--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 262 INT. BIBLE STUDY Ref: F1100005Date: 12/30/97 From: CHARLIE RAY Time: 11:10pm \/To: CLARENCE HOGAN (Read 0 times) Subj: The Bible Hi CLARENCE, -=> Quoting Christopher Coyne to Clarence Hogan <=- CH> Possibly your BBS or computer cut off part of the message, so wil CH> re-post it for your enjoyment! CC> No, I obviously got it all. I still don't completely understand w CC> you're trying to understand. CH> Oh, ok then, great! Hummmm, sorry, but your statement does not CH> compute, for it was my post and it was understood perfectly and CH> was just sharing it with my brothers on all the echoes for a CH> good laugh to be enjoyed by all, for laughter does the heart CH> good, does it not? I got it, Clarence:) I thought it was funny. Reminded me of a parody done by a Christian comedian I knew in Bible college. Only his sermonette started out with Genesis and went all the way to Revelation. I only wish I had a hard copy of it. Noah and the ark became the ark of the covenant and somehow the preacher tied that in with the New Jerusalem coming down out of heaven:) God bless! Sincerely in Christ, Charlie Ray, Chaplain 1 Timothy 4:16 -=- * WR # 461 * Sola Fide, Sola Gratia, Sola Scriptura, Solus Christus. --- SLMAIL v3.5C (#1540) * Origin: Robotech BBS (904) 758-9477 * Lake City, FL * (1:3600/7) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 262 INT. BIBLE STUDY Ref: F1100006Date: 12/26/97 From: H.L. WALKER Time: 08:23pm \/To: SANDY HOOPER (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Tongues....O Read this message with interest. You mentioned Cate's book which is now unfortunately, I believe out of print. The Corinthinian Catastophy by (the author's name excapes me.) ... published by Kregal is about a man who came out of pentecostalism. I imagine that you, like me have charismatic and pentecostal friends, but it in general has not been beneficial to growth in the Lord for those participants. I'm not being sectarian. Because of some of the books you recommended, you are now a regular baptist (ala GARBC) or a fundamental baptist of some kind? I have a lot of dear friends within fundamental baptist circles. Of the last few years, I've fellowshiped among the plymouth brethren. Best wishes. I look forward to further correspondence. --- Echodor 3.12a/Squish * Origin: Commodore Central BBS (CUGKC) (1:280/364.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 262 INT. BIBLE STUDY Ref: F1300000Date: 01/02/98 From: ROBBY DITTMANN Time: 11:10am \/To: CHARLIE RAY (Read 0 times) Subj: The Bible CR> I got it, Clarence:) I thought it was funny. Reminded CR> me of a parody done CR> by a Christian comedian I knew in Bible college. Only his sermonette CR> started out with Genesis and went all the way to CR> Revelation. I only wish I CR> had a hard copy of it. Noah and the ark became the ark CR> of the covenant and CR> somehow the preacher tied that in with the New CR> Jerusalem coming down out of CR> heaven:) I forget his name, but this sermonette is on a tape called "Good Clean Fun". It's a collection of bits from various christian comedians, and should be availble (or orderable) from any christian bookstore. My favorite part is when they cast Jezebel doen from the tower and "of the pieces that remained were 12 basketfulls"! Robby --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: Red Shift BBS, Home of Mamoosoft! ... (770) 979-9467 (1:133/8003) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 262 INT. BIBLE STUDY Ref: F1500000Date: 01/04/98 From: SHOSHONA BIEMAN Time: 12:00am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: OPEN_BIBLE Rules: 01-04-98 Welcome to the Fidonet OPEN_BIBLE Conference! OPEN_BIBLE is for rightly dividing the Truth of Scripture. 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BIBLE STUDY Ref: F1A00000Date: 01/06/98 From: JERRY HENSLEY Time: 12:19am \/To: MARK TOWNE (Read 0 times) Subj: Curious MT>> Shonshona, I am curious why you spell God as G-d? It is understood by most that the omission of vowels in G-d, L-rd, and the like, are for the sole purpose of showing reverence, and, so as not to, advertently, or inadvertently "blaspheme" the NAME of the Most High. While this may appear to be a grand gesture on the part of most, we would do well to understand that, in truth, it holds little value at all. Firstly, the name God (Gawd, i.e. pagan deity) and Lord (the anglicized transitive of Baal) have no place in dialogue concerning the Heavenly Father. Secondly, and most important, YaHshua stated that - He came in His Father's name (the name that they would not receive-even unto this day) (John 5:43) "AND" He states: "Holy Father, keep through thine own name, those whom Thou hast given me." Therefore, while many think to conceal his name, the MessYaH wants it to be manifest! While some won't speak His glorious name (out of fear of blasphemy [???]), the Saviour councils us to speak His name as we petition the Father, that we may obtain the things that we desire and have need of. Besides, why put a (-) in words that we think to be only titles, yet do you not spell "Jesus" out? If Jesus were the true name, would you not be uttering the unspeakable? Did the MessYaH not say: (Again) "I am come in my Father's name"? Does not scripture inform us that YaHVaH is ONE, and His NAME one? However, those of understanding know that Jesus (Iesous) stands for Zeus' healer, and that the true and most wonderful name of our Redeemer is YaHshua the MessYaH. Use it and Live. For there is only one name given whereby we