--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 270 DR WHO/BRIT SCIF Ref: E1400000Date: 12/31/96 From: JOE MASON Time: 10:40pm \/To: JAMES DIXON (Read 1 times) Subj: "Colin Baker is the anti- ""Colin Baker is the anti-", declared JAMES DIXON from the Vogon ship: JD>Did you read all the novelizations and not see any of the actual JD>episodes? Lots can be done in the books to save the scripts (in fact, Yep. They never showed anything after McCoy's first season around here, but a few weeks ago I noticed one of the New Adventures on the shelf in the library, so I went over to their computer and checked how many Doctor Who books they head. Turns out they had a whole shelf full of them, which I'd never seen cause they were in the juvenile section. So I got them all out - 18 of them. The librarians laughed at me when they saw the huge stack I was carrying. I had the last laugh, though - the computer system was down the day I returned them, and they were scrambling to get caught up by hand when I plunked these 18 books down in front of them! >:-> That was the week I was in bed with pneumonia, so I didn't have much else to do but lie around and read. Worked out pretty well. JD>All I Ever got out of this particular story was that the Gods of JD>Ragnarok were some aliens the Doctor had tangled with many years ago JD>in some undocumented adventure and that was that... That's all I got out of it too. But they didn't seem any worse then any other villians. The Greatest Show in the Galaxy book didn't seem too much more then a translation of the script (hard to tell without seeing the episode), but as I said before the Battlefield novelisation was excellent. The Paradise Towers book was, alas, just as bad as the episode - probably worse. Joe --- PCBoard (R) v15.3/10 * Origin: Timmins Area Bulletin Board (1:225/401) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 270 DR WHO/BRIT SCIF Ref: E1400001Date: 12/31/96 From: JOE MASON Time: 10:40pm \/To: THOMAS WINTER (Read 1 times) Subj: next Doctor? (was: docto "next Doctor? (was: docto", declared Thomas Winter from the Vogon ship: TW>JM> have its own in order to draw power. I also liked the TW>JM> Rassilon-era architecture of this part of the TARDIS (which was TW>presumably the first to be built), since TW>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ JM> it underscores the TW>fact that the Doctor has an older TARDIS. " Ah. What I meant is that the Eye of Harmony portal was the power-source for the TARDIS, so it would have to have been put there when they first built it (unless it got the power source completely ripped out and a new one installed). So the rooms around the power source would be among the oldest rooms in the TARDIS. The white panelled walls with roundels we're used to seem much newer, they were probably added later. I'd guess that newer TARDISes would probably have newer-looking architecture in their Eye of Harmony rooms. I didn't mean that the Doctor's TARDIS was one of the first ones, I meant that "this part of the TARDIS" was the first part of the TARDIS to be built. Sorry. :-} Joe --- PCBoard (R) v15.3/10 * Origin: Timmins Area Bulletin Board (1:225/401) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 270 DR WHO/BRIT SCIF Ref: E1400002Date: 12/31/96 From: JOE MASON Time: 10:40pm \/To: JAMES DIXON (Read 1 times) Subj: next Doctor? (was: docto "next Doctor? (was: docto", declared JAMES DIXON from the Vogon ship: JD>JM>Just look at Cushing's performance in Star Wars. Any man who can JD>JM>out- villian Vader deserves full credit for his abilities as an JD>JM>actor. :-) JD>I'm pretty sure the only reason he got that role was because he was, JD>at that time, almost typecast as a futuristic Nazi actor (undoubtedly JD>due to his role in "Shock Waves" I think it was called, made shortly JD>before Star Wars)... I'm embarrassed to admit it, but I've only actually seen him in Star Wars. But if he was type-cast, it was a GOOD type-casting: he fit the role so perfectly! (BTW, did you know all your messages are being posted twice? I've gotten two copies of everything you've written to me lately.) Joe --- PCBoard (R) v15.3/10 * Origin: Timmins Area Bulletin Board (1:225/401) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 270 DR WHO/BRIT SCIF Ref: E1400003Date: 12/28/96 From: ANTHONY VAN PYRE Time: 04:11am \/To: MITCH OBRECHT (Read 1 times) Subj: TWO QUESTIONS MO>Second, I just