--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E5P00006 Date: 05/17/97 From: SPIRITWIND Time: 05:41pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Ouija Boards From: "SpiritWind" Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Organization: A Little Bit Of Heaven Original Date: 17 May 1997 19:39:14 GMT Anyone have any interesting stories about the Ouija Board? Has anyone ever contacted the dead while using the board? Does the Ouija work for you "alone"?? --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E5P00007 Date: 05/17/97 From: PATRICK BROOKINGS Time: 05:41pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Paddy's Paranormal Forum From: "Patrick Brookings" Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Organization: EUnet Belgium, Leuven, Belgium Original Date: 17 May 1997 20:59:03 GMT Hi ! If you are interested in paranormal phenomena, ghosts, UFO's and all those kinds of things then you should come and visit Paddy's Paranormal Forum. There you can find lots of links to other interesting websites about the same subjects. And what's more in the forum you can discuss those subjects with other people from all over the world. Just respond to a message (or create a new one) and see what they will respond to that. You can also add your own spooky but true stories to my list. Too much to mention actually. You'll just have to come and see for yourself ! Go to Paddy's Homepage at http://www.ping.be/Paddy/index.htm (be sure to type a capital letter P for Paddy !) and follow the link to my Paranormal Forum. Have fun !! Greetings, Patrick Brookings patrick.brookings@ping.be --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E5P00008 Date: 05/17/97 From: NAS Time: 05:41pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Afterlife website From: "NAS" Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Original Date: 17 May 1997 14:32:13 GMT If you are interested in the subject of life after death, why not visit the site at: http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~kluski Lots of articles about the subject. --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E5P00009 Date: 05/17/97 From: MIZTAURUS Time: 05:41pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Free Incense Sample From: "MizTaurus" Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Original Date: 17 May 1997 11:44:26 GMT FREE INCENSE SAMPLE FROM MYSTIC WIND! Mystic Wind is offering a free sample of their hand-dipped incense for new customers. We are a new company specializing in exotic and hard to find incenses, oils, resins, coal tablets, etc. as well as a wide assortment of unique burners. Please indicate whether you wish for your sample to be Patchouli, Amber, Rose, Sandalwood or Musk. Send $1.00 for postage and handling (which is totally refundable with your first order) to: Mystic Wind c/o Julie Longstreet 2661 Midway Road #224-410 Carrollton, TX 75006 If you send a check, please make it payable to Julie Longstreet I have many sources in which to get incense products, so if there is a special incense that you are looking for, please let me know. Thank you. --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E5P00010 Date: 05/17/97 From: AVALON412 Time: 05:41pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: re: JENNIFER AVALON***TIM From: "Avalon412" Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Original Date: Thu, 15 May 97 11:30:00 +0200 Original Date: 15 May 1997 10:24:11 GMT Dear Eagle In The Sky, Your words are beautifully spoken. Thank you for contacting me. Love, Jennifer Avalon E-Mail: Avalon412@aol.com http://www.AviatorRecords.com --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E5P00011 Date: 05/17/97 From: JAL KAE Time: 05:41pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: The Self Shell Game From: "Jal Kae" Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Organization: CyberGate, Inc. Original Date: Thu, 15 May 97 20:37:00 +0200 Original Date: 15 May 1997 11:46:06 -0400 The True-Self Shell Game What does the term "true self" mean? For most, it means one's essence. Currently, there exist at least eight models describing the true self. These models are The Individual Soul, The Body, Humanity +, An Illusion, God, A Projection, One Soul, and Dohno. Models that describe the true self are useful. They offer a framework to help you become a better person in some way. A disadvantage is that they can trick you into thinking that you're "special." Most define the "false self" - the nemesis of the true self - as either the ego or the physical body. Models are *pictures* of reality. However, something happens when you believe in them. They become real - to you. (Believing that your picture is real and that all others are false is normal. This quirk is a natural but peculiar function of the human mind.) Although no models are flawless, True Believers will try to convince you otherwise about theirs. People usually label "false doctrines" (beliefs other than their own) as anything from "superstition" to "works of the devil." Ironically, one day you may "wake up" and "see the Truth." Your old model, the one that you've relied on, suddenly looks like antiquated false doctrine. What other advantages and disadvantages do these models offer? Are there consequences for disbelief? What follows are brief sketches of these systems. 