--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E5K00024 Date: 05/14/97 From: MARIAN PUDEK Time: 10:05pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Conversation with an Angel. (Part-2), Ka22:05:0005/14/97 From: "Marian Pudek" Newsgroups: alt.paranormal,alt.paranormal.channeling,alt.paranet.psi Organization: Cyberion Networking Corp. Original Date: Tue, 13 May 97 21:08:00 +0200 Original Date: Sun, 11 May 97 16:01:00 +0200 Original Date: Fri, 09 May 97 17:12:00 +0200 Original Date: Wed, 07 May 97 20:48:00 +0200 Original Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 22:41:56 GMT CONVERSATION WITH AN ANGEL. Karen Brown, (part-2) (march 21-26/97) March 21,97. Jazdula and my other angels have you any messages for me today? Love thyself now more than ever. You must allow creativity a chance to express itself through you and have no fear attached to this. Physical exercise is called for, a walk in nature will help to release that which must leave you. These feelings of being too idle now should be allowed full rein. By having faith in the universe you will be drawn to your place within society. Guilt and fear have no place to reside inside of you. There is no room because confidence and self love fill up this space. Know yourself fully. Question yourself constantly to loosen this debris. Bare your soul to the ego and you will be walking in the light of truth. March 23,97 Angels please be with Derek today and help him to see that there are many alternatives to his desperation. I am really worried about him. He is in a real state of depression and he needs you. Also tell me how I can best help him now. I am lighting this candle so he can find his way back and he can fulfill his purpose. His heart is heavy with feelings of inadequacy and what you need to do is fill his heart with love now. You must let him know you accept him exactly the way he is unconditionally. This is very important. Encourage him by allowing him to be in a bad mood. In fact leave him completely alone if necessary. Let him do everything, even allow him to kiss you before you go to him for a kiss. When he is totally oblivious to your presence then say to him," I am going out for a walk, do you want to come?" He will say no. Then you must go alone. After a few days he will join you. Be patient and kind, not cold toward him. He does not know that he is greater than he is but in time he will come to this realization. He is completely immersed in his physicalness and believes that he is his body. This is his truth. Therefore what he seeks so desperately is what eludes him the most. He is totally in hate with himself now. He is feeling inadequate in all areas of his life. His ego has full play now and it is going to be very hard for you to compete with this side of himself. You must keep telling him how much you adore him but then go and detach yourself from him at that moment. Do not cling to him, he will see things from a different perspective. This is what is needed now, a different perspective. We, the angels will be by his side now and help him to realize his full potential. This job really is not where he should be but in time we will help him to realize this from a different perspective. Love him because he needs you, he needs to know you are the one solid thing in his desperation now. Give out now and you will receive more. March 23,97 Angels, I tried studying the way you told me and I am amazed that this works so much easier. Thank you for your help with this and also for helping Derek. When he came home from his parents house today he was in a much better mood. I hope I did the right thing because I tried to do what you told me to do. I also saw some of the eclipse tonight and later I looked at the moon and it was beautiful and I also saw other shadows attached to it. What happened with Cory today? My friend what you saw tonight with the moon has to do with Hale-Bopp. These apparitions you saw are the reflections from the companion to Hale Bopp. The sky was perfectly clear as well and you will see many other interesting sights if you view it for the next 3 days. Derek was able to see a glimpse of his future today through different eyes. He is unable to put this into words, but with patience and understanding from you he will be given illuminating insights each day. This will help him through the rough patch he will have to go through for a short time. Let him work this out himself and one day he will relate this story to you. Then you can show him these messages you are being given tonight. His mind is too cluttered with debris at this time for him to comprehend any of this. Your studies are progressing much better. We see this and we are happy this form of study is helpful to you. Keep it up. We know you can get through this part that you dislike so much. Cory needed your ear today and you did a good deed for a friend. Sometimes just being able to tell someone how you feel is enough. She did