found out that my favorite doc (Colin Baker) has several MO>radio "episodes" on the BBC radio (no, I did not know about this, I just MO>got a copy of the programme guide and handbook today for christmas, and MO>about flipped when I saw them!). Do any of you know where I can get opies MO>of the radio programmes, or do you have copies that you could duplicate MO>for me? the ones for doc 6 that I know of are: Slipback (1985), MO>Nightmare Fair (1985) Ultimate Evil (1985), Mission to Magnus (1985) MO>as well as a "special" episode called In a fix with Sonatarans, part of he MO>"Jim'll fix it" show. um the last three were put out in book form as missing adventures i do ebleive i have slip pack on tape --- * OLX 2.1 TD * Press any key to continue or any other key to quit --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: The Coral Reef Home of Sapphire Software (1:239/600.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 270 DR WHO/BRIT SCIF Ref: E1400004Date: 12/28/96 From: ANTHONY VAN PYRE Time: 04:11am \/To: MICHAEL LAVALLEE (Read 1 times) Subj: TWO QUESTIONS ML>Colin Baker also stars in the Stranger series. I haven't been able to get ML>my hands on any of those... yet. i have the stranger vids --- * OLX 2.1 TD * Hello, I am part number ||#||||#||#||#|| --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: The Coral Reef Home of Sapphire Software (1:239/600.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 270 DR WHO/BRIT SCIF Ref: E1400005Date: 01/02/97 From: PHILL ASH Time: 08:13am \/To: STEVE QUARRELLA (Read 1 times) Subj: next Doctor? (was: docto PA> I think that was one of the main reasons that Colin's Doctor was PA> sinking in popularity, Colin played 'the alien' too well. SQ> the end, while Colin Baker's Doctor was such a drastic change from his SQ> two immediate predecessors that folks weren't interested in watching a SQ> declining show with an "unpopular" actor in the lead part. Note that Yer quite right... I'm not saying that mine is the *SOLE* reason but, to me, it's the main reason. (Remember that I'm in an area that didn't even get the PBS broadcasts, so I was not privy to the politics of the show at that time) From the Office of the DeathMaster General... ... You keep saying that. I do not think it means what you think it means. --- * spoo-tags v1.1 * ~~~ ReneWave v2.00 [NR] --- Smile :) * Origin: * The Beast's Lair * (804)498-3070 * Va Beach VA * (1:275/160) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 270 DR WHO/BRIT SCIF Ref: E1400006Date: 01/02/97 From: PHILL ASH Time: 08:13am \/To: MARY SINCLAIR (Read 1 times) Subj: movie PA> the Valeyard.... Does that mean that the Valeyard should also PA> be dismissed? MS> That's silly. I would like the movie to have been a hallucination of MS> Syldoc's or an alternate reality. It seemed to have happened, but it MS> didn't really. Then we could have Syl back or regenerate into an 8th, MS> McGann or other. ...only if it's carried off as an incident of psionic attack (or something with a bit more scientific basis than "just a dream") From the Office of the DeathMaster General... --- spoo-tags v1.1 Error reading REALITY.SYS, Run BIG_BANG.EXE (Y/Y)? ~~~ ReneWave v2.00 [NR] --- Smile :) * Origin: * The Beast's Lair * (804)498-3070 * Va Beach VA * (1:275/160) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 270 DR WHO/BRIT SCIF Ref: E1400007Date: 12/20/96 From: STEVE QUARRELLA Time: 06:46pm \/To: DAVE ALGER (Read 1 times) Subj: Delenn Lunae dies December 16 1996, Dixit Dave Alger ad Steve Quarrella: SQ> JFD>> when it comes to attidute.. Well in all but one aspect that is... SQ> JFD>> (She clearly is smitten with a human male) SQ>> And this is topical...how? DA> 'Cos it's Sci-fi, it's about half-human half-wossnames and because it DA> just is. Because it isn't. Take it elsewhere. Discussion in this echo about this issue is over: Any responses should be sent via netmail -only.