--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 263 WINDOWS '95 Ref: F5G01369 Date: 05/01/98 From: ALAN ZISMAN Time: 12:00am \/To: JAMES WOMACK (Read 5 times) Subj: Win 95 challenge James Womack said to Charlie Young on 04-26-98 18:28: > at least one of my machiens is going to be 100% DOS this summer CY>The only problem with that is you will be stuck with older CY>software. If you have what you need, that is not problem, CY>but what if you want to do something new? There may be some CY>DOS software that will fill the bill, but you won't find it CY>at the store. JW>Uh, I have a lot of DOS software that was fine before I went JW>Windows. Still does its job. But the real reason I am doing this JW>is because there's a bunch of programmers that hang out on the JW>net ( or more specifically, AOL ) and they are supposed JW>to be creating new DOS programs that are tightly written, task JW>specific, and take advantage of 6.22's features. Since I have JW>all these old 486 and 386 parts, what's the harm of giving them JW>a go? You may want to take a look at New Deal-- a modernized version of 1990's GeoWorks Ensemble, offering a graphical user interface (based on the Unix Motif), along with a suite of applications. Minimum supported hardware is a 640k 286; runs quite nicely on 4 megs of ram and a 386 or better. $79 (US)... a shareware version, with GUI + word processor is available as a 7 meg download at www.newdeal.com _______________ Internet mail to: azisman@rogers.wave.ca Win95 FAQ at: http://home.bc.rogers.wave.ca/azisman/faq95.htm ___ * WR 1.31 # 126 * --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Basic'ly Computers: Mooo-ing Right Along. (1:153/9) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 263 WINDOWS '95 Ref: F5G01370 Date: 05/01/98 From: ADAM SHIH Time: 06:42am \/To: ALL (Read 5 times) Subj: telemate II Can any help me to use the script recording function in the telemate. I can record the script but i can not stop it when I want it to stop recording but I have to hang up the modem for it to stop recording. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Basic'ly Computers: Mooo-ing Right Along. (1:153/9) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 263 WINDOWS '95 Ref: F5G01371 Date: 05/01/98 From: ADAM SHIH Time: 06:57am \/To: DENNIS BROWN (Read 5 times) Subj: 95 on 486 I think win95 is for a Petium system not for 486, you have to take a coffee break while it is load it up and plus the software for Win95 is usually req' a Petium system for the best performance. Althought according to MS that it is possible to run in on a 386 --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Basic'ly Computers: Mooo-ing Right Along. (1:153/9) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 263 WINDOWS '95 Ref: F5G01372 Date: 05/01/98 From: ADAM SHIH Time: 07:01am \/To: KURT MASTROVICH (Read 5 times) Subj: CD-Rom Drive? It is possible that you have alter the reg when you install some software or accident delete the config file for the cd rom drive --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Basic'ly Computers: Mooo-ing Right Along. (1:153/9) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 263 WINDOWS '95 Ref: F5G01373 Date: 05/01/98 From: BRYAN TAYLOR Time: 09:16am \/To: KENT ANDERSON (Read 5 times) Subj: DUN and Advanced Modem S On 04-28-98 Kent Anderson wrote to Bryan Taylor... KA> Thanks, but I must have a different modem command set. For mine, M3 KA> says - internal speakier on until carrier detect and off while KA> dialing. That's opposite of what I am trying to do. But, I am glad you KA> made me look in the manual. :) Looks as if I need M2, which says KA> "Internal speaker always on." I'll try that. Glad I could help edge you towards an answer! While we're at it, here's my USR manual description of the 'M' switch. M0 - Speaker always off M1 - Speaker on until connect M2 - Speaker always on (sound familiar? :-) M3 - Speaker on after dial, until connect The reason I gave you 'M3' is that (I thought) it would allow you to here everything that's going on, until the final connect when it should go quiet. I guess I should check MY manual before responding eh? The command features I was thinking of are for 'M1'. Oh well, that will teach me! :) I can imagine "always on" would get pretty annoying! What kind of modem are you using just out of curiosity? Chow, Bryan ... OFFLINE 1.39 * In Canada there is another word for Sushi.......BAIT! --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Basic'ly Computers: Mooo-ing Right Along. (1:153/9) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 263 WINDOWS '95 Ref: F5G01374 Date: 05/01/98 From: BRYAN TAYLOR Time: 09:34am \/To: BILL DAWSON (Read 5 times) Subj: Config.sys for Win95 On 04-28-98 Bill Dawson wrote to Bryan Taylor... BD> MW> I think what this boils down to is that config.w40 - dos 6.22 BD> MW> will be processed when you start Win95 or when you start in BD> BT> This W40 extention doesn't "ring any bells" for me, BD> Thus, it would seem that your W95 experience is still in the newby BD> stage, because when you set up a Win95.0/A system to allow booting BD> to "OldDOS," both of the two startup files get renamed during such BD> a bootup. Really now, is that how you become a newby? At least now I know. It sounds as though the Old Dos boot creating these *.W40 files is something that comes from upgrading. I generally sell and set up new systems. I guess I'll have to fdisk and install DOS6.22, then buy an "upgrade" for W95 to keep up. :> Chow, Bryan ... OFFLINE 1.39 * I used up all my sick days, so I'm calling in dead. