--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 265 EDUCATOR Ref: EE500001 Date: 10/04/97 From: DAN TRIPLETT Time: 10:31am \/To: ERICA LONG (Read 0 times) Subj: Quiet ERICA LONG spoke of Quiet to DAN TRIPLETT on 10-02-97 EL>Our federal education minister said he is going to make us do 90 mins EL>a day on literacy activities. That'll improve standards!!! In EL>Queensland, the minimum is eight hours a week. Wonder if he should do EL>some maths, come to a real school or just stop sabre rattling.... EL>Erica, EL>just having a mental break from a work block on the assignment I am EL>writing... EL>Bring on Spring. The Peter Principle at work! Our State is currently undergoing some important changes regarding standards -- their being raised! Imagine that! However, the changes occurred only after educators, parents, businesses, and administrators (promoted educators?) got together to play. It's been several years in the making. Interestingly the Commission on Student Learning has said that the Whole Language approach to learning offers students the best learning opportunities. The commission cited New Zealand with the second best literacy rate in the world as an example where Whole Language is alive and well. Take Care, Dan CMPQwk 1.42 445p Windows NT is the OS of the future and always will be... * ++++++ * _ /| ACK! \'o.O' / =(__)+ U --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: R-Squared BBS (1:352/28.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 265 EDUCATOR Ref: EEA00000 Date: 10/04/97 From: DARRELL BENVENUTO Time: 03:46pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Art Students Hey there, everybody. Whee! Another weekend. Another break from the grind. There's an interesting opportunity I've found out about for gifted art students that are thinking of possible careers in animation. There's a company that's opening up an Animation Internship program for High School and College art students, that's got offices on Long Island. If you're interested getting some information on this program for your students, the name of the contact person over there is Jeremy Bernal, and their number is (516) 484-4358. --- Maximus 2.02 * Origin: The United Front BBS (718-886-6797) (1:278/523) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 265 EDUCATOR Ref: EEB00000 Date: 10/05/97 From: SHEILA KING Time: 11:28pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Educator guidelines ====================================== | Purpose of the EDUCATOR conference | ====================================== The EDUCATOR conference is an electronic meeting place where Educators from around the world can gather to discuss issues related to their profession. (This area is NOT a complaint forum for the general public on the sad state of education. Non-professional educators should refrain from critical remarks on the length of teachers' work schedules, their motivation and dedication, their reasons for choosing their profession and the like. Such remarks are non-productive and off-topic. Similarly, comparisons between professions attempting to show teachers do no more or no less than persons in other professions are off-topic.) =========================================================== | GUIDELINES for participation in the EDUCATOR Conference | =========================================================== 1. TREAT OTHERS WITH RESPECT. Do not engage in name calling or "flaming" with other individuals. Likewise, insults against groups or professions will not be tolerated. If discussion does not lead you to agree with others, politely agree to disagree. If a message makes you mad, either do not reply, or wait a day or two to reply until you have "cooled off". 2. WRITE MESSAGES OF GENERAL INTEREST. Observe the purpose of this echo and do not post "off-topic" messages (see below). Off-topic responses should be handled in netmail. Use local echoes on your BBS for personal exchanges. This is an international conference. Persons in Australia do not care about your meeting in NY. 3. BE BRIEF. Quote just enough of the message to which you are replying to remind others of the context of your reply. Do not repeat yourself in multiple messages. Do not post LONG texts from other sources (more than 3 or 4 pages). If unsure, check with the Moderator before posting. Enter only a few messages each day. 4. IGNORE INAPPROPRIATE MESSAGES. Let the Moderator and Sysops do their job. Do not respond to such posts nor discuss them in the conference. You may send netmail or e-mail to the Moderator or bring it to your Sysop's attention. 