--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E3L00011 Date: 03/10/97 From: MARTHA NONE Time: 06:50am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: read and think From: "Martha None" Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Organization: Connection Bastad Original Date: Sun, 09 Mar 1997 20:58:01 -0800 This might appear to be a very strange posting. In fact I don't care. What I'm about to tell you is not by means of my own will, but because I have to. Lets call the man I worked with "X". I work as a regression teraphist in mid Sweden. Last week a friend of mine asked me to perform a regression session on one of his friends, X. During the regression, (X was hypnotized), strange things started to surface. To make a long story short, it turned out as if this man was an incarnation of A Crowley. I asked a lot of questions during the session, and X could tell a lot about he's life as mr C. I myself has got some knowledge about mr C (not that much though), and as far as I can tell this *could* be right. I'm not yet at liberty to tell you his name, he has no wish whatsoever to be recognized by the public, he has no wish to talk about this in any aspect, and when he heard what he had been saying during the regression, he wished that "this had never happened". The reason for me going out with this is that during the session mr C "spoke" to me through this man, and told me to "announce" his revival "in the new, wide media". (the net?) I had a long discussion with X about this, and he said that he didn't believe that this had really happened. One thing that talks against this thought of his, is that he in his youth had been very interested in magic, and that he from age 4 have had nightly dreams about a man resembling the late mr C. (he had no knowledge about how mr C looked when alive, but his dreams corrensponded to mr C:s appearence). During the session, "he" told me that "it was ment to be", he was going "to be incarnated", and that it "would take 45 yrs from X's birth until the facts should be revealed to the waiting world". In fact, X's 45th birthday is coming up real soon. Further more he said that "people are waiting for him to fulfill the promises he gave before his death. To conquer death, and to prove that his mission as tought, was the only truth". Once again, X has no wish whatsoever for this to be true. He lives as a respectable man in a small community, and he can't imagine to turn his life over for this. Then again, if there is any truth behind these statements and in the regression, what will happen on the "midsummers day of the millennium change, when the global mind of "old mr C" will penetrate X's own mind and restore all the knowledge"?. All in his own(?) words... You may detect that I'm a bit ironic in my way of writing, but I'm not rude. I just don't want this to be true, neither does X. The only reason for me going out with this, is the direct "order" through X's mind/voice during the session. I have read these newsgroups for a while now, and I know the kind of response a message like this can get. Rude and not nice. In fact I don't care, I have done what I was ordered to do, and the main reason for that is "to let his followers know that he has succeded in his aim for revival, and to gather them who wants to follow into the new era". Don't ask me what's going to happen next. Maybe nothing, maybe something, I honestly don't know. All I know is that my previous sessions generally has been successfull. *If* this man, X, really is an incarnation of mr C, then I guess we'll hear more about it soon. If not, no harm done. I will NOT give you my real name, I have no further wish to participate in this matter. I thank you for listening, and I will read any comments on the Usenet concerning this. Maybe even answer a question or two related to what *I* have written, but not to the matter as such. I will NOT let this matter harm my practice as a therapeute, I think you'll understand that. Whether you are taking this seriously or not, I thank you for your patience, and ask you to forgive my shortcomings in the English language. /Martha --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E3L00012 Date: 03/11/97 From: CWW Time: 05:56am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Channeling about Alien Visitors (pa05:56:0003/11/97 From: "CWW" Newsgroups: lt.alien,alt.alien.visitors,alt.paranet.paranormal,alt.paranet.uf o,alt.paranormal,alt.paranormal.channeling Organization: Southwestern Bell Internet Services Original Date: 10 Mar 1997 17:49:55 GMT Marian Pudek wrote in article <331f5536.8275874@news.imag.net>... > VISITITORS FROM FIVE PLANETS > > I/we like to share with you a message that we received in january > from a group of spirit guides that call themselves The Flowing > Waters. This group we believe are 8th dimension spirit