--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 269 DELPHI Ref: E1500003 Date: 01/04/97 From: TOMMY USHER Time: 01:12pm \/To: LOUIS RIZZUTO (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: Mastering Delphi?? bo LR>I recently was referred by Borland to a comapny called ZAC Catalogs. urns LR>out LR>not only does this catalog list some great Delphi Tools but it also sells LR>Delphi Books - including one by Tom Swan - a author I particulary like. If it is the one called "Foundations of Delphi Programming for Windows 95," be warned, it is actually a book on Delphi 1.0 programming, and contains NOTHING about 2.0. Strange as that may seem, apparently the book was written before 2.0 came out, and so they changed the title. He has a newer book out, "Delphi 2 Secrets," which is much better for Delphi 2.0. Though it does seem a bit short on "secrets." LR>Also turns out that this catalog lists a follow-on book for Delphi 2.0 - LR>'Mastering Delphi 2.0' from Sybex, same author, Marco Contu, so I now have a LR>source that satifies me in this regard. You must not live near a Barnes & Noble book store. They generally carry the current books on Delphi programming. BTW, "Delphi Programming for Dummies, Second Edition," is a must-read. While it is short on details, it has some of the best examples of how to do things of any book out there, and in fact, is one of the only books I have seen that gives details on the mysterious ListView components. LR>But there are also is a book listing for a book that concentrates on LR>developing LR>components and another that focus's on the Internet. The book on components that they list is for Delphi 1.0. There is another book, more recent, called "Programming Delphi Custom Components" which covers Delphi 2. BTW, one other book they list, "Delphi 2.0 Tutor," is useless for all but those who are really beginning programmers. I bought a copy, but took it back the next day. I was really disappointed. LR>The only Tool I could not find in this catalog is one for implmenting LR>Context LR>Sensitive Help - a 3rd party Tool(as opposed to one supplied by Delphi). LR>know there is a 3rd party company that does suppliy this Help Tool but I LR>don't LR>recall their contact information. I can find it if anyone needs this LR>contact. I don't know of one, right off hand...but.... LR>BTW, Tommy, does Dephi supply a Context Sensitive Help Tool internal to this LR>product or does on have to buy a 3rd party Tool? In the 4 books I have on LR>Delphi, 3 of them copyrighted in 1996, I don't see any specific, detail LR>description of how to implement Context Sensitive Help. Seems weird to me LR>that LR>Delphi wouldn't have a good internal tool for creating Help. Got a clue? That is because Delphi DOES have the tools to create Context Sensitive Help. I'm just not remotely sure how one does it. Look in the "Tools" folder that is in the "Help" folder, and you should find them. LR>Someone out there besides me must need Context Sensitive Help for their LR>Delphi LR>Apps, eh? :) I know it is there, but I am really not sure how it works, as I haven't used it yet. (I do know it involves creating a KWF file with one program, and then use the Help Installation program, the on a lot of components have you use, to install it.) I can, however tell you where to find out. Get a copy of "Secrets of Delphi 2." by Ray Lischner, or "Peter Norton's Guide to Delphi 2." Both cover the subject, though the book "Secrets of Delphi 2," appears to be better. --- * QMPro 1.52 * ++++++ Hey Rocky, watch me pull a tagline outta my hat! --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: GC-BBS! (1:226/810.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 269 DELPHI Ref: E1500004 Date: 01/04/97 From: TOMMY USHER Time: 01:16pm \/To: DEREK BENNER (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: Newest ver DB>Guess again! VB5 STILL has the everpresent VBRUN500.DLL and it'd better e DB>on DB>the system or you're going to have a problem. (However, MS gets around DB>this by DB>directing the DLL to \Windows\System directory so that *you* don't see hat DB>2.5Megabyte honker!) Also, VB does NOT create a full-blown executable. DB>Instead, a background, stripped VC++ compiler does. AND, Boy is that sucker DB>SLOW! Amazing... I had read several places how VB was going to FINALLY be a "real" compiler. Oh well, I really should have