--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 265 EDUCATOR Ref: D5K00006 Date: 05/13/96 From: RON MCDERMOTT Time: 08:01am \/To: SHEILA KING (Read 3 times) Subj: TEST MESSAGE SK>This is a test message to see if my mail is getting out after we have SK>just changed feeds. SK>Please reply to let me know you have seen it. Came through fine; I picked it up 5/13.... ___ * MR/2 2.26 * WINDOWS95?!? Been there... Done that! --- Silver Xpress Mail System 5.4P1 * Origin: The Dolphin BBS (914) 635-3303 (1:2624/302) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 265 EDUCATOR Ref: D5K00007 Date: 05/13/96 From: RON MCDERMOTT Time: 08:01am \/To: SHEILA KING (Read 3 times) Subj: MAINFRAMES??? PS> The concept of a mainframe is a centralized computer as a sources of PS> information, or a program that is not best ran on many different PS> computers, but on one (or a Community of Computers). SK>Here is the crux of our difficulty. This is NOT the idea of a mainframe SK>(or not exactly). Given the history of discussion on this thread, I SK>believe what you are really referring to is a "computer network" which SK>is not necessarily a mainframe, although it might possibly include one. SK>A mainframe, as my husband tells me, is one large, single computer with SK>many users using it simultaneously (as opposed to PC's which are usually SK>one computer per user and also as opposed to a network server--which you SK>are referring to--which are "central" computers that provide info and SK>programs to client computers through a network.). I think this is referred to as "distributed processing".. ___ * MR/2 2.26 * "OS/2 is THE operating system of the 90's" - Bill Gates --- Silver Xpress Mail System 5.4P1 * Origin: The Dolphin BBS (914) 635-3303 (1:2624/302) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 265 EDUCATOR Ref: D5K00008 Date: 05/13/96 From: KEN BLYSTONE Time: 09:40pm \/To: SHEILA KING (Read 3 times) Subj: re: Mainframes??? > > Teachers and students perform these tasks on networks, which > probably > don't include a mainframe. > The term mainframe used to mean something. I run a BBS that is capable of having 256 simultaneous users accessing several 100 gigabytes of files. Is it a mainframe? No, it's a 486. If you switch from dos to unix the bbs can handle well over a 1,000 simultaneous users and do a more efficient job with file storage. As for books, if students go to the traditional school library they may find one or two copies of Huck Finn. If the books are checked out, they won't be back for two weeks meaning no other students can read the books. On my BBS hundreds of students can check out Huck Finn on the same day, and, they don't have to check the book back in. The times, they are a changing... --- VP [DOS] V4.09e * Origin: Digital Foundation | 14 Lines | 20 GB | El Paso, TX (1:381/64) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 265 EDUCATOR Ref: D5K00009 Date: 05/14/96 From: RUTH LEBLANC Time: 12:47am \/To: DONNA RANSDELL (Read 5 times) Subj: School Uniforms Hi Donna, DR>Private schools have uniforms there? Wow, that's different. My children star >at a Christian school that had a good dress code, but they didn't have a >uniform. We parents were asked to purchase a school t-shirt for use on class >field trips (wonderful idea), but that was the only time they had a "uniform This was a surprise to me. All private schools that I know of here in the metro Toronto, and beyond, have uniforms. Even the public schools have school T-shirts - mostly for sports or other school functions. >Teachers' dress code for females was dresses (or skirt/blouse or suit), >pantyhose and heels! (I was instrumental in getting the "heels" part changed >"flats fine". My doctor called the school and told the principal he was lead >himself to lots of workman's comp claims. The rule changed!) How long ago was this, Donna? It reminds me of when I first came to Canada in the 60's - back then females could not wear pants to work whatever the workplace (well there might have been the odd exception). I remember putting pants on under my skirts to combat the cold winter and having to remove them once I got to work. (I started work at the tender age of 16.) DR>The only private schools that I know of in the San Diego area that have >uniforms are Catholic schools. Most Catholic schools here are not private (but not part of the main public school system.) All regular Catholic schools have uniforms - at least they do at the high school level. DR>I like a good dress code - since switching to public school, my girls have h >to endure "Mom's dress code" for school. My job would be simpler if the scho >here would adopt one! I'm not sure how much of a dress code they have here in the schools. I personally would love to see uniforms for kids - note I say for kids. I personally would hate to wear one as a teacher! I never minded wearing one when I was growing up in England. In fact I couldn't wait until I reached the senior school and got to wear one. However as a young teen I could wear almost any style or colour - the same does not apply now. Ruth --- QMPro 1.53 Very funny Scotty. Now beam up my clothes. * Origin: FidoNet: CAP/CANADA Support BBS : 416-287-0234 (1:250/710) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 265 EDUCATOR Ref: D5K00010 Date: 05/14/96 From: MORT STERNHEIM Time: 11:15pm \/To: SHEILA KING (Read 3 times) Subj: Engineers vs. Physicists In a message of <12 May 96 10:37:00>, Sheila King (1:218/804) writes: SK>Have you read Richard Feynman's books _Surely You Must be Joking?_ and SK>_What Do You Care What Other People Think?