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From: BITBUCKET@NEWS.MSFC.NASA.                             Time: 09:31am
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FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING    Ref: E2J00002 Date: 02/14/97
From: JONATHAN YOVEL                                        Time: 09:31am
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Subj: <no subject>

From: "Jonathan Yovel" <jyo342@nwu.edu>
Newsgroups: 
            
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     Original Date: 
Subject: Re: Apollo Moon Landings Faked Propoganda
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 97 01:04:52 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL.   USA
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Message-ID: <5e0dnk$1sl6_001@nuts.nwu.edu>
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In article <5dc2fg$4a7@cocoa.brown.edu>,
   Joon_Nak_Choi@brown.edu (Joon_Nak_Choi) wrote:
>In article <5db8kt$2nv@junkie.gnofn.org>, lrh02@gnofn.org says...
>>
>>
>>: and watched them hit the lunar surface at the same time.    I thought of
>>: the claim that this was faked, and the size of the vacuum chamber that
>>: would have had to be built to simulate that effect, and the megatons of
>>: air pressure on the roof of such a chamber, and concluded that it would
>>: have been easier to actually go to the moon than to fake it.
>>: -- 
>>
>>In younger days, I thought the same as you.  However, it has
>>become increasingly obvious that even w/ today's far more
>>sophisticated  computers, we can't go to the moon, so it's
>>getting awful hard to believe  we could do it in 1969.
>>                                          --Leigh
>>
>
>I think that what you are referring to is an article which states that the 
US 
>would not be able to go to the moon today.  Its point was NOT that it wasn't 
>possible to go to the moon due to the lack of technology, but that it is not 
>possible today to devote the 3% of GNP that we allocated to the Apollo 
Project. 
> That meant that of everything produced in the US in 1969, every $3 out of 
$100 
>was given to Apollo, a larger amount than that was spent on primary 
education. 
> (Of course, a much smaller percentage of GNP would be needed today, but 
with 
>the Federal Debt, I doubt that the political will would be there.  Today, 
the 
>special interests would be all over Congress about allocating good money 
that 
>could have been spent building a pork entrails recycling research facility 
in 
>Iowa to the black hole of space).
>
>					JC
>
Which shows you, that above anything else, the moonlanding was a bureaucratic 
triumph rather than a scientific one. JY...
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FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING    Ref: E2J00003 Date: 02/14/97
From: JAL KAE                                               Time: 09:31am
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Subj: Open Letter: Better Bodies, God

From: "Jal Kae" <starbldr@gate.net>
Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling
Organization: CyberGate, Inc.
Original Date: 13 Feb 1997 22:08:24 -0500
An IROOT:NOTian Open Letter
We address this open letter to the God(ess), the Force of Evolution, the
Planetary Consciousness, or whoever is in charge of designing the human
body. 
After not much discussion, IROOT:NOTians came to a unanimous agreement (a
miracle in itself). Specifically, we believe that whoever designed the
human body could have done a better job. You can make it much more
efficient, less gross, and with cooler features. 
Because we live in a miraculous universe and because we can imagine the
possibility, we are voicing suggestions about what features we'd like to
see in the next human form. We feel qualified to suggest these changes,
not because we are IROOT:NOTians, but because we live in these fleshy
animal suits. (They have their charm.) *We have to deal with it, God; you
don't.*
For starters, here's what we'd like to see:
* The ability for limbs and other body parts to grow back. (Lizards have
  the right idea.) 
* For women, an alternate to the menstrual cycle.
* A purr box, to express contentment, like cats have.
* A turn-off-the-brain button for easy sleep and meditation.
* No flatulence.
* An immune system that can screen out all viruses.
* Totally harmonized sexual drives.
* Teeth that won't decay or break.
* Brains that stay alert for the entire lifetime and function at 90%
  capacity, at least. 
* No "bad chemicals" in the brain that make some people crazy. 
* Eyes that always have 20/20 vision or better and a pair in the back of
  the head. 
* The ability to be cool, without spending a lot of money.
Okay. Consider this a start. We invite everyone to add to this letter. We
will print the responses of IROOT:NOT members in the first quarterly issue
of "Living in the Eternal Wow!," IROOT:NOT's vital meta-organ. 
For more information about IROOT:NOT and IROOT:NOTics, send e-mail saying,
"mo' info" to: starbldr@gate.net. 
-- 
As Light, we are one.      < "We do our best, Spirit does the rest." >
                           <----------------------------------------->       
Evin               < Home page: http://www.lightwork.dk/Starbuilders > 
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FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING    Ref: E2J00004 Date: 02/14/97
From: CYBER SERVICES                                        Time: 09:31am
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Subj: GIF, JPEG scanning service. FREE OFFER! 09:31:0002/14/97

From: "Cyber Services" <scanning@XXX1324noreply.com>
Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling
Original Date: Thu, 13 Feb 97 21:45:16 GMT
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From: BITBUCKET@NEWS.MSFC.NASA.                             Time: 09:31am
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Subj: cmsg cancel <5e1d45$67j@oracle.damerica.09:31:0002/14/97

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FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING    Ref: E2J00006 Date: 02/14/97
From: DRHODES@MAIL.UTEP.EDU                                 Time: 09:31am
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Subj: Worth a second look :-) - life saver.txt09:31:0002/14/97

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     Organization: Digital America
Original Date: 14 Feb 1997 10:00:36 GMT
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FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING    Ref: E2J00007 Date: 02/14/97
From: K.C                                                   Time: 01:53pm
\/To: ALL                                                 (Read 1 times)
Subj: Re: www.psychicastrologer

