIAL_PHONE] 566-4450 [PPPDIAL_INIT1] ATZ (or at&f1 for Sportster or A&f&c1&d2 etc for both) [PPPDIAL_REM] [PPPDIAL_DELAY] 3 [PPPDIAL_REM] Only retry dialing 500 times [PPPDIAL_MAX_REDIAL] 500 ___________________________________________________________________________ TCPIP settings: ifconfig ppp0 sendbuf 2144 recvbuf 2144 segsize 536 (have tried other buffers and segment sizes and not adjusting the config it seems to make no difference) ___________________________________________________________________________ Current Modem settings for the Accura: at&v ACTIVE PROFILE: B1 E1 L1 M0 N1 Q0 T V1 W0 X4 Y0 &C1 &D2 &G0 &J0 &K3 &Q5 &R1 &S0 &T5 &X0 &Y0 S00:000 S01:000 S02:043 S03:013 S04:010 S05:008 S06:002 S07:060 S08:002 S09:006 S10:014 S11:055 S12:050 S18:000 S25:005 S26:001 S36:007 S37:000 S38:020 S44:020 S46:138 S48:007 S95:046 STORED PROFILE 0: B1 E1 L1 M0 N1 Q0 T V1 W0 X4 Y0 &C1 &D2 &G0 &J0 &K3 &Q5 &R1 &S0 &T5 &X0 S00:000 S02:043 S06:002 S07:060 S08:002 S09:006 S10:014 S11:055 S12:050 S18:000 S36:007 S37:000 S40:104 S41:195 S46:138 S95:046 STORED PROFILE 1: B1 E1 L1 M0 N0 Q0 T V1 W0 X4 Y0 &C1 &D2 &G0 &J0 &K3 &Q5 &R1 &S0 &T5 &X0 S00:000 S02:043 S06:002 S07:060 S08:002 S09:006 S10:014 S11:055 S12:050 S18:000 S36:007 S37:020 S40:104 S41:195 S46:138 S95:046 TELEPHONE NUMBERS: 0=1 1= 2= 3= OK ______________________________________________________________________________ __ Any thoughts??? These errors mostly occur when pages with large amounts of graphics are downloaded - and the tranfer grinds to a halt. What is interesting is that my ISP gave me the number for their secondary server and low and behold I received NO errors. When I told them this they didn't know what the dfference could be but said stick with what works - very nice - until today when I noticed that they changed the addresses of the secondary server and now I get the same errors and frustration. Also - they have just told me that they have changed to NT servers ! Is there something I should change or adjust to get error free connects or what? Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated - Thanks very much ahead of time. Cheers Joe ... ebius tagline. This is a moebius tagline. This is a mo ... --- GEcho/2 1.20/Pro * Origin: The Green Zone - Regina, Sask, Canada (1:140/23) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 273 OS/2 INTERNET Ref: EDM00013 Date: 09/18/97 From: DAVID CALAFRANCESCO Time: 01:53am \/To: JOE LANG (Read 2 times) Subj: ppp errors Joe Lang wrote in a message to ALL: JL> Hi folks, I keep getting these errors from my ISP and they JL> don't seem to be able to help get rid of them. They make JL> for a very slow internet connection. The errors are similar JL> on two machines ; one running Warp 3 (FP 26+ Hayes Accura + JL> SIO 1.6d + 8 meg RAM) and other other Warp 4 + Sportster JL> 33.6 + SIO 1.6d + 32 Meg RAM. JL> notice : OS/2 ppp 2.00 Revision: 1.12 started by OS/2, JL> info : [io_event] Unsupported protocol (80fd) received. JL> (What is this error?) Simply a form of automatic user identification (similar to or is CHAP) JL> notice : VJ TCP header compression enabled Try disabling the compression JL> error : [NETW] Invalid fcs (What are the rest of these JL> errors and how can I get rid of them?) What is the serial port in the two computers. Does SIO detect it as a good cleen 16550AFN or something else? These errors are typically data overflow errors and seem to happen whenever the system on the other side doesn't bother to use flow control. That happens whenever the remote server is running direct modems to a terminal server. It seems to happen less to a dedicated modem control box (like a USR rack). I fought these errors for almost two years until I installed InJoy and then proceeded to watch these errors dissapear. Throughput went up. Stability hit an all time high. My provider can't keep my phone line linked more than a few dozen hours at a time but InJoy redials and reconnects me before I even know I have been down. It can crash, so I have a routine that tests whether it has gone south and then kills and restarts it. Get InJoy, you'll like it. Dave Calafrancesco, Team OS/2 dave@drakkar.mhv.net ... They got the library at Alexandria, they're not getting mine! --- * Origin: Druid's Grove BBS - (914)/876-2237 (1:2624/306) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 273 OS/2 INTERNET Ref: EDM00014 Date: 09/11/97 From: PAUL WEST Time: 12:16am \/To: JOHN HENTSCH (Read 2 times) Subj: vSoup In a message to All <09-08-97 12:11> John Hentsch wrote: JH> I trying to find someone that is using vsoup for newsgroups and email JH> pickup/delivery. I have vsoup inbounding newsgroups fine for my BBS JH> system. I'm foggy on exactly how to queue vsoup to send newsgroup JH> replies and email (nntp/smtp/pop3). Basically, you don't. I use Vsoup to retrive news from my ISP for my BBS. To send news and email to my server, I use GIGO and the addon TCP/IP package. The readme in the GIGO tcpip package is pretty clear on how to install this. Paul West - paulw@premier1.net http://www.premier1.net/~paulw ... Liberal Rule #9 - Can't refute the message? Attack the messenger! --- QuickBBS 2.85 (Pre-Release-2.0) GoldBase * Origin: Programmers Information Exchange (1:343/27) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 273 OS/2 INTERNET Ref: EDM00015 Date: 09/11/97 From: JOHN HENTSCH Time: 04:14am \/To: RICH VERAA (Read 2 times) Subj: vSoup In a message to John Hentsch <09/09/97> Rich Veraa wrote: JH> I trying to find someone that is using vsoup for newsgroups and JH> email pickup/delivery. I have vsoup inbounding newsgroups fine for JH> my BBS system. I'm foggy on exactly how to queue vsoup to send JH> newsgroup replies and email (nntp/smtp/pop3). RV> I just unpack the reply.zip packets produced by yarn in an empty irectory RV> called G:\OUTGOING and run vsoup with the -s switch from that directory RV> with a batch file like: Hi Rich, thanks for replying. My problem is I'm not necessarily running YARN. What I want to do is get my outbound waffle UUCP news/mail into a format vSoup will deliver. I guess what I looking for is a conversion util prg to go from UUCP -> Yarn format. jh - * WCE 2.1G1/2241 * August 24, 1995: The best day OS/2 ever had --- * Origin: Mail Box BBS Glendora, CA (1:218/907.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 273 OS/2 INTERNET Ref: EDM00016 Date: 09/11/97 From: BARRY BOGART Time: 04:15pm \/To: JOHN HENTSCH (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: vSoup JH> I trying to find someone that is using vsoup for newsgroups and email JH> pickup/delivery. I have vsoup inbounding newsgroups fine for my BBS JH> system. I'm foggy on exactly how to queue vsoup to send newsgroup JH> replies and email (nntp/smtp/pop3). Hi, I switched to Vsoup! :) Anyways, I just use the following lines to send. vsoup -Ms nntp://my.news.server not sure if tis is what you are asking. And to email, havn't got that far yet. ... SENILE.COM found...Out of Memory... --- * Origin: The Sanatorium! Sanataria Springs NY 607 648 6789 (1:260/432)