--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 267 SUPRA MODEMS Ref: DAQ00000 Date: 06/20/96 From: PATRICK MOORE Time: 08:28am \/To: MARTIN SCHILLER (Read 5 times) Subj: BETA CONNECT RATES MS> > At first I thought that it was just the Couriers that were MS> > affected, but it appears now that all of my previously reported MS> > 28800 connects have now become 26400 connects. On one connect MS> > that I watched yesterday, the display showed rx26/tx28 but on MS> > others it showed both ways 26. I've sent e-mail to betarep. I MS> > will continue to use the 1.44 unless the connects degrade MS> > further. I've also posted in the BINKLEY echo, in case there are MS> > configuration changes in Bink that I should have made. MS> PM> What do you currently have S191 set to? MS> PM> Try reducing is a few numbers and see if it helps. MS>The setting was 129, apparently changed from the default 128 in the MS>1.3 rom. I tried reducing it by twos down to 121 without effecting MS>any apparent change in the connect rates with the 33.6 capable MS>the Courier that I'm most concerned about, NEC. The connects MS>continued to be at 26400. I jumped to S191=111 and still no change. I MS>have reset it to S191=128 unless you think that further MS>experimentation with that setting would be worthwhile. Interesting. Then it is something acting differently at the remote end (it as final say in the carrier rate it uses to send data to your end). I don't know the Couriers that well, but if they have a Bias adjustment, it my need to be set a bit more aggressively. CMPQwk1.42 331Where does the data written to device NUL go? --- FLAME v1.1 * Origin: Supra BBS - Technical Support is "SUPRA CORP" (1:357/4) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 267 SUPRA MODEMS Ref: DAQ00001 Date: 06/18/96 From: RACHEL VAN WINKLE Time: 11:33pm \/To: ALL (Read 4 times) Subj: INIT STRING HELP!!! NEEDED!!! VERY BADLY!!! oh ... anyways ... here's the deal ... me and my friend wanna play deathmatch on a game and we keep getting an error "INVALID GAME PACKETS (1 TOO MANY BYTES)" customer support said I need an INIT STRING that disables ERROR CORRECTION AND DATA CORRECTION. I have a SupraExpress 144 PLUS. ANY HELP IS GGGGRRRREEEEAAAATTTTLLLLYYY APPRECIATED!!! PLEASE HELP MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeee!!! Rachel Van Winkle ___ {~._.~} ( Y ) ()~S~() /(_)_(_)\ ~ ~ --- QScan/PCB v1.19b / 01-0456 * Origin: Joe's Place BBS * Del Rio, TX * >>210-774-1021<< (1:19/29) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 267 SUPRA MODEMS Ref: DAR00000 Date: 06/20/96 From: FLOYD DRENNON Time: 06:42pm \/To: CRAIG FORD (Read 4 times) Subj: PAIR GAIN PHONE SYSTEM Hi Craig, BM>> Also, I was told by a communications engineer that channel banking BM>> a T1 into analog modems usually results in successful bps rates BM>> well below 28.8k...like 14.4 - 19.2 reliably. CF> T1 is most-of-all a bit-rate and electrical specification, and is CF> typically delivered on two pair (one transmit and one receive). It's a CF> base data rate of 1.544 Mbits that is broken into 8000 frames per second CF> of 193 bits. Of those 1 is framing, and the other 192 are data. Things CF> get a bit confusing thereon because there are a lot of options, one eing CF> the framing format used. For example, it could be the format expected by CF> a D4 channel bank (which is fairly common). CF> In D4 framing, the 192 bits are divided into 24 8-bit channels, designed CF> to carry voice signals. Twelve of these frames are grouped together CF> logically into a super-frame, and in the 6th and 12th frames of the CF> super-frame the LSB of each channel is dropped and becomes a signalling CF> bit (called "A" and "B"). These correspond to E & M on some trunks, or n CF> other circuits they indicate loop status. Because of the robbed bits in CF> this format, you can't use all 8 bits all the time. The result is that CF> data circuits that share a T-1 with D4 channels can only be 56,000 bits CF> per second. Another popular framing format is Extended-Super-Frame, hich CF> is similar to D4, but the superframes are 24 frames long with 4 CF> signalling bits. CF> Neither apprecialy affects analog modem performance. Isn't there a digital/analog conversion each time it goes thru the channel bank resulting in further loss? fdrennon@pobox.com --- * Origin: Floyd's Folly, WARP & USR v.34 - The BEST (1:375/100) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 267 SUPRA MODEMS Ref: DAR00001 Date: 06/21/96 From: MARTIN SCHILLER Time: 08:00am \/To: PATRICK MOORE (Read 5 times) Subj: BETA CONNECT RATES Patrick Moore wrote in a message to Martin Schiller: PM> Interesting. Then it is something acting differently at PM> the remote end (it as final say in the carrier rate it uses PM> to send data to your end). I don't know the Couriers that PM> well, but if they have a Bias adjustment, it my need to be PM> set a bit more aggressively. But in this case connects that were consistently 28800 before flashing with the beta have dropped to 26400 and the NEC reports that he IS 33.6 capable, which he would only know if he connected at 33.6 with someone else. As I said earlier, I beta-flashed two modems