--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 260 OS/2 HARDWARE Ref: F4E00009 Date: 04/04/98 From: BARRY BOGART Time: 07:34pm \/To: CORIDON HENSHAW (Read 3 times) Subj: Re: Mem CH> When OS/2 runs out of RAM, it will page (swap) something to the CH> swapfile. When it runs out of both swap space and RAM, the system CH> will crash. Ok, well how do I log the Traps that halt the system? Its been doing it after the system is up for like 18-24 hours. It JUST started to do this. --- * Origin: The Sanatorium! Sanataria Springs NY 607 648 6789 (1:260/432) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 260 OS/2 HARDWARE Ref: F4E00010 Date: 04/04/98 From: BARRY BOGART Time: 07:36pm \/To: GEORGE FLIGER (Read 3 times) Subj: Re: Mem GF> Just lean closer to the monitor so the system can suck some of your GF> grey matter out. That'll take care of the memory problem. :) Hehe. Well I'm not sure if its a RAM problem or not. All I know is it Traps and re-boots. Dunno how to log the HardErr Traps. --- * Origin: The Sanatorium! Sanataria Springs NY 607 648 6789 (1:260/432) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 260 OS/2 HARDWARE Ref: F4E00011 Date: 04/04/98 From: BARRY BOGART Time: 07:40pm \/To: JAMES MCKENZIE (Read 3 times) Subj: Re: Mem JM> Only if you set the MEMMAN=SWAP,PROTECT SWAP parameter to NOSWAP. JM> Otherwise OS/2 will swap out sections of memory to your "Swapper.dat" JM> file until that particular hard drive parition runs out of space. In JM> my case that is 64+700 which is alot of space. I have it SWAP, PROTECT. The Size is 10248. Total RAM installed is 32. I dunno if its that or not but it hard errors and reboots every once in a while. It just started doing it. I am running a few more nodes on my BBS so I figured it was a memory thing. I run 2mb per node x 4 = 8mb out of 32. I figure another 8mb for the OS. And an extra 1mb for my Virtual Drive. Perhaps I may be forgetting a few things though :) ... If I had been present at creation, I would have given some useful hints. --- * Origin: The Sanatorium! Sanataria Springs NY 607 648 6789 (1:260/432) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 260 OS/2 HARDWARE Ref: F4E00012 Date: 04/07/98 From: BARRY BOGART Time: 06:49pm \/To: THORBJOERN RAVN ANDERSEN (Read 3 times) Subj: Re: Mem BB> If Os/2 runs out of memory, will the system Halt? TRA> It will warn you first so you have an opportunity to free space on TRA> the drive holding the swap file. BTW: This is one of the warnings TRA> to take very seriously :-) Ok, well I think its the display driver. Apparently I have been running an STB PowerGraph/32 Driver and my card is STB trio32. Hope that didn't burn out my monitor :( --- * Origin: The Sanatorium! Sanataria Springs NY 607 648 6789 (1:260/432) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 260 OS/2 HARDWARE Ref: F4E00013 Date: 04/08/98 From: CHRISTER JACOBSSON Time: 12:49am \/To: ALL (Read 3 times) Subj: NEC CDR-463 & audio grabbing Hi! In my system I have a internal NEC 16x SCSI-2 CDROM which the Warp3 application reports the following facts about: === Cut === *********** System Information Tool - *********** *********** SCSI Devices For Adapter *********** Device Type : CD ROM Device Device Size : 29.656 Kilobytes Device Unit PUN : 5 Device Unit LUN : 0 ANSI Level Supported : ANSI SCSI-2 Unit Status : Ready and Powered On Vendor ID : NEC Product ID : CD-ROM DRIVE:463 Product Revision Level : 1.05 Vendor Field : 97020600 Device Filter ADD : Not Present Device Attributes : Device supports synchronous data transfers Device Attributes : Media can be removed Device Attributes : Media Change Line not supported Device Attributes : Prefetch Not Supported Device Attributes : Device Not Defective *********** System Information Tool - *********** === Cut === This CDROM is attached to a Adaptec 2940UW adapter and I'm booting my warp server v4 Advanced SMP with the aic7870.add basedev which identifies itsefl === Cut === Adaptec 7800 Family Driver for OS/2 v2.1x, Warp v3.x/d1.22 === Cut === Now I have tried various OS/2 audio grab programs against this CDROM but none of these was able to grab an audio track off an ordinary audioCD. BUT! If I