the right thing in quitting her job but she should also keep this news from her parents as they will only make her feel as though she is a failure. She is going through many dramatic changes at this point in her life so things will be a little rocky for a time. She is opening up more and more and your insight seems to give her that extra push to acquire more knowledge. She will be fine. Tomorrow is another day so upon retiring tonight tell your conscious mind to remember your dream and you will receive another message for tomorrow. Pleasant dreams. March 24,97, Jazdula I didn't remember my dream. Possibly during the day you can throw some clues in for me. I'm off to fax my resume out to another prospective job. Do I have a chance? I know board said in 2 weeks I would have to make up my mind. So on wed. It will be 2 weeks. My well spring card shows a picture of a wine bottle and 3 glasses, could you explain? Do you think this job relies on luck? If so then good luck. If not then what is the force behind it? Yes, I am questioning you because I want to see how much you have learned thus far. Whether you get this job or not will depend on how much energy you have put into acquiring it. What responses do you receive from you body as you plan this approach? Do you feel relaxed or tense? There is usually a pretty noticeable feeling and you will get a great clue from this. The tightening you are feeling in the pit of your stomach now could this not be a clue? I would say this emotion is fear. Remember now fear is an ego based emotion, not an intuitive one. This picture on your card shows in your mind a celebration of some kind. In this picture are 3 glasses, symbolically this means your 3 minds are working together now. There is one glass to the left and 2 to the right of the wine bottle. You must integrate the one by itself and your physical self is what stands between you ,represented by the wine bottle. You are progressing slowly and this is good for you so keep on with your present form of thought and then you can conquer these material and physical obstacles by using more right brain tactics. The left brain needs to dominate much less in your life now. Work on this integration more. Throughout the day remember to view your mental screen and I will help you to remember your dream. These may be flashes of pictures you will receive, so be especially aware of these. I will also be at the side of your father in law today to help him to recover from his operation. Send him love and healing energy throughout the day. May the force be with you in the midst of your day. March 25,97 Jazdula is this my said lucky day? Will my ship really come in as the cards indicated? What needs repair as also indicated by the well spring card? What synchronistic events are lurking around the corner today? Ask yourself what a light being is right now. Then answer yourself. My reply was;" a light being is pure light and energy. It is the opposite of darkness. It lights our path. It gives out strength and energy to all with whom it contacts. It is pure love. It is of a divine nature. It eases out sorrow. It is pure health and is the strongest force. It is pure intention and desire. It is who I am." Well Jaz how did I do? I am very impressed. Now if you can remember this throughout your day you will be walking in the light. This one day of remembering will then en turn into days, then weeks, then months. Ultimately into years and of course, beyond the physical. By seeing yourself in this way you will never encounter any obstacle because you will know that there really are none, only the ones you , your extension of yourself, put there. You will then be immersed totally in the pure joy of living which is life itself. You are not really as far away from this state of being as you imagine yourself to be my dear. I watch you and I see how you at times have reflections of this but because you are so immersed in your physical, you do not allow yourself more of these experiences. This time you have had to be by yourself is the best thing you have done. Last year you were not ready to allow this to unfold, but now you are. The repair is on yourself. The events are already in motion, will you be aware of them? Remember the waking dream symbols today and raise those feelers out of your head. Enjoy this brand new day. March 26, 97 Jazdula what is the missing key to my understanding of my situation? Those old fears are back now about not being able to get a job as simple as a house cleaner. Have they even considered me for this job yet? Who possessed me last night and the night before when I couldn't stop laughing? You must not despair my dear one for the universe works within its own time and space. It does not work within your time frame. All the elements are correctly aligned for your physical counterparts to manifest upon the planet. Do not fear your thoughts at this time, follow them to their source and this missing