guides. I have a question...what is the 8th dimension? does it have a name, and btw how many other dimensions are there..i dont have a map...help me out here. --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E3L00013 Date: 03/11/97 From: JAL KAE Time: 05:56am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: The End From: "Jal Kae" Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Organization: CyberGate, Inc. Original Date: 10 Mar 1997 17:07:38 -0500 The End The way that you perceive the End of the World (or of the Universe) reveals something about how you live. It will subtly influence your present. Many End Times stories are floating around the mental plane like tall, gray-bottomed clouds. We have the Ascension, the Second Coming, the Big Crunch, the Big Chill, and other creative Tales of the Unknown. Completion Most of these stories assume that the universe must *complete some sort of cycle*. We start with the Big Bang (or whatever version of creation you prefer) and try to predict the End using the logic inherent in that particular story. Completion, however, may be something that humans invented. For instance, is a life complete when one dies? Some say Yes, others say No. Does a year end on December 31, or on the day before the Spring Equinox or Yom Kippur? These divisions are man-made. If we hear the musical scale "Do-Re-Me-Fa-So-La-Ti . . .," we *need* to hear the complete octave. Where's the "Do"? We have this compulsion, because completion signifies order, and order makes direction - the "what's next?" - more clear (like a Twelve Step Plan). The First Miraculodynamic Axiom, however, states something different: "There is nowhere to go and nothing to do, but we go there and do it anyway." Direction springs spontaneously from the Eternal Now, from either order *or* chaos. The axiom further implies that HERE is our destination, the end of all direction. *Completion already IS*; we just *think* that it's something else. (When feeling miserable, no one wants to hear "completion IS.") Alternative Stories For theists, Creation was an act of divine intervention. No one can guess why God chose that particular moment to do the deed. Like the Beginning, the End could be an act of divine intervention, as well. What about this: One day, the Creator yawns. He looks at the universe, scratches His metascalp and says, "Well, that's enough." Poof! Without notice, the universe abruptly ends. No more no more, just like that. The idea of the universe "just ending" is intriguing. You must focus your attention on the moment instead of on some far off time that doesn't affect you existentially. The universe is like a far flung dream; we are its living fabric. You never know, however, when the dreamer will awaken. ........................................................... For more information, e-mail: starbldr@gate.net. Say, "subscribe," and I'll send the most recent edition of Starbuilders periodical, "The Federation Flash." Visit us at: http://www.lightwork.dk/Starbuilders -- As Light, we are one. "We do our best, Spirit does the rest." ------------------------------------- Evin Home page: http://www.lightwork.dk/Starbuilders Starbuilders Books; tapes; free stuff; items not available elsewhere --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E3L00014 Date: 03/11/97 From: RUY Time: 05:56am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Mind Power program development - need id05:56:0003/11/97 From: "Ruy" Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Organization: RDD Original Date: 11 Mar 1997 00:36:29 GMT Hello! I'm trying to develop a program to increase the mind power of an average person! If you've got any information about mind power, methods of developing it or any other usefull stuff for this kind of project please send it to me. I already got something about Fast-Counting (ability to count a large number of objects just by taking a glance) and other simple stuff, but I would apreciate your help. Thank you! Ruy nop60177@mail.telepac.pt --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E3L00015 Date: 03/11/97 From: RECOVERCOM Time: 05:56am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: ATTENTION AUTHORS From: "RecoverCom" Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Original Date: 11 Mar 1997 01:01:12 GMT ATTENTION AUTHORS Recovery Communications, Inc., publisher of the million-copy best selling book "GETTING THEM SOBER", is searching for authors who are either recognized authorities in their fields, clergy persons, or who have professional credentials. We are seeking to publish more books in these areas: mind-body healing; unique ways to live frugally; wisdom and relationships; creating simple yet joyful lifestyles. No E-mail Please. Fax replies to (410) 243-8558, or write: Recovery P.O. Box 19910 Baltimore, Maryland 21211 