--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: F1A00000 Date: 01/05/98 From: BOBBY QUEEN Time: 08:02am \/To: PETER FRAZER (Read 0 times) Subj: my taglines Howdy Peter! In a note to Bobby Queen <01/04/19> Peter Frazer scribbled: PF> Hi Bobby, PF> I'm writing to you as moderator. PF> My taglines are automatically generated by the bbs I am using. PF> Sometimes I fear they may say things that I would never personally PF> say. I usually don't even notice the taglines. :) So don't worry about it unless they are downright dirty. Bobby Queen ... Why are Humans So Unkind? -Roswell Alien 1947. --- Platinum Xpress/386/Wildcat! v1.3c * Origin: Home of the "NASCAR" Bulletins 704-434-8904 (1:18/178) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: F1A00001 Date: 01/05/98 From: CHRISTINA FIELDS Time: 11:52pm \/To: PETER FRAZER (Read 0 times) Subj: Con and unconscious-ness From out of the Darkness, Peter Frazer spoke: PF> Hi Christina, Hi Peter, PF> What are the differences in the space between the 2 methods i.e. how PF> did you feel emotionally, spiritually, physically etc after channeler PF> in both methods or is there no difference? With unconscious channeling, I always get a headache, right on the top of my head. But, there are no emotional ties when the channeling is unconscious. I am an emotional person, so at times I can end a session of conscious channeling and be overly elated or grief stricken. I don't get the headache with the conscious channeling anymore. As for spiritually, there is always an open channel, however I have my filters and watchdogs in place to keep from being bombarded at all hours of the day. CF> I have only done an unconscious channel one time, for my husband. That CF> was CF> so I could give him and his father a chance to talk alone. I was informed CF> by my husband later of the conversation, but I know he didn't tell me CF> everything that was said. PF> It must have been good for your husband to have that contact:) It was very good for both of them. Sam had died when my husband was four years old, so I know there was a lot of things they needed to clear up on both sides of the fence. I have been in contact with Sam a lot. He has shown up to see both his grandchildren after they were born. I'll tell you an interesting story. My daughter got a hold of my husband's wallet one day and was looking through it, when all of a sudden she stopped in the photo section and started saying "Umdah, umdah." Well, she calls my dad, Umpah since my dad wanted to be called Grandpa...I looked at her (she was only 13 months old at the time) and asked her who the person in the picture was, and she said "Umdah" again. I asked her if that was her Granddad Fields...and she grinned and shook her head for yes. She knows her Granddad...and that was the first time she had ever seen Sam's photo. PF> Even though I had a sneaking intuition it was a important woman from PF> South Australian history and who I have an interest in. CF> Did you ever find out the message? If not, let me know. If you are CF> serious about contacting her, I'll see what I can do for you. PF> No I didn't find out. The spirit I'm told got annoyed at my refusal to PF> have unconscious channeling done by my friend and left. She was not annoyed at you for the refusal for unconscious channeling, she was annoyed and disappointed in the person she chose to use for contact. Apparently this person wasn't telling you the whole truth. She doesn't need unconscious channeling to give you any message, she just needs someone who knows what they are doing. PF> I was at a psychic development course and someone told me that she PF> saw a woman behind me and from the description I wondered if it was PF> the spirit I'm talking about. That spirit was not her, but someone else who is from the same time period...a watcher, someone who was sent to find the right channeler for you for the message she wants to give you. PF> I don't feel that this woman is a guide of mine. If this spirit was PF> Catherine Helen Spence then thanks I would be interested in what you PF> could do in this. I see in her something of a kindred spirit. She is not your guide, but an interested party. She knows you are looking for some important information that will help with some studying you have been doing...she wants to know your questions and through her answers she will show you the guide you are to be searching for. She will not give you the original message until you ask your questions. (and all that came through with a 10 on the conscious-o-meter.) :-) --- Blue Wave/386 v2.20 * Origin: Stop by and Waste Away! (717) 957-3108 (1:270/715) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: F1B00000 Date: 01/05/98 From: PETER FRAZER Time: 12:20pm \/To: CHRISTINA FIELDS (Read 0 times) Subj: guides Hi Christina, CF> I CF> wanted to get through a couple of months with my new son before having the CF> party line go off in my head again. So you'll be able to speak to your son's guides and were his guides around during the pregnancy?:) PF> Ah so is this echo alive to the spirit now then? CF> Absolutely. It just takes a few people who know what they are doing to CF> relay. Something in me wishes to make sure this echo stays alive. Hence I've wanted to put in a few posts here. CF> Tell them that The Dark Lady says "Salute". (Let me know their PF> I only have the ability to have irregular contact with my guides, CF> If they have one, you will definitely know it. Wouldn't surprise me if CF> one CF> or two of them finally tell you how to contact them on a more regular CF> basis. CF> That can happen. But, it wouldn't surprise