--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 272 HOME POWER Ref: EGC00000 Date: 12/05/97 From: JIM DUNMYER Time: 07:45am \/To: ELVIS HARGROVE (Read 2 times) Subj: THANKS > Yep! But 28 megs is not a 'few' hours at 14.4. Your milage > will doubtless be MUCH better. I was assuming a 28.8 modem on each end. :-) No matter, Michael says he'll send me the files on a Zip cartridge, so we should have 'em online RSN. --- FLAME v1.1 * Origin: Telnet toltbbs.com or call 313-854-6001, Boardwatch #55 (1:234/2) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 272 HOME POWER Ref: EGC00001 Date: 12/05/97 From: JIM DUNMYER Time: 08:24am \/To: IAN WOOFENDEN (Read 2 times) Subj: MOTOR WHICH RUNS ITSELF >CS> IE: a generator which takes less to power itself than it >CS> produces. 1 amp IN, 10 amps out kinda deal. > > Yeah, I can sell you that if you tell me how deep your pockets are. > > Also have a bridge you might like... NONONONONONONO! I saw him first, he's gonna buy MY geneator and bridge! MYOB, Ian. <> --- FLAME v1.1 * Origin: Telnet toltbbs.com or call 313-854-6001, Boardwatch #55 (1:234/2) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 272 HOME POWER Ref: EGC00002 Date: 12/07/97 From: ELVIS HARGROVE Time: 07:57am \/To: JIM DUNMYER (Read 2 times) Subj: THANKS -> I was assuming a 28.8 modem on each end. :-) No matter, Michael says -> he'll send me the files on a Zip cartridge, so we should have 'em -> online RSN. Far out! That's along the lines I was hoping for. Course I aint GOT any of them fancy things like 28.8 modems or Zip drives. ^..^ --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'j' * Origin: BOO! Board Of Occult, Rio Grande Valley Texas (1:397/6) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 272 HOME POWER Ref: EGC00003 Date: 12/07/97 From: JOE E. DODSON Time: 11:38am \/To: CHRIS SHEPHERD (Read 2 times) Subj: motor which runs itself 05 Dec 97 12:28, Chris Shepherd wrote to Joe E. Dodson: CS>You have a space station, like the one in 2001, which uses cyntrifical CS>force as gravity. Place at the center a generator which uses something CS>similar to a flywheel and magnets. Would the flywheel not spin eternally CS>(almost) if you gave it a spin and shut the compartment. Remember, here at CS>the center gravity is pulling equally in all directions, so they cancel CS>each other out. CS>Would that maybe work? No. I am not sure I can example why but it goes something like this: The flywheel will only contain the energy given it by the push that starts it spinning. As you "draw" energy from the flywheel it will tend to slow down unless you "add" energy to it. Now you could try to put the energy produced back into the flywheel but at present there is no 100% efficient way to transfer energy so there is a very slight loss of energy. Eventually you run out of energy. -Joe jdodson@smart1.net jdodson@freewwweb.com --- Msged/2 4.10 * Origin: A Place Called Joe's USRVeverything 281.351.9757 (1:106/977@fidonet) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 272 HOME POWER Ref: EGC00004 Date: 12/07/97 From: IAN WOOFENDEN Time: 10:51am \/To: ELVIS HARGROVE (Read 2 times) Subj: motor which runs itself On (06 Dec 97) Elvis Hargrove wrote to Ian Woofenden... -> That WAS me being nice. :) Thank me for not being mean... EH> Ok, I gotcha. Muchas Garcias. I only get ugly when I'm really tired and bitter. :) -> But it sure gets tiring hearing this baloney come up over and -> over. EH> Heartily concurr. Lord knows I beat MY brains out trying to EH> invent perpetual motion. I'd say there was some perpetual motion in your brain cells... -> Can we quote Richard Perez in the monthly echo posting - -> "pie-on-the-plate, not pie-in-the-sky"? EH> Big grin! OK, laugh, but you could also put it in there - see if we can fend off some of these messages before they're posted. Ian ... Greepers - People who walk up the down escalator to appear motionless. ... There are two expressions to keep your marriage bright: "I love you," and --- PPoint 1.96 * Origin: Woof Point West (1:101/525.3) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 272 HOME POWER Ref: EGC00005 Date: 12/07/97 From: IAN WOOFENDEN Time: 10:52am \/To: JIM DUNMYER (Read 2 times) Subj: MOTOR WHICH RUNS ITSELF On (05 Dec 97) Jim Dunmyer wrote to Ian Woofenden... CS> IE: a generator which takes less to power itself than it CS> produces. 