--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E1F00019 Date: 01/10/97 From: DOUGLAS LATHROP Time: 8:40:am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Nutopian Security Update! From: "Douglas Lathrop" Newsgroups: lt.consciousness,alt.society.neutopia,alt.jyotish,alt.journalism, lt.cyberspace,alt.consciousness,alt.alien.visitors,alt.cyberpunk, lt.cyberspace.rebels,alt.religion.kibology,alt.paranormal.channel Organization: Primenet (602)416-7000 Original Date: 9 Jan 1997 11:41:04 -0700 Bigfoot wrote: : In article <5b0rnj$rk7$1@proxy01.iafrica.com>, Schwann says... : : >Those interested in tracking this phenommenon should also check : >alt.dreams.castaneda. : I got three words for you. Don't go there. (Save yourself a : wrinkled brow.) Isn't Castaneda a stupendous fraud? And if he was, what does that make folks who continue to take him seriously, like the cyber-schmuck? -- D O U G L A S P. L A T H R O P -------------------------------------------------------------------------- A.S.G-X Poster Child - Two words: Bon Vivant! - The NeuFreud of the USENET Visit Stately PAPER CUT MANOR! http://www.primenet.com/~lathrop/index.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ||||||||| "Honey, prepare to enter the hive of the Anti-Christ." ||||||||| --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E1F00020 Date: 01/10/97 From: SCHWANN Time: 8:41:am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Nutopian Security Update! From: "Schwann" Newsgroups: lt.consciousness,alt.society.neutopia,alt.jyotish,alt.journalism, lt.cyberspace,alt.consciousness,alt.alien.visitors,alt.cyberpunk, lt.cyberspace.rebels,alt.religion.kibology,alt.paranormal.channel Organization: UUNET Internet Africa Original Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 19:43:20 GMT "D.P. Roberts" wrote: >Schwann wrote: >> panther@lava.net (albert the panther) >> root@tailor.aleim.net (root) >> pierbar@lava.net (pier) >> kevn@lava.net (Kevn) >> lintilla@fielding.demon.co.uk (Lintilla) >> firewall@morat.phx (Lady Catwinter) >> klaus@netcom.ca (Katherine Lacknipple) >> capnroberts@earthlink.net (D.P. Roberts) >> >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> >> The above addresses are suspected of being a multiple personality. >> Might even be the some of the old Andrea Chen gang because they seem >> to've launched a dedicated offensive. Not just flaming but an outright >> multiple character campaign including psycho harrassment. >In other words, this is a list of people who have disagreed with Schwann >in the last month. nono, it's a much bigger list than that. >Even paranoids have enemies, but don't you think you're taking this to an extreme? The chinese say, "keep your friends close, but keep your enemies even closer". >> The personality who runs these character scams has no purpose or >> philosophy other than power over other peoples paths. >We beg to differ, jointly and severally. My purpose in each of these >personae is to help you and others like you achieve self-accualization. >Take Doctress Neutopia's ecofeminism, f'rinstance. If my gang of >trapdoor spiders weren't raising a ruckus and opposing her (sometimes >for real, sometimes faux), nobody would be paying her any attention. We >(or more correctly, I) have done more in a month's postings to advance >the idea of Neu Neutopia and to sharpen Doctress Neutopia's thinking >than YOU have done in a year of praising her. You're opinionated but I'll allow this in the hope it will burst your bubble quicker this time. >So stick that in your smug, self-satisfied pipe and smoke it. Sorry, I don't smoke pipes. Bad for you. >You, and others who are so complacent they can't do any better than sit >on their dead ass and repost the same shopworn thoughts week after week, >are the enemy of the people. Hehe, yeh right. What we got now? A fight for the totally correct political platform? I'm an anarchist at heart. Go ahead. >> Those interested in tracking this phenommenon should also check alt.dreams.castaneda >No thanks, we'd rather visit > why? you unpopular there already? >> Originally based on alt.cyberspace, these could be the very same >> pseudo-psychologists regularly despatched into Usenet by as yet >> unknown powers-that-be [...] >Not could be, Mr. Wannabe. We ARE!!!! And immediately ripping off my words? I'm