_ ? I don't remember which SK>book it is (probably the former), but in one of them he discusses his SK>experiences on interviewing for a job with a physics degree, and that SK>many _personel_ employees didn't know what good a physics degree could SK>be in industry! I have read his books. In fact, I met him. I spent a month at a summer institute which he also attended, and he lived across the street from me with his family. He was an incredible person. His insight into the physical world was extraordinary, and his way of thinking truly original and creative. He was also a certified character, which comes thru in those books too. Part of the latter was a deliberate act. --- msged 1.97S ZTC * Origin: PIONEER VALLEY PCUG #1 Amherst, MA (413)256-1037 (1:321/109) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 265 EDUCATOR Ref: D5K00011 Date: 05/14/96 From: MORT STERNHEIM Time: 11:22pm \/To: PAUL SAYAN (Read 3 times) Subj: Textbooks In a message of <12 May 96 07:52:00>, Paul Sayan (1:3550/602) writes: PS>Would it depend on where you get your information from? I don't PS>understand why you want to limit a classroom to one book, when one can PS>go to the internet system and have your choice of many? Not all PS>scientific information is limited to NASA. I believe that there are a PS>few other research institutions elsewhere? Do you realize that PS>educators actually argued about the outcome of having pictures in PS>textbooks? Maybe this will change, but at the present time it simply is not possible to find basic course materials on the internet in most fields. When/where did educators argue about pictures in texts???? They've been there for generations. Yes, there are more now, and they are in color, but they've been there for a very long time. --- msged 1.97S ZTC * Origin: PIONEER VALLEY PCUG #1 Amherst, MA (413)256-1037 (1:321/109) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 265 EDUCATOR Ref: D5K00012 Date: 05/14/96 From: DAVE MAINWARING Time: 07:16pm \/To: SHEILA KING (Read 3 times) Subj: National Curriculum SK> subject matter, dont' they use this same argument even NOW, TODAY, that SK> they have done all that is required and met the letter of the SK> specifications? How would adopting a National Curriculum differ? SK> As Chuck Beams has written, advocates of a National Curriculum hope that SK> for one thing, kids in third grade (for example) who move and are forced SK> to change, say, from Virginia schools to Texas schools, would find SK> themselves working on approximately the same material, instead of I would hope that a national curriculum raise the standards and am certainly not against the idea of minimum standards. Lets assign school 1 the honor of having met the national standard and just passed the criteria. School 2 has proven itself capable of far exceeding the standard and through what ever means has been able to deliver an education that in reality is a year ahead of school 1. The situation would probably result in a student transfering between the two schools to be out of phase. would you place a cap on the high end of the curriculum or would you dumb down school 2 to make 2=1 ? I'd predict that the National curriculum would be based on the lowest expectations not the highest. Better some way of making it financially possible for all schools to be the best they can be :-) If the national specification set out a standard so high that every school could be measured against the accepted very best curriculum and that best was just past attainable it might work. Just a thought ;-) How does the National Curriculum change the way things will work when we see how things really work in today's schools? --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Bionic Dog Society, Newton, MA 617/964-8069 (1:101/138) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 265 EDUCATOR Ref: D5K00013 Date: 05/08/96 From: AMY BALLANTYNE Time: 01:49pm \/To: MATT SMITH (Read 3 times) Subj: Re: School Uniforms -> Uniforms won't change the fact that every school will nonetheless -> have kids who are seen as rich by what they wear (or bicycle) after -> school, or who can afford the albums everyone wants. This is true, but it does keep the competition of "goods" down at least while the kids are at school. --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: Praise OutReach BBS (1:311/57.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 265 EDUCATOR Ref: D5K00014 Date: 05/08/96 From: AMY BALLANTYNE Time: 01:51pm \/To: PAUL SAYAN (Read 3 times) Subj: School Uniforms -> After being a policman for eigth years I know that uniforms are not -> cheap. However, I think there are some uniforms that are being made -> that cost the same as simply clothes. I think Leona's school is -> using them. I would suggest asking her about them. Alaskans are -> real independent folks and would fight strongly over uniforms. -> It may not be right, it may not be correct, but it is what we are. -> Keep your stick on the Ice, -> Paul Well, here in Utah things are expensive. Like I said, every school we checked (private that is) that required uniforms had uniforms that were way too expensive. I hope things get different here in Utah. --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: Praise OutReach BBS (1:311/57.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 265 EDUCATOR Ref: D5K00015 Date: 05/08/96 From: AMY BALLANTYNE Time: 01:54pm \/To: LEONA PAYNE (Read 3 times) Subj: Re: School Uniforms I would love to see schools here in Utah come up with a dress code like the one you've mentioned, but I don't see it happening soon. I'll just keep praying that something will work out. --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: Praise OutReach BBS (1:311/57.0)