known better.... What puzzles me, is why does Microsoft even want to compile to p-code? I mean, I cut my professional programming teeth on UCSD p-System, where the idea was, you compile to p-Code on one system, copy that to another system, and run it without recompiling. I've seen no such approach with Visual Basic. I mean, what system would you run it on? A Mac? UNIX? What? DB>Furthermore, VB is STILL not capable of inheritance so CANNOT be called DB>Object-Oriented YET!!! Figures.... And yet, we will hear how much better VB is. --- * QMPro 1.52 * "I ought to cast you out, or smite you, or something." -Q --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: GC-BBS! (1:226/810.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 269 DELPHI Ref: E1B00000 Date: 01/05/97 From: LOUIS RIZZUTO Time: 05:35pm \/To: STEVE BATSON (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: Newest ver *** Quoting Steve Batson from a message to Derek Benner *** DB> creating a DCU version. Also, D97 was significantly faster in DB> creating an OCX version. The OCX was smaller too! SB> Not surprised, I may have to use VB and other stuff for some projects SB> at work, but I am sticking with Delphi for my own use. Hi, Steve. Yes, I concur fully. I do wonder if companies are adopting Delphi tho' since i do not see much demand for Delphi at the contract/consulting level. There does seem some activity at the direct job level. I wonder if Delphi is used more in Europe then in the USA. One book I have on mastering Delphi is written by an Italian fello from Itlay and he claims Pascal is more popular in the Universities and in the workplace in Europe. Got any thoughts to share? Regards, -= Lou =- --- Telegard v3.02/mL * Origin: [Toon Town USA] Open 24/7 - 28.8k [914-838-3073] (1:2624/505) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 269 DELPHI Ref: E1B00001 Date: 01/05/97 From: LOUIS RIZZUTO Time: 05:53pm \/To: TOMMY USHER (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: Delphi Costs Hi, Tommy. *** Quoting Tommy Usher from a message to Louis Rizzuto *** LR>Not many I have seen will train new college graduates or even experienced LR>staff LR>employees. TU> Don't get me wrong. I was speaking in practical terms, not ideal. TU> Yes, a school should give some real experience, but most don't. As i was ttrying to say in my previous msg to you, locally the only thing available that might bring practical 'how to's' to experienced programmers is in adult education(no credit). The master degree pgms here are similar to the undergraduate - namely theory, little practical experience. The problem seems to be whether the adult education part of most colleges or universities have the hardware necessary for practical courses - even on Delphi - simple Developer edition type Delphi. It seems to get worst for Delphi C/S. Well like anything else I have to wonder the future of those universities/colleges that do NOT offer a Delphi C/S or other similar type course back up with the correct hardware required. A recent survey on my part of a few colleges/universities - just local ones- revealed the impression that most colleges and univerities are still using Netware Networks w/ IBM Compatible Win 3.1 workstations - or Aplle Mac's. This is the cheapest equipment for Networks and these scools seem hamstrung for the money necessary for state-of-the-art hardware/systems - like Win NT Servers/UNIX servers, etc.. But wait, it just occurred to me that a huge part of the Internet is Univarsity/college based, right? And their systems are mostly UNIX, right? And it is possible to have a UNIX server to Win workstations, right? So there is some hope there. Delphi doesn't run under UNIX tho', right? I am getting a headache. :) Any thoughts you care to add? Anyone else can jump in if it is off interest. :) Regards, -= Lou =- --- Telegard v3.02/mL * Origin: [Toon Town USA] Open 24/7 - 28.8k [914-838-3073] (1:2624/505) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 269 DELPHI Ref: E1B00002 Date: 01/05/97 From: LOUIS RIZZUTO Time: 06:02pm \/To: TOMMY USHER (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: Delphi Costs HI, Tommy. *** Quoting Tommy Usher from a message to Louis Rizzuto *** TU> Well, the new C++ product, will be C++ with a Delphi-style interface. TU> As to BDE, I haven't dealt much with it. I believe it does have a TU> separate forum