key will be revealed to you. This company has many resumes to go over but the fact that you sent your cover letter along with your resume, is a definite asset for you. You must draw your own inner strength from a deeper source and as the saying goes, "hang in there." And you will be rewarded in many ways. The laughter you experienced was so needed and to you it seemed border on the edge of insanity. In reality this insane state is the total opposite of your sane state. The state where you feel you must conduct yourself in a serious so called adult manner, always keeping your guard up. This laughter allows you to penetrate the realm of the other world, the world beyond limitation and fear. Keep on laughing and we will keep on tickling you to do so. Tonight at your board session we will be there with you all and we delight in this. Your guides are many and we enjoy their company and also sitting in among your energy circle. The e t s are delightful beings and they are also manifesting in full force upon your planet. Jaz I just received a thought, could these messages really be a book in the making? This flash my dear is inspiration and what do you think? It sounds like it could be a book in the making and you should just go with the flow and see where it leads you. Your message from me today is have faith in your own power which is the only power and this powers source is the universal total source. Posted by: Marian With Love and Peace Marian pudmar@imag.net --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E5K00025 Date: 05/15/97 From: AVALON412 Time: 12:30pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: re: JENNIFER AVALON***TIM From: "Avalon412" Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Original Date: 15 May 1997 10:24:11 GMT Dear Eagle In The Sky, Your words are beautifully spoken. Thank you for contacting me. Love, Jennifer Avalon E-Mail: Avalon412@aol.com http://www.AviatorRecords.com --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E5K00026 Date: 05/15/97 From: CARLOS A. CUBILLOS Time: 12:30pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Secret Agreement With Aliens All Ove12:30:0005/15/97 Reply-to: carlosc@inacap.cl From: "Carlos A. Cubillos" Newsgroups: lt.alien.visitors,alt.paranet.ufo,talk.religion.newage,alt.apocal pse,alt.consciousness,alt.conspiracy,alt.fan.art-bell,alt.paranet abduct,alt.paranet.paranormal,alt.paranet.skeptic,alt.paranormal. Organization: Mundo-Internet CTC Mundo Original Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 09:59:54 -0400 ^GaMBiT^ wrote: > = > Eileen Lakes wrote: > = > >> > > Coul u explain me, why aliens, that travel over lightyears and are > therefore able to destroy the earth with a blink of an eye should abduc= t > any housewifes to make any physiological tests with them ? Why don=B4t > they simply beam up one book about medicine and read it by themselves. > And if they have the technology to travel this huge distances, why don=B4= t > they have the technology to scan humans from the distance. The strange > thing is, that mostly housewifes a "abducted". And they can only > remember this, when they are set under hypnosis. If i want to profile > myself in the public, this is the right way to do that. > I=B4ve often heared, that they implanted some tiny technological device= s > into their bodys. . . > So why does nobody examine those alien artifacts ?? This would be a rea= l > evidence. But nothing like that happens. > = > >> > > = > We don=B4t have any real evidence for the existing of those "greys". So= > why can u say that they are bad ?? > Wow...and timetravel...As far as i know...only travel into the future > would be possible, but therfore u need to travel at light speed. And > traveling at lightspeed is not possible cause it would take infinite > energy. Read more about einsteins theories. And u=B4ll see, that i=B4m > right. Traveling into the past is !NOT! possible. !!!!!!!!!!!!! Are you sure about it?? Read the theory of unified field of Einstein-Rossen!!! you read more about this theories!! = > I heared of those experients on mindcontrol, that where made by the > russians with low frequenzy devices. But I also heared that they gave > this misinformtion only cause they wanted to shock the Intelligence of > the US spionage. That=B4s, the whole truth about it . If anyone know h= ow > mindcontrol is made with frequencies, that alter the human behavior, > please message me :)) The misinformation is made by your government, using the policy "deny everything". Your government use mind control to "blind" the people. If you can't believe it, then, you cooperate with this dark government and the dark agenda. Wake up!! Magneto. --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E5L00000 Date: 05/10/97 From: SCOTT FARRELL Time: 10:33pm \/To: KEVIN GIBSON (Read 0 times) Subj: The Channel is Dry Hi Kevin Hows things? Sorry for the late reply! KG> When I think of "channeling," I think of someone