and I just tried to connect from the second modem and the connect rate was 26400! They both report ATI 33600 and +MS=V34,1,300,33600. Can I expect any feedback from betarep, or is that primarily input? Regards, Martin --- * Origin: West Providence BBS/West Valley Hub * 408-366-0582 * (1:143/1200) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 267 SUPRA MODEMS Ref: DAR00002 Date: 06/21/96 From: MARTIN SCHILLER Time: 10:34am \/To: PATRICK MOORE (Read 5 times) Subj: BETA CONNECT RATES following up a message from Martin Schiller to Patrick Moore: MS> As I said earlier, I beta-flashed two modems and I just tried to MS> connect from the second modem and the connect rate was 26400! They MS> both report ATI 33600 and +MS=V34,1,300,33600. I tried forcing the higher connects between the two SFM 288s with the +MS command. AT+MS=,,288 resulted in 28800 connect AT+MS=,,336 resulted in additional tone during negotiation, but no connect. AT+MS=,,312 resulted in additional tone during negotiation, but no connect. Regards, Martin --- * Origin: West Providence BBS/West Valley Hub * 408-366-0582 * (1:143/1200) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 267 SUPRA MODEMS Ref: DAR00003 Date: 06/20/96 From: MICHIEL WILLEMS Time: 04:36pm \/To: ALL (Read 4 times) Subj: Problems with SFM 288 and GPFax Hi there, I have a problem with my SupraFaxModem 28k8 (rom 1.440-09, rev4) and GPFax v2.342 Supra 27.7.93 for the Amiga. When I start GPFax, it CAN'T find the modem. It keeps saying 'Where is the modem?'. I have EVERYTHING installed correctly. This happened AFTER I put the latest Flashrom in my SupraFaxmodem. It worked like a charm before the upgrade!! What might be the problem?? And how can I fix it?? Thanks in advance!! Greetz, Michiel Willems sysop@aobh.xs4all.nl --- Zeus BBS 1.1 * Origin: AOBH -> Zeus Beta Tester -> +31-23-5282002/5470739 (2:280/464.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 267 SUPRA MODEMS Ref: DAR00004 Date: 06/20/96 From: ROBBY DITTMANN Time: 06:42pm \/To: MARTIN SCHILLER (Read 4 times) Subj: Connect problem MS> It's a Binkley problem related to the Ringtries verb. MS> Try increasing the count to exceed the number of lines MS> you're reporting with the connect strings. I think that MS> the default is three. Thanks! That seems to have fixed the problem, though I must admit I can't figure out why RINGTRIES should affect anything after the phone is answered. Robby --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: Red Shift BBS ... Snellville, Ga. ... (770) 979-9467 (1:133/8003) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 267 SUPRA MODEMS Ref: DAR00005 Date: 06/21/96 From: CRAIG FORD Time: 08:02pm \/To: FLOYD DRENNON (Read 4 times) Subj: PAIR GAIN PHONE SYSTEM Floyd Drennon wrote the following to Craig Ford, and I quote (in part): -=> Note: Copied from SUPRAFAX by WIMM/2 1.31 CF> Neither apprecialy affects analog modem performance. FD> Isn't there a digital/analog conversion each time it goes thru the FD> channel bank resulting in further loss? Yes. Regards.... Craig aka: cford@ix.netcom.com --- timEd/2 1.10+ * Origin: Dayze of Futures Past * V.Everything * 713-458-0237 * (1:106/2001) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 267 SUPRA MODEMS Ref: DAR00006 Date: 06/21/96 From: PATRICK MOORE Time: 03:07pm \/To: MARTIN SCHILLER (Read 5 times) Subj: BETA CONNECT RATES >PM> Interesting. Then it is something acting differently at >PM> the remote end (it as final say in the carrier rate it uses >PM> to send data to your end). I don't know the Couriers that >PM> well, but if they have a Bias adjustment, it my need to be >PM> set a bit more aggressively. > > But in this case connects that were consistently 28800 before > flashing with the beta have dropped to 26400 and the NEC reports > that he IS 33.6 capable, which he would only know if he connected at > 33.6 with someone else. > As I said earlier, I beta-flashed two modems and I just tried to > connect from the second modem and the connect rate was 26400! They > both report ATI 33600 and +MS=V34,1,300,33600. > Can I expect any feedback from betarep, or is that primarily input? Mostly input for betarep. If you flash back, does it go back to 28.8k? -Patrick --- FLAME v1.1 * Origin: Supra BBS - Technical Support is "SUPRA CORP" (1:357/4) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 267 SUPRA MODEMS Ref: DAR00007 Date: 06/21/96 From: PATRICK MOORE Time: 03:08pm \/To: RACHEL VAN WINKLE (Read 4 times) Subj: INIT STRING RV>MSGID: 1:19/29@fidonet.org 59fafb13 RV>HELP!!! NEEDED!!! VERY BADLY!!! oh ... anyways ... here's the deal RV>... me and my friend wanna play deathmatch on a game and we keep RV>getting an error "INVALID GAME PACKETS (1 TOO MANY BYTES)" customer RV>support said I need an INIT STRING that disables ERROR CORRECTION AND RV>DATA CORRECTION. I have a SupraExpress 144 PLUS. ANY HELP IS RV>GGGGRRRREEEEAAAATTTTLLLLYYY APPRECIATED!!! PLEASE HELP RV>MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeee!!! Just add \N0 to the init string to disable both. :-) CMPQwk1.42 331Where does the data written to device NUL go? --- FLAME v1.1 * Origin: Supra BBS - Technical Support is "SUPRA CORP" (1:357/4)