- Please see the echo guidelines as to what is topical before telling me "it just is." Steve Quarrella, Moderator --- GoldED 2.51.A1026+ - Spank Our Wombats! * Origin: Valencia: "Smarter than the average bear." (1:124/9005) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 270 DR WHO/BRIT SCIF Ref: E1400008Date: 12/20/96 From: STEVE QUARRELLA Time: 06:49pm \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Echo Guidelines 1/2 The International Doctor Who and British Science-Fiction TV Conference Last updated: 12/20/96 Why are we here? ================ Of course, the main focus is upon the long-lived British SF program Doctor Who, but discussion of other popular British SF shows such as Red Dwarf, Blake's 7, The Prisoner, The Avengers, et al, is not only permissable but also ENCOURAGED. These are some great programs, so spread the word! Also permitted here is discussion of British comedy, with the sole exception being Monty Python's Flying Circus. Monty Python is a great show, but it is very very likely that the echo would be deluged by Python-wannabes if the how was included here. Besides, there is already a backboned echo called MONTE [sic]: That echo will whet the appetite of those of you who are eager to impress the planet with your knowledge of the Latin bits from "The Holy Grail." In the meantime, by all means feel free to discuss shows like Are You Being Served?, Black Adder, Benny Hill, or whatever else you've seen on PBS or BBCx. Some hints and tips, as well as some rules and regulations ========================================================== FIDONET, FREQ, POINT, NODE, NODELIST: These are terms that apply to the computer network that carries this and many other conferences. Ask your sysop to clarify these terms for you if you think "FREQ" refers to streaking through the streets of Dallas. 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(1:124/9005) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 270 DR WHO/BRIT SCIF Ref: E1400009Date: 12/20/96 From: STEVE QUARRELLA Time: 06:48pm \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Echo Guidelines 2/2 QUOTING: This is important, as this echo is distributed overseas to areas outside of North America, on someone's long-distance nickel: We are urrently seen in the United Kingdom, Australia, New Zealand, and South Africa. Because of this, it's important to not be shipping excess baggage around, so here are two guidelines for quoting: 1) When you reply to a message, please use the quoting feature of your BBS to quote a few lines of the original poster's message so as to refresh his or her memory about what you were talking. Remember that some folks carry on multiple conversations, and when you out of the clear blue sky say "Yeah, I've got some information on that...want me to dig it up?", the target probably has no idea about what you're talking. If your BBS software has no quoting feature, please say something like "Yo! We were talking about X or Y" and then add your text. 2) Overquoting is a big problem out in Fidonet. There's no need to quote an entire message, because by doing so, you're wasting bandwidth and you're sending a new copy of the entire message around the world. Remember that someone somewhere pays for this, and we need to trim the excess fat out of our messages so as to keep those costs as low as possible. Please be certain that you do not quote the tagline (those cute 'bumper sticker' messages at the bottom of a message), the tearline (You'll see one next to "Via Silver Xpress" in some messages), or the origin line (You'll see the text "Origin: ". Neither do you need to quote any lines that say "X said to Y on such and such date." In the case of tearlines and origin lines, besides being unnecessary when quoting, these may bomb someone's software somewhere. In the case of taglines or headers, these are plain unnecessary. Just quote whatever you need to jumpstart the other guy's memory. As a general rule of thumb, IF YOU'RE QUOTING MORE THAN A HALF SCREEN FULL OF TEXT AT A TIME, YOU'RE OVERQUOTING: Try to include more of your own message than the other guy's message. TAPE SWAPPING: I have no problem with tape swapping, but I prefer that the finer details of tape exchanges be taken to netmail if you're going to be wheeling and dealing for a while. If you don't have netmail access, either leave a number or an address at which you can be reached, or make your deal short and sweet ("Here's what I want, here's what I'll send."). However, let's obey the law here: You may ONLY exchange tapes that were made from off-air broadcasts, and you may NOT make a profit from it. This means that you should not be offering to dupe THE TROUGHTON YEARS for anybody, but if someone needs a copy of INFERNO for his collection and you were fortunate enough to tape it from PBS or whomever, you may talk business. Offers for recompensation as far as tape costs and shipping