1. THE INDIVIDUAL SOUL In many Eastern and Western religions, one's supreme identity is the *soul*. Most Western religions believe that God watches the individual's behavior. After you die, He either eternally rewards or punishes you. If you follow your religion's moral codes, you (as soul) go to Heaven. Most Eastern religions believe that you (as soul) must become perfect, balance all of its karma, and become detached from everything. You must continue to reincarnate until you complete these tasks and become enlightened. Advantages and Disadvantages: Religions can coerce individual souls to behave morally. After all, who wants to burn in hell forever or to reincarnate repeatedly into miserable lives? Religions can produce strong, stable community ties. They provide answers to humanity's key questions, fulfilling a human psychological need. (Who am I? What am I doing here? Can I go now?) When you believe in a soul, you assume trans-Herculean tasks. For example, it's not actually possible to balance your karma. Also, the idea of the individual soul conveniently reflects the fears and desires of the ego. 2. THE BODY This is the atheistic model. The true self is the human body. This system aligns itself with Earth's natural rhythms: Things die, new ones are born. It's a natural process, like the seasons, and apparently works without God or a soul. When you die, your true self dies. If you are a disbeliever, some believers say that you will discover the (atheistic) truth, but too late. Advantages and Disadvantages: By believing "this is it," you take responsibility for your actions. The devil didn't make you do it. It frees you from the tyrannies of unbalanced moral commands. ("God says to kill the infidel.") The possibility of suffering in future lives or going to hell doesn't stress you. A disadvantage is that you can't live a miraculous life. Also, in a time of need, you have no higher force with whom to find comfort. Although atheists see those who rely on God to be weak, others see this relation- ship as a blessing. 3. HUMANITY + At the first level of this model, your true self is the human race. You are a cell in the Body Human. Like a living hologram, you embody the potential of all human thought, emotion, fear, suffering, joy, hope, and aspiration. The idea that you are separate from the rest of humanity is the false self. As Human, you accept the physical divisions of gender and sub-race and the man-made divisions of nationality and creed. You are able, however, to transcend the polarized qualities inherent in them. You are the drive to survive and preserve the species, to reproduce, and to take root in as many places possible. This model is expandable. At the second level, you are Earth's *Human Project*. (The *Human Project* is one of Earth's many.) Go up another level and you become a part of Sol's *Planetary Project*. Go up a step further, and you're part of the Milky Way's *Galactic Project*. You can take this all the way to the All-That-Is's *Creation of Everything Project*. Advantages and Disadvantages: This model allows you to accept your existential condition and grow from there. Also, it builds compassion. You treat others with respect. You do this not because you're afraid of hell or bad karma and not because your trying to collect good karma or even to please God. The reason is, you want to do it. Problems develop when you identify with the *Creation of Everything Project* before psychologically coming to terms with your Humanity. This makes you "top heavy" and out of balance. 4. AN ILLUSION In the world of science, one of the Next Big Things is neuroscience. The technicians and theoreticians in this field are tackling the question of self using the tools of science. They assume the individual self is an hallucination. There is no true or false self. Somehow, neurons firing away in the brain create this illusion. "You" are a relationship of electrical impulses. You just *think* that you are someone! Once the brain dies, the illusion ceases. Neuroscience is in its infancy, and most of its views are highly speculative. If you are a disbeliever, some believers may view you as superstitious, afraid to face reality. Advantages and Disadvantages: One advantage of this belief is that you realize that *everyone* is transparent. Everyone is no one. Reality loosens up, at least in your mind. Science may prove the Hindu doctrine that the self is a part of Maya (illusion). Disadvantages include that you can't live a miraculous life. Believing that individuals are electrical impulses can inhibit the growth of compassion, a much needed human sentiment. 5. GOD You can interpret this model in two ways. One is that the believer is "God in person." The false self doesn't exist. The other is that the true self is God. In this, the false self exists. Disbelievers won't realize their divine potential. Advantages: Believing that the false self is God promotes confidence. You must take responsibility for your actions. Believing that the true self is God promotes unity consciousness. Disadvantages: A few disadvantages exist with the "God in Person" model. You have vast ego-inflating potential. It also can shatter your confidence when you discover that you aren't omnipotent. Additionally, you leave little room for the universe to surprise you; as God, you should know everything. As an individual God, you might not live a miraculous life! A disadvantage of the true self being God is that the individual "I" can subtly lurk in your unconscious. This promotes separation. 