--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: EAL00019 Date: 06/15/97 From: KOOS NOLST TRENITE Time: 03:02pm \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Insanity of Channeling - Ceanne DeRo15:02:0006/15/97 Reply-to: Koos.Trenite@trenite.de From: "Koos Nolst Trenite" Newsgroups: lt.paranormal.channeling,talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors, lt.alien.wanderers,alt.books,alt.consciousness.4th-way,alt.parano mal,alt.religion.gnostic,comp.org.cpsr.talk,talk.religion.course- Organization: trenite.de Original Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 09:45:28 +0100 [repost due to interference] Well researched and well formulated. Thank you, Patrick. Patrick Alessandra wrote: > > On Channelling > > "According to the research I have done, a "channelled" writing can > actually be from many different types of sources -- some good but some > intent on deception. The criteria to determine this seems to be whether or > not the so-called channeller is conscious or unconscious. If the person is > conscious (awake with eyes open) then it generally would be good. If the > channeller is unconscious (eyes-closed) with some entity using the body > then definitely not good (despite apparent good information...) [Edgar > Cayce was in deep meditation...very different from unconscious possession, > and his work is generally ok]. I believe that truth itself is its own > authority (in the Gospels and in the Bhagavad Gita there is enough for > many lives) and any spiritual truth can be demonstrated as such through > practical living by each of us." > > " In each of us there is a higher spiritual self (the Christ > consciousness, Divine Angel, etc.) and, accordingly, our spiritual > evolution is to come closer and eventually be one with that higher self in > full consciousness. The unconscious rendering of our bodies for the use of > other entities separates us from this spiritual evolution -- this is the > reason that so-called possession is a bad thing. " > > "Any true spiritual being, living on spiritual planes, would communicate > with us through our spiritual self in full consciousness. The use of > someone's unconscious body by another entity is always being done on some > lower level and thus (although those involved may believe that they are > doing the right thing) there is no access by the person to spiritual > information. Also, unconscious body possession sets up a very unhealthy > chemical vibration in the brain cells which usually leads to some form of > debility. " > > "Higher psychism is the faculties of the higher self (Soul and the > Monad), and lower psychism is the faculties of the personality > (physical, emotional and mental senses). These lower faculties can be used > for good or bad. When one is pure, of good character and pursuing a path > of meditation and service then the higher faculties become available and > control the lower one's for use in good. Dangers arise when the lower > (which most animals have to some degree) are focussed on without the > requisite purity and good values -- and with the right purity and values > all faculties unfold naturally if and as needed for the good work. Being > psychic or not in the lower sense says nothing about a person's > spirituality and advanced souls may or may not use these faculties during > an incarnation." > > "I believe that this issue has arisen today because of the increased > etheric resonance of humanity and the recapitulatory prevalence of > etheric vision. This in and of itself can be used for good or bad but > certainly we can hope that good will come and work for this." > > Shanti, > Patrick Alessandra, Psy.D. > -- > *** A.Priori / 1441C Bellevue Way NE / Bellevue, WA 98004 USA > *** aprioripa@aol.com / http://users.aol.com/psychosoph/home.html > *** (425) 455-9259 --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: EAL00020 Date: 06/15/97 From: CHRIS LEWIS Time: 03:02pm \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: cmsg cancel <5nvrkp$i3b$50@nw003.infi.ne15:02:0006/15/97 From: "Chris Lewis" Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Original Date: 15 Jun 1997 09:48:50 GMT CHEERLEADERS spam cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca Original Subject: I found this weird site Total spams this type to date: 301 Total this spam type for this user: 301 Total this spam type for this user today: 299 Originating site: infi.net Complaint addresses: abuse@infi.net --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: EAL00021 Date: 06/15/97 From: NAS Time: 03:02pm \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Afterlife website: info Reply-to: NNTP-Posting-Host: From: "NAS" Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Organization: None Original Date: 15 Jun 1997 15:09:55 GMT Lots of articles regarding the subject of life after death at: http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~kluski --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: EAL00022 Date: 06/15/97 From: RBRAVER@OHWW.NORMAN.OK.US Time: 03:02pm \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: cmsg cancel <5nvl8q$j9m275@news.thorn.ne15:02:0006/15/97 From: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Original