and handling are acceptable. I have no problems either with "I'm looking for _____" messages so long as you don't get ridiculous about it. [Also, FYI, the CBS/Fox videotapes contain copy protection, so if you're going to be duping those behind closed doors, your copy will look terrible.] Note also that disk swaps should follow the above criteria. TREK TALK: OK, OK, so you think the Borg remind you of the Cybermen or the Daleks. You know that Patrick Stewart once expressed an interest in playing the part of the Doctor. There are some DW references in a few of the Star Trek novels. If you can carry on a conversation about these issues while sticking to the WHO-related angle of things, beautiful. But let's avoid the Trek angle: There are Trek-specific conferences for this kind of discussion. VHS/Beta Wars: This is totally off-topic. ENJOY THE ECHO: Unless you're here to be a jerk, please don't take any moderator messages personally, and of course, there's no need to reply to them. There are some exceptionally wise people in this echo who can just talk your ear off about certain British SF-related topics, and this is a great place to chat about how much you enjoy X or Y program while learning a bit about it. You might even find out about some OTHER "must see" program: Many people have become hopelessly addicted to Red Dwarf after becoming involved in conversations about it here in this echo. And of course, the usual Fidonet rule applies: Do not easily annoy, do not be easily annoyed. Be sure to treat others as you would have them treat you. FLAMING: Excessive foul or obscene language, ad hominem attacks, or "My show's better than yours" rants will not be tolerated. Wanna flame? Go to the BITCH echo (Or whatever they're calling it these days.). If there's some guy who's bugging the pants off of you but not breaking any rules, you may wish to consider using a "twit filter" if you're using an offline reader. Of course, there are those of us who may take a jab at a pal of ours every so often...this is fine, but if it gets out of control, I'll step in. FRAZER HINES: The spelling of Frazer Hines's first name is "Frazer", without an 'i' like "Frazier". FINALLY: Leave all moderating to the moderator. If someone breaks an echo rule, let ME take care of it. Personally, "Sysop-Wannabes" become tiring after a while, so put away your ducks, torches, and pitchforks, and do your damnedest to resist the temptation to get in a jab before I see the message. If someone comes out and posts fifty ads for Evil Ed's BBS, you're only going to make things worse by saying "You jerk!" out in the echo, because if everybody does that, you've got more "You jerk!" messages than WHO-related messages. If you must reply, PLEASE reply in netmail, and be kind: Mistakes happen. Rest assured, though, that I will track things down and wake up the sysop of the offending node. If someone comes out and says "Doctor Who is a show unworthy of my piranha! LOVE BOAT RULZ!", -ignore him or her-. I'll take care of him, and again, you only add to the bandwidth by saying "You jerk!" And for Pete's sake, don't go out into the LOVE_BOAT conference and say "Doctor Who rulz!" to get even with the poor bugger: He's got enough problems as it is. Let me answer all test messages. Some poor soul will occasionally have his system set up incorrectly, and you'll see some sort of "This is a test. Am I getting through, Myron?" message. Please ignore these, although you have my blessing to send NETMAIL to the effect of "Yes, you're being seen in Tanzania!" so he doesn't think he's beaming his messages to the moon. Likewise, please ignore messages that are obvious garbage, or that are improperly placed. Of course, there is no Rule #3. And as I said, enjoy the echo! It's yours...I'm just the cat-herder whose job is to keep discussion reasonably on topic and within the bounds of good taste and common sense. :) Mary Sinclair, Moderator WHO "la mod" Co-starring: Steve Quarrella, Retired Old Fart Moderator (1:124/9005) Special Guest Stars: Dave Macfarlane (2:259/41), who is providing the Zone 2 <> Zone 1 link with my system (1:124/9005). Lewin Edwards (3:634/396) who is providing the Zone 3 <> Zone 1 link with my system (1:124/9005). Henk Wolsink (Zone 5 ZC) who pulled us through the Z5 zonegate into Africa. --- GoldED 2.51.A1026+ - Spank Our Wombats! * Origin: Valencia: "Smarter than the average bear." (1:124/9005)