5. TAKE DIRECTION FROM THE MODERATOR GRACEFULLY, whether it occurs in private netmail or in the conference. It is no big deal and there is no need to discuss it. Just get back on track so we can all enjoy this forum. OFF-TOPIC SUBJECTS. DO NOT DISCUSS THESE IN THIS AREA: ======================================================= Creationism vs. Evolution, Politics, Religion, Separation of Church & State, Homeschooling. There are other appropriate conferences for these topics. In conclusion, please enjoy participating here. Take what you can learn from the echo. Contribute with a mind towards being informative and constructive. And if I can be of any help, let me know. (last updated 7/27/96) Sheila King Moderator, EDUCATOR 1:218/804 cking@wenet.net <----- new e-mail * SLMR 2.1a * * SLMR 2.1a * --- DB 1.39/004485 * Origin: The Diamond Bar BBS, San Dimas CA, 909-599-2088 (1:218/1001) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 265 EDUCATOR Ref: EEB00001 Date: 10/05/97 From: SHEILA KING Time: 11:28pm \/To: DAN TRIPLETT (Read 0 times) Subj: Long time no talk DT> Hey....it's too quiet in here! Help, I am going through withdrawal! DT> Lets get a good topic going. Hmmmmmm any ideas? DT> Whole Language (again?) DT> Standards? DT> Invented Spelling? DT> Skill and Drill? DT> Professionalism? DT> work sheets? DT> Authentic Assessment? DT> Chess? Well, at our school we are getting ready to try out a new schedule that we plan to implement next year. We will be doing 60 minute classes 4 days a week (this means that one day a week we miss one of our classes). The schedule has other bonusses, like early dismissal on Fridays, and time for meetings on Wed. morning. We plan to implement the schedule during 98-99 school year but we will try it out for two weeks beginning Oct. 13th, and then for another two weeks in March, to get ourselves prepared. Some of the teachers are concerned about not seeing their students every day, especially in the lower ability courses. Sheila King * SLMR 2.1a * --- DB 1.39/004485 * Origin: The Diamond Bar BBS, San Dimas CA, 909-599-2088 (1:218/1001) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 265 EDUCATOR Ref: EEC00000 Date: 10/06/97 From: RON MCDERMOTT Time: 08:10am \/To: DAN TRIPLETT (Read 0 times) Subj: Hi.. RM>DT>Chess? RM>KP-K4 DT>Hi Ron.....how is the year going? Pretty well.. Good classes/kids.. Due to some OTHER people not getting their act together, I'm going to be involved in a computer project NOW, which should have been done this summer; annoying! We're converting our physics lab program from Apple to IBM.. I'm cobbling together some 386 and 486 machines which no one wanted , to make 14 IBM Windows-based workstations. We're reviewing new software, have to install, convert our data- gathering probes, etc, and write up a lab program. Would have been a LOT easier this summer! %-[ ___ * MR/2 2.26 * MSDOS&PCDOS&CP/M&WINDOWSI'LLFIDDLEWITHOS/2WOULDN'TYOU? --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: The Reading Room (1:272/160) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 265 EDUCATOR Ref: EEE00000 Date: 10/08/97 From: KEVIN CROSBY Time: 09:08pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Year-round schooling... First, I'd like to admit for the record that I am not an "educator", except in the sense that I feel it my responsibility to ensure that my child can recognize letters and numbers, read at a very basic level, etc. -before- he enters the school system. I would like to hear your opinions on two subjects which are currently "hot" topics in the local area. 1) Year-round schooling. What benefits accrue to the students in a year-round school environment? What affect does this have on instructor preparation? 2) Uniforms. A local school has instituted a voluntary uniform program for the students. How much do uniforms in a public school actually help discipline and the self-esteem of the students? What negative influences, if any, do uniforms have on the development and education of the student? Kevin --- Telegard v3.02/mL * Origin: The Unknown System 509-967-6785 (1:3407/5) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 265 EDUCATOR Ref: EEG00000 Date: 10/09/97 From: GORDON MALONE Time: 01:30pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: AOL 4.0 RELEASE WARNING Subject: Fw: [ISO] Fwd: AOL 4.0 is an Intrusion of Privacy - IMPORTANT! Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 05:36:41 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1008.3 X-MimeOle: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE Engine V4.71.1008.3 -----Original Message----- From: John To: in_search_of@primenet.com ; Blackvault@MyList.net Date: Wednesday, October 08, 1997 10:12 PM Subject: [ISO] Fwd: AOL 4.0 is an Intrusion of Privacy - IMPORTANT! >We are "In Search Of . . ." answers together. Each posting must reflect >personal respect, integrity, honesty, and full disclosure of information. >---------- > >Hello everybody!! > > This is probably a hoax, but it makes for an interesting read. > > >> >> From a former AOL employee: >> >> I'll try and cut through the crap, and try to get to the point of this >> letter. I used to work for America Online, and would like to remain >> anonymous for that reason. I was laid off in early September, but I >> know exactly why I was laid off, which I will now explain: >> >> Since last December, I had been one of the many people assigned to >> design AOL 4.0 for Windows (AOL 4.0 beta, codenamed Casablanca). In >> the beginning, I was very proud of this task, until I found out the true >> cost of it. Things were going fine until about mid-February, when me >> and 2 of my colleagues started to suspect a problem, an unexplainable >> 'Privacy Invasion', with the new version. One of them, who is a master >> programmer, copied the finished portion of the new version (Then 'Build >> 52'), and took it home, and we spent nearly 2 weeks of sleepless nights >> examining and debugging the program, flipping it inside-out, and here is >> what we found. >> >> Unlike all previous versions of America Online, version 4.0 puts >> something in your hard drive called a 'cookie'. (AOL members click HREF=" >>aol://4344:1047.g334.8411481.532897009">here for a >> definition). However, the cookie we found on Version 4.0 was far more >> treacherous than the simple internet cookie. How would you like >> somebody looking at your entire hard drive, snooping through any (yes, >> any) piece of information on your hard drive. It could also read your >> password and log in information and store it deep in the program code. >> Well, all previous versions, whether you like it or not, have done this >> to a certain extent, but only with files you downloaded. As me and my >> colleagues discovered, with the new version, anytime you are signed on >> to AOL, any top aol executive, any aol worker, who has been sworn to >> secrecy regarding this feature, can go into your hard drive and retrieve >> any piece of information that they so desire. Billing, download >> records, e-mail, directories, personal documents, programs, financial >> information, scanned images, etc ... Better start keeping all those >> pictures on a floppy disk! >> >> This is a totally disgusting violation of our rights, and your right to >> know as well. Since this is undoubtably 'Top Secret' information that I >> am revealing, my life at AOL is pretty much over. After discovering >> this information, we started to inform a few other workers at America >> Online, so that we could get a large enough crew to stop this from >> happening to the millions of unfortunate and unsuspecting America Online >> members. This was in early August. One month later, all three of us >> were unemployed. We got together, and figured there was something we >> had to do to let the public know. >> >> Unemployed, with one of us going through a divorce (me) and another who >> is about to undergo treatment for Cancer, our combined financial >> situation is not currently enough to release any sort or article. We >> attepted to create a web page on three different servers containing >> in-depth information on AOL 4.0, but all three were taken down within 2 >> days. We were running very low on time (4.0 is released early this >> winter), so we figured our last hope to reveal this madness before it >> effects the people was starting something similar to a chain letter, >> this letter you are reading. Please do the following, to help us expose >> AOL for who they really are, and to help us and yourself recieve >> personal gratification for taking a stand for our freedom: >> >> 1. Forward this letter to as many people as you can (not just friends >> and family, as many as you can!) >> >> 2. Tell people who aren't on America Online in person, especially >> important people (Private Investigators, Government workers, City >> Council) >> >> 3. If the information about the new version isn't exposed by the time >> aol is released early this winter, for your own protection, DON'T >> DOWNLOAD AOL 4.0 UNDER ANY CONDITION !!! >> >> Thank you for reading and examining this information. Me and my >> colleagues hope that you will help us do the right thing in this >> situation. Enjoy America Online (just kidding!). >> >> Regards, >> A former AOL employee >> --- GEcho=Abandonware * Origin: Rosedale Data Line Rosedale, MD,USA USR-V34E 410.866.45 (1:261/3040) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 265 EDUCATOR Ref: EEH00000 Date: 10/10/97 From: SHEILA KING Time: 10:36pm \/To: RON MCDERMOTT (Read 0 times) Subj: Delayed projects RM> Pretty well.. Good classes/kids.. Due to some OTHER RM> people not getting their act together, I'm going to RM> be involved in a computer project NOW, which should RM> have been done this summer; annoying! RM> We're converting