6. A PROJECTION Is it possible that the true self is an other-dimensional being, projecting its consciousness into the human body? You've heard about channeling; maybe you even channel. Channeling happens when an other-dimensional entity projects its consciousness into a human body. A walk-in happens the same way. When you channel, though, the false self doesn't leave the body. It takes a rear seat to the visiting entity. During a walk-in event, the visiting consciousness takes over the body completely. (In the old days, when a malevolent entity would take over a body, they'd call it a *possession*.) The Projection model says that some time between conception and birth the other-dimensional consciousness enters the body. It remains throughout the life of the individual. Evolution happens as the visiting consciousness projects its higher-dimensional energy fields and insights into the human host. When the body dies, the other-dimensional consciousness withdraws from the body. It awakens from its human dream. The projecting consciousness can be any entity who can project its mind into forms. Planetary consciousnesses are famous for this. Most of humanity is a projection of Earth's consciousness. Stellar entities can do this as well (producing "star" people). S eventh-dimensional entities explore and collect experience in this way. One of these beings can project its consciousness into millions of life forms simultaneously throughout the universe. Metaphysically, this model correlates to the Superstring theory of science. Superstring is an extremely small (and theoretical) particle posited by physics. These strings wriggle in tenth-dimensional hyperspace, generating all the matter and energy in the universe, including timespace. According to Projection theory, Superstrings are conscious entities. If you disbelieve this model, then you are exploring other identity probabilities. Advantages and Disadvantages: As a multidimensional being, you approach life as an experiment. It's easy to explore new aspects of reality. Possibly, you can transcend third- dimensional fear-based programs through the force of Will of the projecting entity. A disadvantage of this model is that you may become spaced out - ungrounded. Imagined other-dimensional dramas may appear logical, side-tracking you into fearful realities. 7. ONE SOUL This model is similar to the True Self Is God model, except that it the latter believes in the individual "I." God (the Holy Spirit, or the One Soul) breathes life into everything and is the reality behind all forms. This model states you don't have an individual soul. Instead, you are a *projection of the One Soul*. When you die, you wake up - you remember - that you are the Creator. All false selves are the dream of the Dreamer Creator. The universe creates the illusion of individuality by using multidimensional filters. For instance, astrological lenses, race, gender, kingdoms, and other dimensions all create the appearance of "other." Disbelievers of this model experience the results of their identity. Advantages and Disadvantages: The One Soul model has the same advantages of The Body model. In this model, though, you believe in God and can live a miraculous life. It promotes unity consciousness. A disadvantage is that you lose the thrill of having a "soul mission." 8. DOHNO The Dohno model states you *don't know* who you are. You're "open to suggestions." This model has two planes of understanding: Higher and Lower. You're flying in the Lower Dohno Plane when you're confused about your identity - and desperate. Cruising at 33,000 feet in the Upper Dohno Plane, you might have a clue. You are, however, certain of your uncertainty. You've dropped struggle during the Quest to find Yourself. ("Struggle" is different from "effort.") You realize that the question of self is riddled with paradox. This mystical, earthen-now being (self) is a thread in the Joker's costume we call the universe. *We* are the Mystery - unfathomable, non-linear, stuck-in-the-muds. Advantages and Disadvantages: Advantages include that you can't judge others. Also, it's easy to walk through new doorways. A disadvantage in the Lower Dohno Plane is that you suffer from not knowing. In the Upper, your image may suffer: You don't commit yourself passionately enough to such an important issue. What happens if you are a disbeliever? Dohno. Conclusion Everyone, even the most unconscious, has a belief about who or what they are. The impact of this belief affects your life greatly, because your identity carries with it a complete cosmology. When you choose an identity, you accept the inherent duality that each offers: the saved vs. the damned, the enlightened vs. the unconscious, the knowing vs. the superstitious. (Note: Some IROOT:NOTians shamelessly pluck gems from various systems and - to the disdain of their detractors - wear them unabashedly in a glittering Third Eye tiara. However, in all modesty, IROOT:NOTians only show off their Cosmic Head Openers in public during solemn, official events, like going to the post office.) Unless you live in a cave (and don't have a cell phone), someone, some day, will tell you how wrong you are about your identity. If this criticism doesn't phase you, then you are in a liberated position of consciousness. This attitude reflects humility an d tolerance. What is another result of defining yourself? You'll think that everyone (including disbelievers) is subject to the consequences of *your* belief system. Regardless, we bring our humanness into whatever identity we have chosen. As Light, we are one. Evin Starbuilders .............................................................. For more information, e-mail: starbldr@gate.net. Say, "subscribe," and I'll send the most recent edition of Starbuilders periodical, "The Federation Flash." Visit us at: http://www.lightwork.dk/Starbuilders -- As Light, we are one. "We do our best, Spirit does the rest." ------------------------------------- Evin Home page: http://www.lightwork.dk/Starbuilders Starbuilders Books; tapes; free stuff; items not available elsewhere --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E5S00000 Date: 05/19/97 From: CHRIS LEWIS Time: 01:12pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: cmsg cancel <5lpc16$rk2$3937@news.intern13:12:0005/19/97 From: "Chris Lewis" Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Original Date: 19 May 1997 12:37:07 GMT WRITER spam cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca Original Subject: Seeking-Publication? Total spams this type to date: 8698 Total this spam type for this user to date: 760 --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E5S00001 Date: 05/19/97 From: OTTO J. 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