U.S.A. --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E3L00016 Date: 03/11/97 From: JAMES MERTE Time: 05:33am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Channeling NG has died From: "James Merte" Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Organization: ICNET... Your Link To The Internet... +1.313.998.0090 Original Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 19:19:09 -0500 I appreciate the efforts of a few to revive this NG but alas it didn't work out. I declare it is dead. I wonder if NGs have an afterlife? What a horrible thought that the NG will suffer a hideous eternity as a repository for all the whole wheat spam and unrelated garbage that shows up in its bowels. Thanks to those who made an effort. So long.... --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E3L00017 Date: 03/11/97 From: BILL Time: 05:33am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Underground ET cities//Must Earth Su05:33:0003/11/97 From: "Bill" Newsgroups: lt.paranet.ufo,alt.alien.visitors,talk.religion.newage,alt.apocal pse,alt.bible.prophecy,alt.prophecies.nostradamus,alt.paranormal. channeling,alt.legal Original Date: 11 Mar 1997 13:52:31 GMT >Remember Stanley Kubricks epic film called, "Dr. Strangelove" >where near the end of the flick Gen. Turgensen is arguing with the President >about "mine shaft gaps." Well, that was all true. Peter sellers would be shocked. >Also, various extraterrestrials have underground cities throughout >the World, most located under the oceans such as the one near the >Bermuda Triangle. That is why that area is OFF LIMITS to planes. Their is no 'off limits' area in the triangle. you are full of shit. >Also, there are alien/human bases in different locales, such as Puerto Rico >and Area-51 in Nevada. If you interview people around those hot-spots >you will get an ear-full of what is really going on. It is not a >pretty picture. The Puerto Rican peoples are for the most part very superstitious. They believe in devils and demons and things that go bump in the night. Hardly a glowing credibility report. >Underground cities are no joke; and they are very expensive to operate, >at least on the human side. Almost all are on the "black-budget" >operating costs; which means that the Pentagon's/Intel. Agencies >drugs and weapons sales goes to fund these. Or so say you. The same information is available in either Marvel comics or the "X-files". >That, my friend, is the biggest cover-up of them all. >How many of our Generals have been implanted by ETs. or by Klinton! >Until then, we must assume that ETs have total control over >this Planet Earth. Will we surrender our sovereignty to these >bug-eyed, praying-mantis types or will the Earth people fight >back as Pres. Ronnie Raygun demanded at the United Nations????????? I will take a bet here and say you saw "Independence day" at the movies, didn't you? "bug-eyes praying mantis types"?? President Reagan NEVER declared war on "Aliens from outer space" you bufoon. You need to re-fill your schizo medicines. >Who will stand with the rest of the human-race to declare our >real independence against certain ET races! Will you??? >Dr. Richard X. Frager I would be willing to beleive that you are no 'DR.' but a ne'er do well somebody wanna be. Go back and watch some more television doc; it clearly is doing you SO much good. Bill --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E3L00018 Date: 03/11/97 From: JAL KAE Time: 09:03pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Unconditional Salvation From: "Jal Kae" Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Organization: CyberGate, Inc. Original Date: 11 Mar 1997 14:52:17 -0500 Unconditional Salvation In our book, "The Ascension of the Planetary Consciousness,*" we described how Earth's ascension will be unique. This event will mark *the first unconditional ascension in the history of the universe*. Unconditional salvation is a downscaled, individual version of the Unconditional Ascension. It's based on the IROOT:NOTian* belief that we are "Pre-Saved." What We Have Now Our culture offers us three broad categories of salvation. The first category is religious. In the West, they say that if you follow God's rules and believe in the True Prophet, then you are saved. The insur- mountable drawback is that no one agrees on the rules or even who the True Prophet is. In the East, they offer reincarnation as the slow road to salvation. If you can "get it right," then you've saved yourself; you won't have to be born again. The second category is scientific. Most scientists don't believe in salvation, because they tend to be atheists. Some scientists, though, believe that humanity might one day travel through an interdimensional wormhole and arrive in another universe. Humanity will escape the end of our universe by moving to a new one. (It's all