our physics lab program from Apple RM> to IBM.. I'm cobbling together some 386 and 486 RM> machines which no one wanted , to make 14 IBM RM> Windows-based workstations. We're reviewing new RM> software, have to install, convert our data- RM> gathering probes, etc, and write up a lab program. RM> Would have been a LOT easier this summer! %-[ Don't you hate that? I was involved in something like that this summer. People were dragging their feet and I feared it might be delayed until the beginning of the school year. So I shared that "I'm worried about the delay, and if it doesn't start soon, I might have to bow out, since I won't have time after the school year starts". That produced some action. Sheila * SLMR 2.1a * --- DB 1.39/004485 * Origin: The Diamond Bar BBS, San Dimas CA, 909-599-2088 (1:218/1001) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 265 EDUCATOR Ref: EEH00001 Date: 10/10/97 From: SHEILA KING Time: 10:36pm \/To: KEVIN CROSBY (Read 0 times) Subj: Year-round schooling... KC> I would like to hear your opinions on two subjects which are currently "hot KC> topics in the local area. KC> 1) Year-round schooling. What benefits accrue to the students in a year-r KC> school environment? What affect does this have on instructor preparation? This is my personal take, having not experienced year-round schooling, but only having peripherally observed it in some nearby communities and discussing it on-line: There really isn't much, if any, measurable benefit to the students as a result of year round schooling. Supposed improvement on retaining knowledge has not made the headlines of the newspapers here in California, and they've had many schools on year round here. Secondly, as a teacher, I'd rather have the summer off. This allows me to ake classes, or enroll my kids in summer swim programs, or some teachers take a summer job or travel (often education related). These things would be at the very least, difficult, if not impossible on a year round schedule. KC> 2) Uniforms. A local school has instituted a voluntary uniform program fo KC> the students. How much do uniforms in a public school actually help discip KC> and the self-esteem of the students? What negative influences, if any, do KC> uniforms have on the development and education of the student? In some areas, the uniforms really do help. Some gang areas have had noticeable improvements. My kids school considered adopting uniforms for this school year. As the debate raged on, last year, I hoped that they wouldn't adopt them. Our community is middle-class and fairly safe. I couldn't see that they would offer much here. Sheila KC> Kevin KC> --- Telegard v3.02/mL KC> * Origin: The Unknown System 509-967-6785 (1:3407/5) * SLMR 2.1a * --- DB 1.39/004485 * Origin: The Diamond Bar BBS, San Dimas CA, 909-599-2088 (1:218/1001) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 265 EDUCATOR Ref: EEJ00000 Date: 10/13/97 From: RON MCDERMOTT Time: 10:33am \/To: SHEILA KING (Read 0 times) Subj: Delayed Projects RM> Pretty well.. Good classes/kids.. Due to some OTHER RM> people not getting their act together, I'm going to RM> be involved in a computer project NOW, which should RM> have been done this summer; annoying! RM> We're converting our physics lab program from Apple RM> to IBM.. I'm cobbling together some 386 and 486 RM> machines which no one wanted , to make 14 IBM RM> Windows-based workstations. We're reviewing new RM> software, have to install, convert our data- RM> gathering probes, etc, and write up a lab program. RM> Would have been a LOT easier this summer! %-[ SK>Don't you hate that? I was involved in something like that SK>this summer. People were dragging their feet and I feared SK>it might be delayed until the beginning of the school year. SK>So I shared that "I'm worried about the delay, and if it SK>doesn't start soon, I might have to bow out, since I won't SK>have time after the school year starts". SK>That produced some action. I should be so lucky.. I put in the proposal before we left for the summer; got it back for "revision" late July! By the time I jumped through everyone's hoop, it was August, and THEN everyone who could ok it was away for THEIR vacation! We finally got the whole thing ok'd and ordered evaluation software a couple days before school began.. THAT stuff just arrived (actually, we haven't gotten ALL of it yet). We're ordering the hardware we need next week, and we'll be finalizing the software in the next couple of weeks.. THEN we get to install and setup all the IBM computers, remove the Apples, etc.. I figure it'll be Christmas vacation when this gets done... Grumble, grumble.... ___ * MR/2 2.26 * Why not travel at WARP speed? OS/2 WARP 3.0 --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: The Reading Room (1:272/160)