going into a KG> trance-like state and speaking, usually in a voice different in KG> tone from their normal voice. People who channel claim to be In regards to the paranormal, I take it meditation is simply used to 'quiet the mind' - to allow the full use of any phychic abilities and to allow you to better listen for paranormal activity? KG> communicating a message from a spirit or other entity, usually KG> in the words of that being. I don't channel in that sense. KG> I don't go into a trance-like state. I think of myself as a KG> conduit for information and I'll leave my explanation at that. :-) So basically your walking along (or reading or whatever) and you get a connection? regs scott ... Reality's a crutch for those who can't do science fiction ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 --- EzyQwk V1.10 01fa00de * Origin: Blue Marlin BBS +61-(0)47-76-1211 (3:713/319) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E5L00001 Date: 05/11/97 From: SCOTT FARRELL Time: 12:55pm \/To: CHRISTINA FIELDS (Read 0 times) Subj: Lost mail Hi Christina I sent a netmail reply to your mail, regarding meditation and such (can't remember exactly what we were talking about) - but aparently it got lost )-:. Ah yes - I remember, you were telling me that you were self taught (I was asking for info/books on how to start channelling etc). Anyway, I hope your still lurking (and that I remembered your name correctly!) - with a little luck I should hear from you shortly! (-: regs scott ... A little rebellion now and then is a good thing ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 --- EzyQwk V1.10 01fa00de * Origin: Blue Marlin BBS +61-(0)47-76-1211 (3:713/319) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E5L00002 Date: 05/15/97 From: JAL KAE Time: 09:37pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: The Self Shell Game From: "Jal Kae" Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Organization: CyberGate, Inc. Original Date: 15 May 1997 11:46:06 -0400 The True-Self Shell Game What does the term "true self" mean? For most, it means one's essence. Currently, there exist at least eight models describing the true self. These models are The Individual Soul, The Body, Humanity +, An Illusion, God, A Projection, One Soul, and Dohno. Models that describe the true self are useful. They offer a framework to help you become a better person in some way. A disadvantage is that they can trick you into thinking that you're "special." Most define the "false self" - the nemesis of the true self - as either the ego or the physical body. Models are *pictures* of reality. However, something happens when you believe in them. They become real - to you. (Believing that your picture is real and that all others are false is normal. This quirk is a natural but peculiar function of the human mind.) Although no models are flawless, True Believers will try to convince you otherwise about theirs. People usually label "false doctrines" (beliefs other than their own) as anything from "superstition" to "works of the devil." Ironically, one day you may "wake up" and "see the Truth." Your old model, the one that you've relied on, suddenly looks like antiquated false doctrine. What other advantages and disadvantages do these models offer? Are there consequences for disbelief? What follows are brief sketches of these systems. 1. THE INDIVIDUAL SOUL In many Eastern and Western religions, one's supreme identity is the *soul*. Most Western religions believe that God watches the individual's behavior. After you die, He either eternally rewards or punishes you. If you follow your religion's moral codes, you (as soul) go to Heaven. Most Eastern religions believe that you (as soul) must become perfect, balance all of its karma, and become detached from everything. You must continue to reincarnate until you complete these tasks and become enlightened. Advantages and Disadvantages: Religions can coerce individual souls to behave morally. After all, who wants to burn in hell forever or to reincarnate repeatedly into miserable lives? Religions can produce strong, stable community ties. They provide answers to humanity's key questions, fulfilling a human psychological need. (Who am I? What am I doing here? Can I go now?) When you believe in a soul, you assume trans-Herculean tasks. For example, it's not actually possible to balance your karma. Also, the idea of the individual soul conveniently reflects the fears and desires of the ego. 2. THE BODY This is the atheistic model. The true self is the human body. This system aligns itself with Earth's natural rhythms: Things die, new ones are born. It's a natural process, like the seasons, and apparently works without God or a soul. When you die, your true self dies. If you are a disbeliever, some believers say that you will discover the (atheistic) truth, but too late. Advantages and Disadvantages: By believing "this is it," you take responsibility for your actions. The devil didn't make you do it. It frees you from the tyrannies of unbalanced moral commands. ("God says to kill the infidel.") The possibility of suffering in future lives or going to hell doesn't stress you. A disadvantage is that you can't live a miraculous life. Also, in a time of need, you have no higher force with whom to find comfort. Although atheists see those who rely on God to be weak, others see this relation- ship as a blessing. 