MUST be saved. Why will you die, when the power to live extends from your heart to your lips in the very utterance of YaHshua! Thanks for reading Mark. Jerry * 1st 2.00 * Blessed is He who comes in the name of YaHVaH-Oshua! --- Michiana Mail Center * Origin: CW Technical Support - South Bend, IN - (219) 272-8129 (1:227/129) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 262 INT. BIBLE STUDY Ref: F1A00001Date: 01/06/98 From: JERRY HENSLEY Time: 12:19am \/To: CLARENCE HOGAN (Read 0 times) Subj: The Bible CH> Do we truly know The Bible? CH> KNOWING THE BIBLE CH> Everyone should know The Bible from lid to lid and, of course > we know those that know The Bible from lid to lid because they > also know the following sermon that was preached long ago. Tisk tisk, Alas poor Clarence! You know that you have cast some in a tizzy with all this rhetoric. I, of course saw into your wit, and do (with head hung low, bearing a sad countenance) understand that this is truly how the majority of people recollect what they may have read, or have heard. And now, the summer is ended, the harvest is over, and we have still not filed our taxes. (OH! Of course you know the end of this verse to be: "We are still not saved.") Wish we could all be ready. Jerry * 1st 2.00 * Honor thy error as hidden intention. --- Michiana Mail Center * Origin: CW Technical Support - South Bend, IN - (219) 272-8129 (1:227/129) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 262 INT. BIBLE STUDY Ref: F1B00000Date: 01/06/98 From: CHRISTOPHER COYNE Time: 02:48pm \/To: JERRY HENSLEY (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Curious JH> It is understood by most that the omission of vowels in G-d, L-rd, JH> and the like, are for the sole purpose of showing reverence, and, so as JH> not to, advertently, or inadvertently "blaspheme" the NAME of the Most JH> High. While this may appear to be a grand gesture on the part of JH> most, we would do well to understand that, in truth, it holds little JH> value at all. Firstly, the name God (Gawd, i.e. pagan deity) and Lord JH> (the anglicized transitive of Baal) have no place in dialogue JH> concerning the Heavenly Father. Secondly, and most important, YaHshua JH> stated that - He came in His Father's name (the name that they would JH> not receive-even unto this day) (John 5:43) "AND" He states: "Holy JH> Father, keep through thine own name, those whom Thou hast given me." I'll give you the same answer I gave the Atheist that came on this echo not to long ago I answered in NetMail. I don't spell it in this conference out of respect for the Messianic Jewish people in this conference. When I know they aren't reading it, I have nop trouble speeling it out. In fact, i'm still in contact with him and we spell titles like G-d and L-rd out all the time. I just choose not to unessesarily offend people. You understand now? Cool. Peace. --- CNet/3 * Origin: [FidoNet] Christian \o/ Retreat * Flower Mound, TX * (1:124/3266) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 262 INT. BIBLE STUDY Ref: F1B00001Date: 01/06/98 From: CLARENCE HOGAN Time: 02:21pm \/To: JERRY HENSLEY (Read 0 times) Subj: The Bible -=> Quoting Jerry Hensley to Clarence Hogan <=- CH> Do we truly know The Bible? CH> KNOWING THE BIBLE CH> Everyone should know The Bible from lid to lid and, of course > we know those that know The Bible from lid to lid because they > also know the following sermon that was preached long ago. JH> Tisk tisk, Alas poor Clarence! You know that you have cast some JH> in a tizzy with all this rhetoric. I, of course saw into your wit, JH> and do (with head hung low, bearing a sad countenance) understand that JH> this is truly how the majority of people recollect what they may have JH> read, or have heard. And now, the summer is ended, the harvest is JH> over, and we have still not filed our taxes. (OH! Of course you know JH> the end of this verse to be: "We are still not saved.") Wish we JH> could all be ready. Yup, poor clarence, for he was also one of those poor folk at one time and knows from whence ye speak! :'( And of course it was not my wit, but sure do wish that it was, but alas am just not that wise yet, but am sure working on it! :) However, are we not to use the weapons of war against the devil that our Father has provided for us, even though the weapon has not been designed or made by our hands or minds? And you are indeed correct, the summer has ended and the harvest is truly ripe and we HAD ALL better start to believe that the taxes are truly due and WILL be paid ONE WAY or the OTHER, correct? Heavens yes, having know the end for many, many years now, for if we were indeed saved, there would no longer be any need to endure, right? And yup, you have sure got the last sentence correct for Lu 21:28 will most certainly bear that statement out! As to your second sentence and the last part of it, are not those the folks who are called and also call themselves "christians"? :'( It is indeed a joy and a blessing to do business with you brother Jerry! BTW, took note of your other message on the BBS today on Yahweh and noted that you spelled it Yahveh and since the Moabite stone and Dead Sea Scrolls show it Yahweh (according to my research), where is it shown as Yahveh? As this is a most important issue to this old man, for He is to be called by His declared Mighty Name! Just another humble servant of The Kingdom.......clarence....... ... Humour is emotional chaos remembered in tranquillity. --- Blue Wave/Max v2.30 * Origin: Skeeter Haven "Nashville, TN" (615) 872-8609 (1:116/17)