1 amp IN, 10 amps out kinda deal. > Yeah, I can sell you that if you tell me how deep your pockets > are. > Also have a bridge you might like... JD> NONONONONONONO! I saw him first, he's gonna buy MY geneator JD> and bridge! MYOB, Ian. JD> <> Grin! I have a cable rope swing, but it's not for sale. It's also for real, and it works, and that ain't no bull. :) Ian ... You're supposed to burn the bridge AFTER you cross it! ... Buckminster Fuller said he would rather be not understood than misunderstood. --- PPoint 1.96 * Origin: Woof Point West (1:101/525.3) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 272 HOME POWER Ref: EGC00006 Date: 12/07/97 From: MIKE ROSS Time: 01:17pm \/To: JIM DUNMYER (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: MOTOR WHICH RUNS ITSELF Jim Dunmyer said the following to Ian Woofenden on the subject of MOTOR WHICH RUNS ITSELF (05 Dec 97 08:24:31) >CS> IE: a generator which takes less to power itself than it >CS> produces. 1 amp IN, 10 amps out kinda deal. > > Yeah, I can sell you that if you tell me how deep your pockets are. > > Also have a bridge you might like... JD> NONONONONONONO! I saw him first, he's gonna buy MY geneator and JD> bridge! MYOB, Ian. JD> <> HEY! I gave him the plans! HE'S MINE!!! <> --- Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 * Origin: Juxtaposition BBS. Lasalle, Quebec, Canada (1:167/133) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 272 HOME POWER Ref: EGE00000 Date: 11/30/97 From: DAY BROWN Time: 08:29pm \/To: IAN WOOFENDEN (Read 2 times) Subj: inverter types On 11-29-97 Ian Woofenden wrote to Day Brown... IW> On (20 Nov 97) Day Brown wrote to Roy J. Tellason... IW> IW> DB> Lemmee know whatcha find Roy. I had a brand new BJ cannon IW> DB> that immediately *fried* when run on a sin wave inverter. IW> IW> On sine wave, or modified sine? What brand of inverter? Tripplite 400 watter. dont remember the model number, it was only a year old at the time, but my house burned down a month after that, so i never got to dig into the cause of the problem very far. However, based on my understanding of SMPS and inverters, and the PWM chips used in both, it looks like a harmonic interaction when one of the PWM chips happens to make a sample that co-incides with the noise spike on the AC curve from an IGBT controlling current on one of the multi-tapped windings that are used by both designs. If I *had* to run a computer on an inverter, I'd use an isolation transformer, and hope the hysteresis would damp the ripple in the sin wave from the inverter, and pick up the slack when the SWPS IGBT shuts on/off. Of course, isolation xfmrs are big, expensive, and heavy. ___ * OFFLINE 1.58 * So much car trouble in life, they hadda jump start his hearse. --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: * After F/X * Rochester N.Y. 716-359-1662 (1:2613/415) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 272 HOME POWER Ref: EGE00001 Date: 12/01/97 From: DAY BROWN Time: 09:48pm \/To: JOCK ROGAN (Read 2 times) Subj: Generic Vehicle My question was not based on the cost of the parts of production vehicles, but on the cost of the *cheapest* set of parts to make a vehicle out of. Nor, would the parts all have to be *new*. There are many components which outlast the vehicles they were originally installed in, and of those which don't, rebuilds are much more reasonably priced with equal reliability... as for example, alternators, which can be rebuilt with a new set of brushes that cost less than a buck. ___ * OFFLINE 1.58 --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: * After F/X * Rochester N.Y. 716-359-1662 (1:2613/415) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 272 HOME POWER Ref: EGE00002 Date: 12/07/97 From: DAY BROWN Time: 09:52am \/To: ALL (Read 2 times) Subj: HeNe laser got one. any way to tell which terminal is POS/NEG? do it matter which way I hook it up? will it fry otherwise?--- * OFFLINE 1.58 * You can lead the mind to matter, but you can't make it think. --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: * After F/X * Rochester N.Y. 716-359-1662 (1:2613/415)