3. HUMANITY + At the first level of this model, your true self is the human race. You are a cell in the Body Human. Like a living hologram, you embody the potential of all human thought, emotion, fear, suffering, joy, hope, and aspiration. The idea that you are separate from the rest of humanity is the false self. As Human, you accept the physical divisions of gender and sub-race and the man-made divisions of nationality and creed. You are able, however, to transcend the polarized qualities inherent in them. You are the drive to survive and preserve the species, to reproduce, and to take root in as many places possible. This model is expandable. At the second level, you are Earth's *Human Project*. (The *Human Project* is one of Earth's many.) Go up another level and you become a part of Sol's *Planetary Project*. Go up a step further, and you're part of the Milky Way's *Galactic Project*. You can take this all the way to the All-That-Is's *Creation of Everything Project*. Advantages and Disadvantages: This model allows you to accept your existential condition and grow from there. Also, it builds compassion. You treat others with respect. You do this not because you're afraid of hell or bad karma and not because your trying to collect good karma or even to please God. The reason is, you want to do it. Problems develop when you identify with the *Creation of Everything Project* before psychologically coming to terms with your Humanity. This makes you "top heavy" and out of balance. 4. AN ILLUSION In the world of science, one of the Next Big Things is neuroscience. The technicians and theoreticians in this field are tackling the question of self using the tools of science. They assume the individual self is an hallucination. There is no true or false self. Somehow, neurons firing away in the brain create this illusion. "You" are a relationship of electrical impulses. You just *think* that you are someone! Once the brain dies, the illusion ceases. Neuroscience is in its infancy, and most of its views are highly speculative. If you are a disbeliever, some believers may view you as superstitious, afraid to face reality. Advantages and Disadvantages: One advantage of this belief is that you realize that *everyone* is transparent. Everyone is no one. Reality loosens up, at least in your mind. Science may prove the Hindu doctrine that the self is a part of Maya (illusion). Disadvantages include that you can't live a miraculous life. Believing that individuals are electrical impulses can inhibit the growth of compassion, a much needed human sentiment. 5. GOD You can interpret this model in two ways. One is that the believer is "God in person." The false self doesn't exist. The other is that the true self is God. In this, the false self exists. Disbelievers won't realize their divine potential. Advantages: Believing that the false self is God promotes confidence. You must take responsibility for your actions. Believing that the true self is God promotes unity consciousness. Disadvantages: A few disadvantages exist with the "God in Person" model. You have vast ego-inflating potential. It also can shatter your confidence when you discover that you aren't omnipotent. Additionally, you leave little room for the universe to surprise you; as God, you should know everything. As an individual God, you might not live a miraculous life! A disadvantage of the true self being God is that the individual "I" can subtly lurk in your unconscious. This promotes separation. 6. A PROJECTION Is it possible that the true self is an other-dimensional being, projecting its consciousness into the human body? You've heard about channeling; maybe you even channel. Channeling happens when an other-dimensional entity projects its consciousness into a human body. A walk-in happens the same way. When you channel, though, the false self doesn't leave the body. It takes a rear seat to the visiting entity. During a walk-in event, the visiting consciousness takes over the body completely. (In the old days, when a malevolent entity would take over a body, they'd call it a *possession*.) The Projection model says that some time between conception and birth the other-dimensional consciousness enters the body. It remains throughout the life of the individual. Evolution happens as the visiting consciousness projects its higher-dimensional energy fields and insights into the human host. When the body dies, the other-dimensional consciousness withdraws from the body. It awakens from