boot straight DOS (Caldera OpenDOS v7.01) using Adaptec's ASPI8DOS.SYS, ASPICD.SYS and Caldera's nwcdex.exe (Caldera's counterpart to the m$ mscdex), I am quite able to grab audio tracks off an audioCD using a DOS program (can't remember which now). More curious is that the same program won't grab if I runs it in the Warp3 DOS box which supposedly should have the mscdex support in it. So, what's wrong here? Is something wrong with the CD or is it misbehaving SCSI basedev drivers in Warp3 that prevents me from grabbing audio tracks under Warp3? Rgds, /GAIA (Insulin User - 2nd Anniversary & 17th Wedding Anniversary :-) ) Team OS/2 E-mail: cribo.jacobsson@gaea.se --- GoldED/2 2.50+ 16SW2 * Origin: I'll Never Be Nobody's Wife! (2:205/104) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 260 OS/2 HARDWARE Ref: F4E00014 Date: 04/05/98 From: ANDREW GRILLET Time: 07:59am \/To: JONATHAN DE BOYNE POLLARD (Read 3 times) Subj: 75MHz Motherboards -=> On 31 Mar 98 13:09:20 Jonathan de Boyne Pollard said to Andrew Grillet <=- JdBP>> The FIC PA 2012 uses a switching voltage regulator. I'm told that JdBP>> that is good, although I have yet to find an explanation as to JdBP>> why. AG> Because it uses less power and *generates less heat*. JdBP> And why is that, electrically speaking ? Because it is either ON - current (amps), but no volts, or OFF, volts but no amps, and volts * amps = power (heat). The average of the on and off is created by a coli and capacitor, both of which have negligable losses. Andrew ... A polar bear is a rectangular bear after a coordinate transformation --- Blue Wave/Max v2.30 [NR] * Origin: Me/2 (2:254/259) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 260 OS/2 HARDWARE Ref: F4E00015 Date: 04/05/98 From: ANDREW GRILLET Time: 08:41am \/To: CORIDON HENSHAW (Read 3 times) Subj: Mem Hi Coridon, -=> On 02 Apr 98 19:14:39 Coridon Henshaw said to Barry Bogart <=- CH> On Wednesday April 01 1998 at 09:13, Barry Bogart wrote to All: BB> If Os/2 runs out of memory, will the system Halt? CH> When OS/2 runs out of RAM, it will page (swap) something to the CH> swapfile. When it runs out of both swap space and RAM, the system CH> will crash. But it warns you first, at a level set in your config.sys. Andrew ... Throw another Ken on the Barbie. --- Blue Wave/Max v2.30 [NR] * Origin: Me/2 (2:254/259) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 260 OS/2 HARDWARE Ref: F4E00016 Date: 04/06/98 From: TONY LANGDON Time: 06:51am \/To: MARK LEWIS (Read 3 times) Subj: os/2 It's 25 Mar 98 20:06:46, We'll return to mark lewis and Tony Langdon's discussion of os/2 ml> oh, it's also the same nasty as i describe above WRT the serial ml> ports... they allow for each port to be one of the five standard ml> settings... ml> DISABLED ml> COM1/IRQ4 ml> COM2/IRQ3 ml> COM3/IRQ4 ml> COM4/IRQ3 I have this problem, my internal COM2 conflicts with a voice mail system (which is old and can't be reconfigured). Adding another port isn't an option, I have no ISA slots free to put it in, so I just make sure I'm only ever using one or the other. :-) ... I am going to live forever, or die trying! --- FMail/386 1.02 * Origin: The Bridge - Remote Sysop. (3:635/728.18) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 260 OS/2 HARDWARE Ref: F4E00017 Date: 04/08/98 From: CHARLES BOWMAN Time: 05:52pm \/To: ALL (Read 3 times) Subj: ? regarding Memory Hello All! I've recently ordered some memory for my machine and have come up with a question that has been touched on somewhat in here but not as fully as I would like. My motherboard manual tells me that the max capacity is 256MB of memory but that with a 256k cache it can only cache 64MB and with a 512k it would cache 128MB. My board has the 256k cache and doesn't look like it is user servicable so I seem to be stuck with it. I am installing 128MB and wondered what the extra 64 will be doing if it's not cached under OS/2 (or any other OS for that matter)? Looking forward to reading any comments and personal observations that you might have. cbowman@sinfo.net --- Renegade v98-061a dos * Origin: Techshop's Southern Most Point - Panama (1:3651/9.10) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 