on Compuserve. LR>More to the point will Borland's Visual Builder for C++ support BDE and a LR>C/S LR>edition? Similarly will their Java support a C/S and BDE? If so Borland's LR>Java TU> Well, the new C++ product, will be C++ with a Delphi-style interface. TU> As to BDE, I haven't dealt much with it. I believe it does have a TU> separate forum on Compuserve. LR>More to the point will Borland's Visual Builder for C++ support BDE and a LR>C/S LR>edition? Similarly will their Java support a C/S and BDE? If so Borland's LR>Java LR>may be the tool to use to develop apps ythat will run across platforms. I LR>have LR>many questions - not too many answers yet. Anyone got ansers? TU> I would assume it would support BDE, but I don't know yet. --- * Yes, well if I will be up on Borland's web page to pursue this information and will post what I learn if anyone shows any interest in this stuff. I need to resolve these issues so I can continue my development. Regards, -= Lou =- --- Telegard v3.02/mL * Origin: [Toon Town USA] Open 24/7 - 28.8k [914-838-3073] (1:2624/505) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 269 DELPHI Ref: E1B00003 Date: 01/05/97 From: LOUIS RIZZUTO Time: 06:09pm \/To: ALL (Read 2 times) Subj: Newsgroups for Delphi. Hi, everyone. Borland's web site has a bunch of Delphi newsgroups - some in other languages besides english. If anyone is interested I will post these newsgroups addresses. Anyone interested? Btw, if you have internet access I highly recommend Borland's web site. It drips with information of a useful nature - including specs for Borland products - and tons of other stuff. http://www.borland.com is Borland's web address. Btw if you make a mistake and use 'www.borland.net' you will get a totally different site - which you may be interested in pursuing - but it is NOT a Borland site. Regards, -= Lou =- --- Telegard v3.02/mL * Origin: [Toon Town USA] Open 24/7 - 28.8k [914-838-3073] (1:2624/505) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 269 DELPHI Ref: E1B00004 Date: 01/06/97 From: DALE BARNES Time: 12:9:am \/To: ALL (Read 2 times) Subj: Brand New Developer 2.0 For Sale If you are looking for a deal on Delphi 2.0 Developer then here it is or at least it was when I last look at prices. We purchased one to many copies and never got around to sending it back but I already own a C/S version and a Developer version so this one has got to go. Price is $110.00 USD and I will pay for shipping. Most of the manuals are still wrapped and the CD is still wrapped. All paperwork including the poster and registration card are there. If Interested, please do not post in the echo but send either netmail to me at 1:106/201 or via email at dbarnes@majik.net to work out the details. Thanks, Dale Barnes --- WinToss/16 v0.8.2 [Beta]/ * Origin: Home of WinToss, The Windows Mail Processor (1:106/201) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 269 DELPHI Ref: E1B00005 Date: 01/05/97 From: GARY WEINFURTHER Time: 09:06am \/To: TOMMY USHER (Read 2 times) Subj: Delphi Costs Stop this thread now. This is not about Delphi. ...Gary Weinfurther, DELPHI Moderator --- GoldED 2.41 * Origin: The Flying Circus BBS, Farmington Hills, MI. (1:2410/905) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 269 DELPHI Ref: E1C00000 Date: 01/05/97 From: ROBERT WILKINSON Time: 11:46pm \/To: ALL (Read 2 times) Subj: Images in TMemo? Hello everyone! Is it possible to display images in the standard TMemo component shipped with Delphi 1.0? If not, does anyone have, or know where to get a custom memo component that does support displaying images? thanks, -=> Bob <=- --- FalkenRdr V1.9d * Origin: Kennewick,WA <509-586-3157> - (1:3407/7) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 269 DELPHI Ref: E1C00001 Date: 01/04/97 From: GARY WEINFURTHER Time: 09:19am \/To: DEREK BENNER (Read 2 times) Subj: Delphi Jobs Derek Benner mentioned this to Louis Rizzuto: DB> It's quite simple. VB is produced by MS. 'You can't be fired for DB> suggesting use of MS products.' Therefore, in management's mind, VB is DB> 'better than' Delphi, never mind the facts. After all, if we use his DB> products we'll become multi-billionaires, too. RIGHT????? All right, stop this right now. This is off-topic and against the rules of this echo. ...Gary Weinfurther, DELPHI Moderator --- GoldED 2.41 * Origin: The Flying Circus BBS. (1:2410/905)