its human dream. The projecting consciousness can be any entity who can project its mind into forms. Planetary consciousnesses are famous for this. Most of humanity is a projection of Earth's consciousness. Stellar entities can do this as well (producing "star" people). S eventh-dimensional entities explore and collect experience in this way. One of these beings can project its consciousness into millions of life forms simultaneously throughout the universe. Metaphysically, this model correlates to the Superstring theory of science. Superstring is an extremely small (and theoretical) particle posited by physics. These strings wriggle in tenth-dimensional hyperspace, generating all the matter and energy in the universe, including timespace. According to Projection theory, Superstrings are conscious entities. If you disbelieve this model, then you are exploring other identity probabilities. Advantages and Disadvantages: As a multidimensional being, you approach life as an experiment. It's easy to explore new aspects of reality. Possibly, you can transcend third- dimensional fear-based programs through the force of Will of the projecting entity. A disadvantage of this model is that you may become spaced out - ungrounded. Imagined other-dimensional dramas may appear logical, side-tracking you into fearful realities. 7. ONE SOUL This model is similar to the True Self Is God model, except that it the latter believes in the individual "I." God (the Holy Spirit, or the One Soul) breathes life into everything and is the reality behind all forms. This model states you don't have an individual soul. Instead, you are a *projection of the One Soul*. When you die, you wake up - you remember - that you are the Creator. All false selves are the dream of the Dreamer Creator. The universe creates the illusion of individuality by using multidimensional filters. For instance, astrological lenses, race, gender, kingdoms, and other dimensions all create the appearance of "other." Disbelievers of this model experience the results of their identity. Advantages and Disadvantages: The One Soul model has the same advantages of The Body model. In this model, though, you believe in God and can live a miraculous life. It promotes unity consciousness. A disadvantage is that you lose the thrill of having a "soul mission." 8. DOHNO The Dohno model states you *don't know* who you are. You're "open to suggestions." This model has two planes of understanding: Higher and Lower. You're flying in the Lower Dohno Plane when you're confused about your identity - and desperate. Cruising at 33,000 feet in the Upper Dohno Plane, you might have a clue. You are, however, certain of your uncertainty. You've dropped struggle during the Quest to find Yourself. ("Struggle" is different from "effort.") You realize that the question of self is riddled with paradox. This mystical, earthen-now being (self) is a thread in the Joker's costume we call the universe. *We* are the Mystery - unfathomable, non-linear, stuck-in-the-muds. Advantages and Disadvantages: Advantages include that you can't judge others. Also, it's easy to walk through new doorways. A disadvantage in the Lower Dohno Plane is that you suffer from not knowing. In the Upper, your image may suffer: You don't commit yourself passionately enough to such an important issue. What happens if you are a disbeliever? Dohno. Conclusion Everyone, even the most unconscious, has a belief about who or what they are. The impact of this belief affects your life greatly, because your identity carries with it a complete cosmology. When you choose an identity, you accept the inherent duality that each offers: the saved vs. the damned, the enlightened vs. the unconscious, the knowing vs. the superstitious. (Note: Some IROOT:NOTians shamelessly pluck gems from various systems and - to the disdain of their detractors - wear them unabashedly in a glittering Third Eye tiara. However, in all modesty, IROOT:NOTians only show off their Cosmic Head Openers in public during solemn, official events, like going to the post office.) Unless you live in a cave (and don't have a cell phone), someone, some day, will tell you how wrong you are about your identity. If this criticism doesn't phase you, then you are in a liberated position of consciousness. This attitude reflects humility an d tolerance. What is another result of defining yourself? You'll think that everyone (including disbelievers) is subject to the consequences of *your* belief system. Regardless, we bring our humanness into whatever identity we have chosen. As Light, we are one. Evin Starbuilders .............................................................. For more information, e-mail: starbldr@gate.net. Say, "subscribe," and I'll send the most recent edition of Starbuilders periodical, "The Federation Flash." Visit us at: http://www.lightwork.dk/Starbuilders -- As Light, we are one. 