about survival.) The third category is political. The Communists see salvation as surrender to the state. Shift Neither Western religions, Eastern politics, nor accurate but dry science satisfied the new crop of Lightworkers who were budding like dandelions in spring. They eagerly embraced the more colorful - and some say, more reasonable - stories of Eastern religion and philosophy. By doing so, however, these seekers assumed different burdens. They must now live countless earth lives. They must juggle a karmic debt system that's even more impossible to balance than the national budget. Another Possibility In contrast to the above categories (and to the Futilitarian's "What's the Use" philosophy), IROOT:NOT offers Unconditional Salvation, and YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO JOIN THE MOVEMENT to get it! Resistance is useless! The model is simple, and simple is good. Part I of The Third Miraculodynamic Axiom sums it up: "When you die, your divine consciousness unconditionally merges with the One." This simple axiom will draw moral fire. It shouts the idea that God loves and accepts everyone unconditionally. God must realize that we're all in the human bodies, chock full of limitations. Psychologically, we're riddled with paradoxes, and many have traumatic scars. Someone can always counter any idea we have with an equally valid point of view. Even reasonable, devoted people must consider for a moment the possibility that God doesn't exist. For instance, why does He allow all of this suffering? Even the most devout believer must ask this question. It's as if Nature has crucified us to a Suffering Template. Sure, we can explain this a couple of ways. He wants to "test our faith" or "let us learn lessons." But if He's so . . . so . . . BIG about everything, then why would He need to test our faith? Being omniscient, He already knows whether we'd be faithful or not. Does He like to see His minuscule creatures squirm? Or "to learn lessons": We have to suffer - for many lifetimes - just to learn something? Why doesn't He just tell us what "it" is in the first place! (Because we'd miss all the painful learning experiences?) An Experiment For many IROOT:NOTians, all of this - life, the universe, and everything - is an experiment. Stumbling through countless lifetimes trying to find The Answer is unnecessary. This endless search for The Answer is SOMEBODY ELSE'S IDEA! Bungling through one lifetime is enough. If you think about it, throughout history, great minds from all cultures have struggled to find The Answer. (Some have even claimed that THEY are The Answer.) Yet, whenever two people agree on what It is, they inevitably interpret it differently. What's worse, while you're in Search Mode (trying to find It), you usually create an additional layer of suffering. YOU BELIEVE THAT YOU MUST FIND IT TO BE HAPPY! IROOT:NOTians are quick (but cautious) to observe that The Answer PROBABLY DOESN'T EXIST! We've been spending at least part of our lives LOOKING, when EXPERIMENTING might have been less painful, more fun, and at least more holistic. Have you ever noticed that when you stop trying to get something or are indifferent towards it, the universe often drops it in your lap? Try saying, "Ah, who cares about the stupid Answer anyway" (and meaning it in a non-sarcastic way). Maybe The Answer (if it exists) will pop into your brain while you're brushing your teeth. As Evin, The Unsavior, I want to share this thought with you. It's neither a threat, a promise, nor a command. At best, it's like an angel's feather tickling your imagination. At worst, it could trigger a judgment program. In the middle somewhere, it will mean nothing. "You are Pre-Saved. When you die, you will fully experience your God Self, even if you've been a bad boy (or girl) in this life." If you accept this option, you might ask yourself "What's next?" Being "Pre-Saved" is an idea, like "needing to be saved" and "balancing your karma." Ideas are something to experiment with, until you've found The Answer. By the way, Part II of The Third Miraculodynamic Axiom states: "When you [as a human] die, you stop hallucinating and remember that you are the One." ............................................................. For more information about IROOT:NOT, send email to: starbldr@gate.net. Say, "Mo' info," and receive the "IROOT:NOTics Pre-Ramble." * You can find an e-version copy of the book "The Ascension of the Planetary Consciousness" (Third Edition) by Starbuilders at our web site: http://www.lightwork.dk/Starbuilders -- As Light, we are one. "We do our best, Spirit does the rest." ------------------------------------- Evin Home page: http://www.lightwork.dk/Starbuilders Starbuilders Books; tapes; free stuff; items not available elsewhere --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1)