From: "K.C" <craner@cf.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: 
            
lt.make.money,alt.make.money.fast,alt.meditation,alt.misc,alt.par
            
normal,alt.paranormal.channeling,alt.paranormal.spells,alt.parano
            
mal.spells.hexes,alt.paranormal.spells.hexes.magic,alt.personal,a
     Organization: Posted through the Joint Cardiff Computing Service, Wales,
UK
Original Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 14:28:54 GMT
Susan Straton (she was too afraid to give a valid e-mail address)  is the 
woman who claims to be the only genuine psychic on the internet.  I take 
it she has had those powers of hers properly validated.  It would be 
quite easy.  She makes the claim she can tell a problem without any 
information,  why not put it to the test Susan?
If you are the only genuine psychic on the net then I take it you will be 
the only psychic to claim the 2000 club prize fund.  For those of you who 
did not know there is one million U.S dollars for any psychic who can 
demonstrate their powers under properly controlled observing conditions. 
Of course Susan will probably make an excuse like the other psychics have 
(It's nice to know that Susan is a sceptic.  After all she does think 
that every other psychic on the net is a fraud, cheat, charletan etc).
So before you give Susie a call remember.  THERE IS A COOL MILLION 
WAITING FOR HER IF SHE CAN DEMONSTRATE HER POWERS.   So come on, what are 
you waiting for?  Could it be, just possibly that you are afraid?
KEVIN CRANER 
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FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING    Ref: E2J00008 Date: 02/14/97
From: MIKKO PAAKKUNAINEN                                    Time: 01:53pm
\/To: ALL                                                 (Read 1 times)
Subj: Re: ***  SPIRITISM !!!

From: "Mikko Paakkunainen" <p116674@cs.tut.fi>
Newsgroups: 
            
lt.paranormal,alt.paranet.paranormal,alt.paranormal.channeling,al
            t.paranormal.spells.hexes.magic
Organization: Tampere University of Technology
Original Date: 14 Feb 1997 15:01:41 GMT
Lars Petter Anfinsen <lars@funcom.com> wrote in article
<855847181.430291@araga.funcom.com>...
> 
> Well, we have done this for two weeks now, using a back of a poster,
drawn
> the entire alphabet,numbers, yes,no maybe,dont know.
> 
> And using a glass upside down.
> 
> Our neighbours have been on vacation for two weeks. there are no one left
> at 1st. floor.  We live at the 2.floor.    After we have used the board,
> we have heard LOUD noices, like doors slamming, and almost as someone
have
> a fight ,and throw eac other around, downstairs.
> 
> This is not possible,cause there are no one there ,the doorbell, the
> telephone, we have tried it all, to contackt them if they are downstairs.
> no one answearing.
> 
> We asked questions like: what will we be doing about 3 months: answer:
> rotting.
> 
> we are 3 persons, how many in the room?    answer 4.
> 
> Are you good or evil? answer:  -good.
> whats your name:    sataz
> 
> And other times we have asked to get a sign, and then after, we have
heard
> three whistelings,    a other example was when they asked him to make a
> noise, the doorbell runget couple of ours after, they(my mates) opened,
> and there
> stood a man saying: now you have seen me.Then he left, but when they went
> to
> the window he was not there, not on the road, or pavement.
> 
> And we have heard loud clear footsteps up the stairs and untill it
reached
> our door, but no one there.
> 
Well, what I have heard, they have usually (if not always) been some kind
of "evil" spirits or dead human spirits that have come through in these
kind
of spiritism plays. It seems to me that the "greater" spirits just don't
have much motivatation to join these plays.
> This sounds silly, many of my mates dont belive us, but we can assure you
> all that its true.       This is dangerous? right?
> 
It is sometimes quite dangerous. For example:
There was an adult man who was interested in satanism and tried to get some
young people (many of them were children) involved into his "hobbies".
They played spiritism and one of these children just get mad . They (these
childer) had to ask help from one good old woman highly experienced with
paranormal things. (I don't know the present situation of this case.)
And another case (not so dangerous but just showing that these things
work):
A woman I know played with her friends spiritism one time in his youth.
They had taken a little bit wine (not too much) and the message they got
from the other side was: "the connection works quite well, but the wine
confuses it a little bit." And as I can remember the signature they got
was: satan. Anyway, the signature one get from these spirits could be
anything from satan to God, because I think it's possible for spirits
to tell a lie like it's possible for us (normal human beings) too.
And so on. The world is quite full of these kind of stories.
> Then we broke tha glasses, and then the sounds downstairs dissapeard a
> while after.
> 
> Please mail me, and tell me what you think.. Have you a clue what this
is?
> Lars.
> -- 
 
To get a connection with spirits is many times quite easy, as you have
noticed. It doesn't need any high moral or high ethical development from
people to do this. BUT, to get rid of them may sometimes be beyond hard
work and it may not always succeed at all.
The only real benefit I can see in these spiritism plays is that the
players get some kind of proof that the invisible world is out there.
But nothing more. (Well, it may be a lot for some skeptical person
who don't belive for anything spiritual, but...?!?). If someone really
wants to know more about these paranormal phenomena, there are a great
many books about these, so everyone need not to experience all these
things by himself/herself.
So I recommend people just to jump over these plays with the lower level
of spiritual world, and start to study something more valuable about
spiritual things, something which demand higher ethical development, moral
and so on from student. One could for example study about "White
brotherhood"
or "Hierarcy" or something like that, something from the "white side".
Mikko
Finland
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From: RBRAVER@OHWW.NORMAN.OK.US                             Time: 01:53pm
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Subj: cmsg cancel <OIg90dfG8GA.222@uptgmsnb01>13:53:0002/14/97

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Original Date: 14 Feb 1997 16:52:04 GMT
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