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ACT NOW AND BE > HAPPY FOREVER MORE! > > http://users.why.net/araltd/psychic/ > > (817) 419-7777 > Call today, and have a Wonderful tomorrow! > > * THERE IS NO PER MINUTE CHARGE- > THIS IS A NORMAL LONG DISTANCE CALL! * Please provide verifiable evidence of any times that she actually obtained positive results in any of the following examples: > She can change your Luck! > Tells Past, Present and Future!!! > Grants Wishes! > Reunites Lost Lovers! > GIVES YOU GOOD LUCK! > Improves your life! in all area's! > Helps Ease Grief, and saddness. > Helps with substance abuse and chemical dependencies! > HELPS IN ALL PROBLEMS! Proof would include names of the people she has done these things for, and proof that the problems she claims to have solved actually existed in the first place. I am particularly interested in proof that she can help with substance abuse, and grant wishes. These two claims seem to be the only ones that could be verified. Your attention to this request for information is greatly appreciated. Darwyn -Wizard! --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E5L00004 Date: 05/15/97 From: "DANIEL WILSON" Time: 09:37pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Channeling From: ""Daniel Wilson"" Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Organization: Compulink Information eXchange Original Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 17:32:07 GMT Mikey said: > For the last several years, I have been under attack from some > kind of > spiritual force. It is definitely spirits, attacking, cause I am > able > to see them, at times, doing their deeds. Too, if I listen very > carefully, or try to channel, I get these hateful awful nasty > messages, > that they are enjoying making my life myserable. What you're experiencing is a mild form of schizophrenia somewhat complicated by addressing it from a spiritualist standpoint. Most people have these same negative impulses within them but don't experience them consciously as coherent entities with a voice, where schizophrenics do. To some degree the form of these voices will follow your own adherence to the idea of them being spirits. This is traditionally a difficult standpoint from which to escape or suppress them, since you have somehow to summon up a much larger positive or loving entity which can be relied upon to deal with them, and most people possess sufficient suppressed self-blame not to be able to achieve this on their own. One way that at least is worth trying is a spiritual healing circle. Even if this doesn't help to a great degree (and it might) you will then have people to support and help you. If you draw a line in the (imaginary) sand and say: spirit beliefs are on that side, own self-hatreds are on this side, and then mentally step back one, you will then have a problem that is entirely contained within you and can be dealt with as something which is finite in scope and therefore amenable to being solved. There will be remedies and therapies that will carve away great lumps of your problem, but a big internal propaganda campaign will be run within you to try and convince you that nothing has changed. If you ignore this and press on, eventually you will, with help, be able to generate enough self-love for the negativities to subside. I don't know a quick way of doing it other than trying plenty of healers and hitting one with the right touch, but it can be done. Dan Wilson --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E5L00005 Date: 05/15/97 From: ~V~ Time: 09:37pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Turn toThe Bliss Channel From: "~V~" Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Organization: I-2000 Inc., Internet Services Original Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 19:40:52 GMT have found, that for Bliss, one can meditate, and Pray, like this, in a comfortable chair, or any position at all, which, can be maintained, for hours, and hours... And, one prays to the Great Spirits, then, contemplates, a loved one, in embrace, like the tantric statues, of Hindus, the Bliss, will shoot up, and up, inside the body, to the mind, and, or, the spine, in a location, that's divine, so refined, and like an ocean of waves, and waves, rolling out to sea. but, it is good to love someone, in your heart, in your heart, when you start, and love it all, all the ways up to God, doing contemplative prayer, in care of, the Great Spirit... Now, if you hold that person, of your dreams, in your loving arms, infecting them with Bliss, and, during,this, while loving, loving, loving, loving them, while loving the Great Spirits, whirling up,up, up and up, in Spirals of Love, above the clouds, Towards the Sun ,on Eagle Wings of God, in God, in God, in God, It will bring the Green Gold up, as far, far, far, as you can, Imagine, and Dream, sometimes, farther, than you planned, into the Star of Infinity. ~V~ --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1)