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Basic'ly Computers: Mooo-ing Right Along. (1:153/9) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 263 WINDOWS '95 Ref: F5G01375 Date: 05/01/98 From: BRYAN TAYLOR Time: 09:47am \/To: BRUCE BECK (Read 5 times) Subj: Re: Config.sys for Win95 On 04-28-98 Bruce Beck wrote to Bryan Taylor... BB> -=> Quoting Bryan Taylor to Mary Wells <=- BB> BB> BT> window is a button called 'Advanced..' which you now click on, BB> BT> and should bring up an 'Advanced Program Settings' window. If BB> BT> you now toggle the radio button in front of 'MS-DOS mode', and BB> BT> toggle the radio button in front of 'Specify a new MS-DOS BB> BT> configuration' you will have the opportunity to configure your BB> BT> CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT in the DOS fashion you require. BB> BB> Hey, buddy, this is where the *.w40 files showup, thanks to Bill BB> for pointing this out and that is why some of us don't normally BB> see them. :> Yo Bruce! OUCH. I REALLY don't want to do this to you again but I must. Please don't take it personally. :} Your above statement seems not quite accurate. My above instruction will generate config/autoexec files with the 'WOS' (Windows Operating System) extention, not 'W40'. What I am now understanding is that these extensions come from an upgrade copy of Windows when 'Boot Previous DOS' was selected. I would assume that this extention is to indicate that those files belong to the Windows 4.x startup '*.W40' rather than the current starup, presumably a Windows 3.x version. Not that I can say this from experience, so I could again be wrong. I have not had any research time on an upgraded system, so I am relying on the feedback from others here. :) Chow, Bryan ... OFFLINE 1.39 * Software Independent: Won't work w/ any software --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Basic'ly Computers: Mooo-ing Right Along. (1:153/9) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 263 WINDOWS '95 Ref: F5G01376 Date: 05/01/98 From: BRYAN TAYLOR Time: 09:58am \/To: BRUCE PERATHANER (Read 5 times) Subj: W/95 On 04-28-98 Bruce Perathaner wrote to Bryan Taylor... BP> BT> BP> I have 2megs of three space on my main drive and 8 megs on my BP> BT> BP> drive. I'm sure I have enough 'workspace'! BP> BT>OUCH!!!! Two megs of free space I'm afraid DOES NOT cut it. You BP> BT>will find many applications malfunction, including windows itself. BP> Bryan, Your right! I only missed by two letters, they just happen to BP> be "gi's"instead of "me's". It should have said... BP> I have 2gigs of free space on my main drive and 8 gigs on my other BP> drive. BP> I'm sure I have enough 'workspace'! BP> Sure changes things a little, doesn't it! Holy smoke, does it ever! Glad to hear it, but only sort of. If the original had been true it would have at least explained your speed difficulties! The next thing I would look into then, is your CMOS settings. Have you modified your RAM refresh, or are you shadowing BIOS ROM, and that sort of thing? Bummer, I thought we had it solved! :) Chow, Bryan ... OFFLINE 1.39 * The gene pool has no lifeguard --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Basic'ly Computers: Mooo-ing Right Along. (1:153/9) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 263 WINDOWS '95 Ref: F5G01377 Date: 05/01/98 From: BRYAN TAYLOR Time: 10:53am \/To: BILL DRAKE (Read 5 times) Subj: What does IFSHLP.SYS Do? On 04-29-98 Bill Drake wrote to Bryan Taylor... BD> Hi, Bryan. The advantage of loading stuff manually in Config.sys BD> versus allowing the autoload is that the autoload can only fill BD> UMB from the bottom up, in the order in which IO.SYS processes BD> autoload-items. BD> Consequently, if your UMB would be more efficiently filled with a BD> specific load-order (which is Memmaker's job to check), then the BD> only way to ensure you are getting that optimal load-order is to BD> manually add the autoload-items to Config.Sys and run Memmaker. Hi Bill, Makes perfect sense to me! :) Of course if the TSR you attempt to load requires say a full block to load, even if it does not consume that much when load is completed, it would be pushed to the next block because of something like SETVER using up the beginning of the first block. This would result in fragmented UMBs, exactly what good old memmaker was geared to prevent. BD> Note: W95 checks for the presence of the autoload-items in BD> Config.Sys and/or Autoexec.Bat. If an autoload-item BD> is found, then the specific configuration methodology BD> found on the Config.Sys/Autoexec.Bat command line for BD> that particular autoload-item is followed, and the BD> actual autoload-process for that item is ignored. What I previously thought was you had to use the NOAUTO parameter for DOS= to prevent auto loading these devices. Now that you have mentioned this I have re-read these dox, and now notice them saying "if they are not explicitly loaded in your Config.sys file". Thank you, I now have a much better understanding of this info. I DO appreciate your help! :-) Chow, Bryan ... OFFLINE 1.39 * A feature is a bug with seniority. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Basic'ly Computers: Mooo-ing Right Along. (1:153/9) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 263 WINDOWS '95 Ref: F5G01378 Date: 05/01/98 From: BRYAN TAYLOR Time: 10:58am \/To: BILL DRAKE (Read 5 times) Subj: moving win95 to other hd On 04-29-98 Bill Drake wrote to Bryan Taylor... BD> The 850 Code Page is used when "Canada" is selected BD> as the "Country of Origin" during the Windows 95 install BD> process. BD> BD> The 437 Code Page is used when "United States" is BD> selected as the "Country of Origin" during the Windows BD> 95 install process. BD> BD> The 437 Code Page is American English. BD> BD> The 850 Code Page includes support for both American BD> English and Canadian French. Consequently, the use BD> of the 850 Code Page gives you permission to use the BD> extended character set for filenames, as this is a BD> necessary requirement to save Canadian French words BD> in filenames. That must be why I never saw the problem. Have always chosen Canada since I do live there. I wasn't aware that the US settings dis-allowed extended characters! Thanx again for your input, always a learning experience writing to you. :) Chow, Bryan ... OFFLINE 1.39 * If it wasn't for C, we would be using BASI, PASAL and OBOL! --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Basic'ly Computers: Mooo-ing Right Along. (1:153/9)