Date: 15 Jun 1997 14:42:36 GMT Spam cancelled. Notice ID: 19970615.04. See news.admin.net-abuse.announce r http://spam.ohww.norman.ok.us/spam_notices/19970615.04.html for complete report. Original Subject: ! PROVEN PSYCHICS/FREE PREDICTIONS!! FREE!! --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: EAL00023 Date: 06/15/97 From: MARTI HOWITT Time: 03:02pm \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Help in setting up psychic readings via 15:02:0006/15/97 From: "Marti Howitt" Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Original Date: 15 Jun 1997 15:46:37 GMT I am a psychic, tarot reader, healer... I have not charged for readings via email, or on the web, do not have a web page yet, and my finances are limited... I would appreciate any suggestions from other psychics/channelers/readers on how to go about doing readings via email, and how to charge for them. Any suggestions would be helpful. --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: EAM00000 Date: 06/17/97 From: ANGELA BENNETT Time: 02:32pm \/To: RIJIX (Read 1 times) Subj: hi hi --- FMail 1.22 * Origin: The Enchanted Forest 972-513-0408 (1:124/6120) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: EAN00000 Date: 06/18/97 From: RIJIX Time: 07:02am \/To: ANGELA BENNETT (Read 1 times) Subj: hi I heard Laydron banned you from the board...what's up? --- FMail 1.22 * Origin: The Enchanted Forest 972-513-0408 (1:124/6120) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: EAN00001 Date: 06/18/97 From: CARLISLE BERGQUIST Time: 08:14am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: New Article Reply-to: carlisle@enterquest.com From: "Carlisle Bergquist" Newsgroups: lt.paranet.metaphysics,alt.paranet.paranormal,alt.paranet.psi,alt .paranormal,alt.paranormal.channeling Organization: Vantage Quest Original Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 09:22:46 +0000 We have another new article up that may interest some of you in our "Mine-ezine" section: "Thoughts Beneath the Trees" http://www.enterquest.com/vision/tree.htm The article is titled: "Dancing With The Whole" http://www.enterquest.com/vision/dance1.htm An abstract is included below. As always, the articles are free for the reading. Writers with similar material on new science, transpersonal subjects, and creativity are encouraged to contact us with submissions. Abstract The holistic theory models entrainment as a communicative occurrence. Examples are given from several disciplines and four stages of entrainment are delimited. The essay compares theoretical physicist David Bohm's notions of order with the realms of spirit, mind, and body. It proposes stages of entrainment operant throughout these realms and suggests that they perform cumulatively in the creative or unfolding process. The systems perspective develops the thesis that humankind is an iteration of a larger system and that entrainment is a central factor in the transduction of information between individuals and across system levels. Thanks, Carlisle -- Carlisle Bergquist, MFCC, PH.D.c Creating is a natural act Vantage Quest: Tools for Creativity Enhancement & Personal Growth http://www.enterquest.com/vision/ 11 Carquinez Scenic Dr. #2 Martinez, CA, USA 94553-1023 --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: EAN00002 Date: 06/18/97 From: CLEWIS@FERRET.OCUNIX.ON.C Time: 08:14am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: cmsg cancel <5noe2k$dtn$132@nw001.infi.n08:14:0006/18/97 From: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Organization: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO Original Date: Thu, 12 Jun 97 23:22:00 +0200 Original Date: 12 Jun 1997 15:58:06 EST EMP/ECP (aka SPAM) cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca. See news.admin.net-abuse.announce, report 19970612.16 for further details --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: EAN00003 Date: 06/18/97 From: ALFA Time: 08:14am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Psychic Phenomena - Free From: "Alfa" Newsgroups: lt.paranormal,alt.paranormal.channeling,talk.religion.newage,alt. consciousness.near-death-exp,alt.magick Organization: Omen Internet, Perth, Western Australia Original Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 16:10:44 GMT Scientific & philosophic spiritualism is currently known as Christian Rationalism (NOT religion) and deals with: Physical & Psychic Phenomena, Philosophical & Psychological issues, Reincarnation, Incorporeal Life, Space & the Universe, the Power of Thought, Mediumnity, Evolution, Gods & Religions, Force & Matter, the Aura, Ethics, Psychic Cleansing (meditation), Dreams, Family & Children, etc. If interested you can get the book free of charge from the WEB. and save it to a disk.: http://www.spiritweb.org/ChristianRationalism/index.html Alternatively we can send you the book via email at: alfa@omen.com.au For even more details about this spiritualistic philosophy please visit either: http://www.omen.com.au/~alfa/index.html OR http://members.aol.com/Ebyrd1/index.html =================================================== It is a sign of inferiority for anyone to think he is superior to his fellow man. 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