flattered. "We are shining songs of light whirling into the technological night. We cut and paste ourselves into many shapes and sizes. We manipulate text and images and sounds into ecstacies of impossible thoughts. We are not afraid of the blue beam. We are the last true artists of the planet....." Ah, such nostalgia when I read those words. Thanks for the repost. Of course you could also have got it from my website last night. http://aztec.co.za/users/schwann/webcolm.html >> [...] who are constantly trying to fragment any real issues because >> they know that the bonding of our group-consciousness may be >> enabling evolutionary cultural growth which in turn could make >> it possible for a truly democratic rethink on the fundamental >> priorities of human affairs. Are you still full of bondage and sexual perversion masquerading as understanding and respect. Do you enjoy turning things inside out. >El wrongo, fuckwit. We bring LIFE to the discussion. We ENABLE the >bonding for which you crave by providing the dialectic opposition that >causes the discussion to resonate with the vibe of something more than >self-absorbed PREACHING. Maybe you have a small point here. We could try and build on this if you really want to change things. Show some community spirit for once. I've extended my hand before. >No, we just don't like you. And we don't like you because you are >nothing more than a religious proselytizer - no better than a >streetcorner preacher or a door-to-door missionary - just selling a >different creed. Wrong again. You have implanted visions of what you want to see. I'm not selling religion. I'm experiencing something called "a state of being" and want to share it. Fools. >You have taken the vibrant vision of Doctress Neutopia and made it >pedestrian and boring. That is your crime, you stinking dildo. You're >boring. Gee, doesn't take much to get you to strip does it. >And you're jealous of the D.P. Roberts / Lady Catwinter gang because I >(or rather, we) are NOT BORING. Haha, hehe..History is the judge of things like that. Be warned that hanging out here can cause you to experience discontinuous reality as we slide towards the edge of the millennium. >Huh? What on freaking earth does this "let's stare into the >refrigerator 'til I'm enlightened" idiocy have to do with rational >discourse? No it means that you only think you think what you are thinking which also means you may be suffering from millennium psychosis. Maybe you should see one of your Doctor friends? They probably have Haldol there also. >> Some say that Usenet is the 'soul' of the Internet, and thus the >> Global 'collective unconscious'. Others say that cyberpunk recited >> tales of virtual myths doesn't explain 'synthetic mysticism' to them. >Words, words, words on a page. It sounds as though you've collected a >few spiffy phrases and just sort of dumped them in here to sound COOL. Hey, I'm cool in real life too. >Sigh. We can't take much more of this. so drop out again, I've only just started:) >> Shrug. Plato reputedly created the concept of eternity, which may be >> the summation of all our yesterdays, today's and tommorows [...] >No, it was Shakespeare: C'mon, don't confuse the audience. It was Plato. >But that was a nice try, 'specially coming from someone who hasn't >graced us with an original thought in over three years. Again, why don't *you* write something we can all crit without using *me* as it's focal point. >[snip - fer chrissake, this is getting ridinkulous] Yes, it's something I got paid for. >We mean this in only the nicest way, Mr. Cypher-Shaemon-Schwann, but >your earnest more-correct-than-thou attitude and pissant sermonizing >about the 'global mind' is fast becoming the slag-heap of Usenet. You >are a geopolitical sideshow with no real interest in studying the issue. Please, save the rhetoric for someone who appreciates it. Otherwise come up with some original ideas yourself. >One life - Respect, >D.P. Roberts same to you.. Pleased you saved my stuff? I am. PLUR (new one straight from the Rave scene) schwann-cyber-shaman --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E1F00021 Date: 01/10/97 From: 'JESSE GARON' Time: 8:41:am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Nutopian Security Update! From: "'Jesse Garon'" Newsgroups: lt.consciousness,alt.society.neutopia,alt.jyotish,alt.journalism, lt.cyberspace,alt.consciousness,alt.alien.visitors,alt.cyberpunk, lt.cyberspace.rebels,alt.religion.kibology,alt.paranormal.channel Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet Original Date: 9 Jan 1997 12:50:05 -0700 Douglas Lathrop writes: >Bigfoot wrote: >: In article <5b0rnj$rk7$1@proxy01.iafrica.com>, Schwann says... >: >Those interested in tracking this phenommenon should also check >: >alt.dreams.castaneda. >: I got three words for you. Don't go there. >Isn't Castaneda a stupendous fraud? Bite your tongue, Doug! Java-based apps like Castaneda are going to herald a new age of webcasting! Streaming data, continually updated... about the only thing that'd be better would be a USENET with music and pictures! "Jesse Garon": the God damnedest mass of tact known to the human race --------------------------------------------------------------------- grifter@primenet.com http://www.primenet.com/~grifter/jesse.html --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E1F00022 Date: 01/10/97 From: DAVE Time: 8:41:am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: seeking John Edward Reply-to: bergerd@gramercy.ios.com From: "Dave" Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Organization: IDT Original Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 16:03:42 +0000 I would like to contact John Edward the psychic trans-medium from Huntington N.Y. I saw him profiled in Newsday, and would very much like to contact him. If anyone can help me please E-mail me thanks --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E1F00023 Date: 01/10/97 From: KEITH Time: 8:41:am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: 100% pure essential oils just$7, 15 ml b8:41:46001/10/97 From: "Keith" Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Organization: iiNet Technologies Original Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 10:10:51 +0800 Over 50 in range, also Turkish rose and jasmine5% absolutes just $15!!! Deal direct and prosper , email me spock@iinet.net.au for more info --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E1F00024 Date: 01/10/97 From: DOUGLAS LATHROP Time: 8:41:am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Nutopian Security Update! From: "Douglas Lathrop" Newsgroups: lt.consciousness,alt.society.neutopia,alt.jyotish,alt.journalism, lt.cyberspace,alt.consciousness,alt.alien.visitors,alt.cyberpunk, lt.cyberspace.rebels,alt.religion.kibology,alt.paranormal.channel Organization: Primenet (602)416-7000 Original Date: 9 Jan 1997 20:48:01 -0700 Schwann wrote: : "D.P. Roberts" wrote: : >And you're jealous of the D.P. Roberts / Lady Catwinter gang because I : >(or rather, we) are NOT BORING. : Haha, hehe..History is the judge of things like that. Good grief! Schwann vs. the Chendorks in a knock-down-drag-out-take-no-prisoners-ask-no-quarter flamewar! I'm having trouble deciding who to root for. : Be warned that hanging out here can cause you to experience : discontinuous reality as we slide towards the edge of the millennium. I take it back. If the Chendorks could write stuff as insipid as this, she/he/they might actually be entertaining. But until then, I guess I'll have to root for the cyber-schmuck. -- D O U G L A S P. L A T H R O P -------------------------------------------------------------------------- A.S.G-X Poster Child - Two words: Bon Vivant! - The NeuFreud of the USENET Visit Stately PAPER CUT MANOR! http://www.primenet.com/~lathrop/index.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ||||||||| "Honey, prepare to enter the hive of the Anti-Christ." ||||||||| --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E1F00025 Date: 01/10/97 From: RAY OSBORNE Time: 8:41:am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Worldwide Meditation for Abundance From: "Ray Osborne" Newsgroups: lt.paranormal.channeling,alt.paranet.metaphysics,alt.meditation,t alk.religion.newage,alt.consciousness Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Original Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 07:15:43 GMT jlpayne@box.nl (John Payne) wrote: >Celebration of Abundance >This worldwide meditation has been requested and organised by >Sanaya Roman and Duane Packer, along with their guides Orin and >DaBen, developers of the Awakening Your