260 OS/2 HARDWARE Ref: F4E00018 Date: 04/08/98 From: LYNN NASH Time: 06:42am \/To: ANDREW GRILLET (Read 3 times) Subj: Os/2 & modem AG>Hi David, -=> On 29 Mar 98 21:06:04 David Page said to Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <=- DP> Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote in a message to Robert Klose: AG> DP> Just think; an TRUE example of multiproccesing, since the keyboard DP> procesor can run at the same time as the system processor. Imagine DP> what just a little more of this kind of thinking could do. An 80186 DP> compatible processor is very cheap as part of an ASIC, and blows away DP> the original keyboard processor, which was markedly inferior to an DP> 8088. Such a processor could run a whole array of serial ports, for DP> example. AG>That is what Apricot did (in the F1 and portable, I think). It broke all AG>manner of software, and they never got past DOS 2.x as a result. AG>The success of the PC is due to one thing, and one thing only: it is a AG>standard. AG>(lets face it, there is not much else in its favour). AG>Of couse Seymour Cray used PDP8s as the interface to the CDC6400 and 6600 AG>machines, and they were great. Theyn worked something like SCSI channels. AG>A PDP8 has about the same power as a 8088 I would say (but most of the AG>software for it was better written). I think you can still get them on a AG>single chip too! AG>To return to topic ... if you are going to have IO processors on a PC the AG>only standard way to do it is SCSI ... Lets pray for SCSI keyboard AG>and mouse (and printer) support (but don't hold your breath). Err,that is not the way it is heading exactly. Guys have you looked at the I2O initiative which basically uses an i960 on the motherboard as an I/O processor off loading all the interrupt handling? OS/2 has a driver for it and Supermicro makes 2 models of PPRO boards and a dual P-II board with one on it. See http://www.supermicro.com/i2o/index.htm. OS/2 is on the list with all the other OS's that support it. If you guys are really that interested in I/O processors then you probably should go to Intels site and look up all the activity on I2O and the i960. It is the big new thing, mostly by the big names in servers Acer, Dell, HP etc. as the PC finally moves further into 1970's mainframe system level architecture. However Supermicro will gladly sell you a motherboard so that you can put your own mini mainframe together. Actually considering the performance of the current dual P-II motherboards, memory capacities, and disk sizes, what you would be putting together is your own Cray 1 for a tiny fraction of its original cost. I wonder how a Cray 1 would have done with OS/2 SMP, NT or Quake. :-) Supermicro's P6DLH is a real monster. "SUPER P6DLH is full AT size and is based on Intel's 440 LX chipset. It supports dual Pentium II 333 MHz processors, i960 RD IOP, up to 1 GB EDO or 512 MB SDRAM memory, 9 PCI slots, 3 ISA slots, an 8 Mb Flash I/O BIOS, local IOP memory of 64 MB, and support for PC 98 specifications, Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI), and PC Health Monitoring." I guess with the 440BX due in a month or two that there will probably be new models if intel has a 100MHz i960 on queue. The P6PDLH has 4 DIMM slots plus 2 Simm slots for the IOP's memory. It costs roughly $700 U.S. with the i960 mounted. It is not that far out in the blue sky for a single user. Aberdeen, one of Supermicro's distributors sells one loaded with two 333MHz P-II's for $2100. One of those expensive AMI RAID controllers would get you another i960. That would be independent but you could still claim it was an I/O Channel or Data Link Processor. As far as SCSI keyboard support, if this board is any indication, future keyboard support will be the realm of USB. USB does have a command set similar to SCSI so that is close to your wish. Supermicro appears to have a couple of pretty nice cases to stick it in, a normal full tower suitable of a power user and a monster for server use. --Lynn * SLMR 2.1a * I can't diet for medical reasons, it makes me HUNGRY! --- DB 1.39/004485 * Origin: The Diamond Bar BBS, San Dimas CA, 909-599-2088 (1:218/1001)