me if all of a sudden you CF> start CF> getting more personal contact from them. I kind've have that effect on CF> guides. That would be good and at the same time a little disturbing. They and I have had disagreements. Once I got this message from a guide. I was having difficulties with my sister. Then I got this message to accept her the way she was. (After all how can I expect people to be clones of my expectations?!) So I told my sister how I had had this message. My sister was so insulted and saw it as patronizing. Anyway one day the guide was in my kitchen and the guide was there as well and my sister. (Now I can't see spirits but my sister can) and I started complaining how the guide had got me into trouble. He started laughing.She says he told her that I had not been able to understand the message properly and there was no need for me to have told my sister of the message. Regards Peter ... IBM. Making tomorrow's mistakes TODAY! --- Ezycom V1.49b2 00F90061 * Origin: Gaz's Grotto #1 Adelaide +61-8-8351-8670 33k6 (3:800/2) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: F1B00001 Date: 01/05/98 From: PETER FRAZER Time: 12:32pm \/To: CHRISTINA FIELDS (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Anyone still here? Hi Christina, PF> good, bad or indifferent. From my perspective, I don't see that all PF> wisdom is monopolised by beings on the other side. CF> No, not all wisdom is from the other side. There is a lot on this side CF> that can be taught to a guide. That's how I see it, but I have met people who seem to be uncomfortable with this. I imagine my guides are around me because they need me in some way, and so i imagine it is for everyone and their guides. PF> path of loosing some personal autonomy. CF> This is true. But, once someone has been doing channeling and ontacting CF> spirits for a while, differentiation of self and those attached to him/her CF> becomes easier. I also suppose that some people are more inclined to giving away their autonomy than others. PF> From where I stand I do not see all guides as posessing the same PF> abilities, experience & talents. CF> They don't...each one is different. That is why they choose the person CF> they do. They find someone who can be open to what they have to CF> teach/say. I imagine that there are some people on the planet who are more spiritually evolved than some of the beings who are currently guides. PF> Now I admit in some of the circles I mix my views come close to being PF> "heretical". CF> Why do you say that? Well I know I have said some things that have challenged the beliefs of some. Or should I say that people have tried to tell me how something is and I have not accepted their view. PF> What qualities does a good channeler need? How does one keep a CF> channel PF> clear & clean? How can one tell when the impulses of the unconscious PF> are disguising themselves as the messages of guides? PF> I love to ask questions:) CF> I noticed. I could answer them, but not right now...I'm a little too CF> tired. I'll write you on them later. No hurry:) Questions are very important to me:) They're how I learn. Regards Peter ... "Soon you will learn to appreciate me." - Jabba --- Ezycom V1.49b2 00F90061 * Origin: Gaz's Grotto #1 Adelaide +61-8-8351-8670 33k6 (3:800/2) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: F1B00002 Date: 01/05/98 From: PETER FRAZER Time: 12:41pm \/To: CHRISTINA FIELDS (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: cyber-technology & channeling Hi Christina, PF> Even though I had a sneaking intuition it was a important woman from PF> South Australian history and who I have an interest in. PF> I don't feel that this woman is a guide of mine. If this spirit was PF> Catherine Helen Spence then thanks I would be interested in what you PF> could do in this. I see in her something of a kindred spirit. Actually i think it's Helen Catherine Spence. Actually I keep forgetting which is the 1st name and which is the middle name. I know so little about South Australian history (although probably a bit more than most people who have no connection with SA!). bye Peter ... I am Tweeti of Borg. I tawt I attimiwated a Puddy Tat! --- Ezycom V1.49b2 00F90061 * Origin: Gaz's Grotto #1 Adelaide +61-8-8351-8670 33k6 (3:800/2) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: F1B00003 Date: 01/06/98 From: PETER FRAZER Time: 04:51pm \/To: BOBBY QUEEN (Read 0 times) Subj: my taglines Hi Bobby, PF> Sometimes I fear they may say things that I would never personally PF> say. BQ> I usually don't even notice the taglines. :) So don't worry about it BQ> unless they are downright dirty. Well the thing is that I have no control over them! I don't know where decorum and prudery start. I've seen taglines around here which i may have no trouble reading but I wouldn't want to be personally associated with. Anyway maybe I could be too sensitive:) bye Peter ... Locutous for Pontiac: Excitment is irrelivent. --- Ezycom V1.49b2 00F90061 * Origin: Gaz's Grotto #1 Adelaide +61-8-8351-8670 33k6 (3:800/2) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: F1B00004 Date: 01/05/98 From: ANDY MANNINGER Time: 01:15pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: SNAC Issue Number 23 [1/5] >>> Part 1 of 5... * Reply to msg originally in Fidonet Netmail I'm forwarding this newsletter to this echo because of its several channeled articles. If you wish--or don't wish--to see further monthly installments of this newsletter in this echo, please let me know. I should add that the article signed by "Andy" is not my name. 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