Light Body material and >authors of Living With Joy, Spiritual Growth, Opening to Channel >and other titles. > Celebration of Abundance > A Group Call to the Great Ones to Assist Humanity > Join us on the inner planes April 6 1997 > > Sunday morning 9:00-9:30 am Pacific/California Time > Sunday Midday 12:00 Easter Standard Time > > Sunday evening 18:00 Central European Time > > Sunday Afternoon 17:00 U.K. > > Sunday Afternoon 17:00 U.K. >Mark Your Calendar Now! >We are inviting you to call upon the Great Ones to change beliefs >of scarcity into beliefs of abundance. Each one of you will be a >point of light through which the Great Ones can transmit the >energies of abundance to others. >We can work together to make a difference. Beliefs in scarcity >create many problems in our world. If everyone believed in >abundance and were able to create in their lives, there would be >no need for wars. Poverty, hunger, and many of the problems of >humanity could be solved. With a belief in abundance, there would >be no need to take more than was needed from the environment. >Join us in calling on the Great Ones as a group, receiving and >radiating their love to others. You can make a difference! Every >moment you radiate their energy you are helping humanity. >Mark your calendar. Joins us by following the instructions below >on April 6th. Invite your friends, loved ones, and students who >are ready to create abundance to join us to call upon the Great >Ones. >You can request extra newsletters for those wanting to join in >this Celebration of Abundance from: >LuminEssence Productions >P.O. Box 1310 >Medford, Oregon >OR 97501 United States >Tel: 541 - 770 6700 >Fax: 541 - 770 6632 >How To call Upon the Great Ones >Who are the Great Ones? These are Beings of Light who are even >more evolved than the Masters. Although they never interfere with >free will, they can be called upon to assist humanity to evolve, >to live souls, and to assist humanity to lift some of the >conditions present. They work through those who call upon them >and through those who hear and respond to the energies they are >transmitting. They can see the past, present and potential >future, have the wisdom to know how to best help humanity. They >respond only to group need and lend their assistance when called >upon by enough sincere people. They are in touch with the highest >forces of light, and can work from these high levels to help >humanity create changes. >Join together in a Celebration of Abundance and call upon the >Great >OnesApril 6th 1997, by follwoing the steps below. >1. Relax your body, calm your emotions, and clear your mind. Let >yourself feel more and more peaceful. >2. Travel to the soul plane by focussing on the Solar Light. >3. Go to the Temple of the Enlightened Ones and blend with your >soul. >4. Call your soul to you and blend with it . >5. Imagine that you can sense or see the souls of everyone who is >joining together for this meditation. Greet these souls, and feel >the beautiful light that all of you are creating. >6. Picture being joined by many beings of light who are here to >work with you to call the Great Ones. >7. A group Om is sounded. You might want to sound an OM aloud. >Everyone in the group is focussing together to call upon the >Great Ones to assist humanity to awaken their heart centres. >Imagine you can hear this beautiful harmonized, and powerful call >to the Great Ones. >8. The Great Ones hear and respond. Receive their transmissions >of abundance into your Heart Center. Sense you heart center >growing radiant. You may have a sense of their transmission of >love, you may not. You awareness of their transmission is not >required to receive the energy being sent to you to transforms >your beliefs in scarcity into beliefs of abundance >9. Finish by radiating the energy you have recieved to: >*Your friends and family >*To all those who can respond to your light, past, present or >future >*To all lightworkers on the planet >*To all of humanity >*To the plant,animal and mineral kingdom, and to the Earth >herself. >Have no attachment to any results, for there may be none that you >can measure. You have just made a valuable and important >contribution to humanity by your call to the Great Ones for them >to change beliefs of scarcity into beliefs of abundance for all.