--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E2F00011 Date: 02/08/97 From: STEVE COURTON Time: 05:04am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Apollo Moon Landings Faked Propogand05:04:0002/08/97 From: "Steve Courton" Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Organization: RIGHT CHOICE BBS Original Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 20:17:20 GMT . and.erols.net!news.mathworks.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!leto.ou.edu!news.ou.ed . u!courton From: courton@nsslsun.nssl.uoknor.edu (Steve Courton) .Newsgroups: alt.misc.forteana,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.canada,soc.cultu . re.usa,alt.conspiracy,alt.nuke.the.USA,alt.conspiracy,alt.government.abuse,a . lt.alien.visitors,alt.paranormal,alt.paranet.ufo,alt.paranormal.channeling,a . lt.paranormal,alt.alien.vi .sitors,alt.alien.research,alt.misc.forteana,sci.astro,sci.astro.amateur Subject: Re: Apollo Moon Landings Faked Propoganda .Date: 5 Feb 1997 20:17:20 GMT .Organization: National Severe Storms Laboratory .Lines: 38 .Message-ID: <5dapsg$96i$1@artemis.backbone.ou.edu> .References: <32F83753.1DB9@knowstruth.net> .NNTP-Posting-Host: ervic.nssl.uoknor.edu .Xref: news.pla-net.net alt.misc.forteana:2357 soc.culture.europe:31660 soc.cu . lture.canada:53223 soc.culture.usa:66222 alt.conspiracy:102995 alt.nuke.the. . USA:44868 alt.government.abuse:7291 alt.alien.visitors:73716 alt.paranormal: . 20182 alt.paranet.ufo:4436 .5 alt.paranormal.channeling:4080 alt.alien.research:26816 sci.astro:38626 sci . .astro.amateur:38756 In article , Ishtiaq Hussain wrote: >In article <32F83753.1DB9@knowstruth.net>, Bo Fiddely was compelled to >put into words the following... >> As an American who always felt great pride in the success of the NASA >> lunar missions of the late 1960's and 70's, I now believe strongly that >> the whole thing was a cold war fake. >> >> In this month's issues of Fortean Times David Percy a professional with >> the Royal Photographic Society proves beyond a shadow of a doubt, that >> the photos and TV videos of the Astronauts on the lunar surface are >> staged. And very badly at that. >> >> It is really quite incredible and very sad if you are an American. Could >> someone please post back and tell me the Fortean Times story if a joke. >> Because right now I am very conviced of the cover-up and very, very >> angry that our government would do this to the world. >> >> Thanks >> >Thats nothing compared to the worlds greatest conspiracy in which >every Government in the world takes part. What is it - that the world >is really round. Join the American Flat Earth Society and learn the >truth. You can fall off the edge of the world, fairies do exist and >Elvis is still alive. Its also interesting that the Soviet Union also went along with this hoax? They had the technology to verify we landed on the moon and they certainly didn't like it that we beat them there. Steve --------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Courton courton@ou.edu Professional Storm Chaser Cloud 9 Tours - Storm Chasing Vacations in Tornado Alley Cloud 9 Info: http://www3.pair.com/storms/cld9/cld9.htm --------------------------------------------------------------- --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E2F00012 Date: 02/08/97 From: GREATDANE@MINDSPRING.COM Time: 05:04am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Apollo Moon Landings Faked Propogand05:04:0002/08/97 From: "Greatdane@mindspring.com" Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Organization: RIGHT CHOICE BBS Original Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 21:03:47 GMT . .bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.mindspring.com!usenet From: greatdane@mindspring.com .Newsgroups: alt.misc.forteana,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.canada,soc.cultu . re.usa,alt.conspiracy,alt.nuke.the.USA,alt.conspiracy,alt.government.abuse,a . lt.alien.visitors,alt.paranormal,alt.paranet.ufo,alt.paranormal.channeling,a . lt.paranormal,alt.alien.vi .sitors,alt.alien.research,alt.misc.forteana,sci.astro,sci.astro.amateur Subject: Re: Apollo Moon Landings Faked Propoganda .Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 16:03:47 -0500 .Organization: MindSpring Enterprises .Lines: 51 .Message-ID: <32F8F5B2.7B83@mindspring.com> .References: <32F83753.1DB9@knowstruth.net> <5dapsg$96i$1@artemis.backbone.ou.edu> .Reply-To: greatdane@mindspring.com .NNTP-Posting-Host: user-37kb789.dialup.mindspring.com .Mime-Version: 1.0 .Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii .Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit .X-Server-Date: 5 Feb 1997 20:58:34 GMT .X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) .Xref: news.pla-net.net alt.misc.forteana:2360 soc.culture.europe:31663 soc.cu . lture.canada:53227 soc.culture.usa:66233 alt.conspiracy:103007 alt.nuke.the. . USA:44876 alt.government.abuse:7296 alt.alien.visitors:73722 alt.paranormal: . 20187 alt.paranet.ufo:4437 .0 alt.paranormal.channeling:4081 alt.alien.research:26819 sci.astro:38631 sci . .astro.amateur:38763 Steve Courton wrote: > > In article , > Ishtiaq Hussain wrote: > >In article <32F83753.1DB9@knowstruth.net>, Bo Fiddely was compelled to > >put into words the following... > >> As an American who always felt great pride in the success of the NASA > >> lunar missions of the late 1960's and 70's, I now believe strongly that > >> the whole thing was a cold war fake. > >> > >> In this month's issues of Fortean Times David Percy a professional with > >> the Royal Photographic Society proves beyond a shadow of a doubt, that > >> the photos and TV videos of the Astronauts on the lunar surface are > >> staged. And very badly at that. > >> > >> It is really quite incredible and very sad if you are an American. Could > >> someone please post back and tell me the Fortean Times story if a joke. > >> Because right now I am very conviced of the cover-up and very, very > >> angry that our government would do this to the world. > >> > >> Thanks > >> > >Thats nothing compared to the worlds greatest conspiracy in which > >every Government in the world takes part. What is it - that the world > >is really round. Join the American Flat Earth Society and learn the > >truth. You can fall off the edge of the world, fairies do exist and > >Elvis is still alive. > > Its also interesting that the Soviet Union also went along with this > hoax? They had the technology to verify we landed on the moon and > they certainly didn't like it that we beat them there. > > Steve > --------------------------------------------------------------- > Steve Courton > courton@ou.edu > Professional Storm Chaser > Cloud 9 Tours - Storm Chasing Vacations in Tornado Alley > Cloud 9 Info: http://www3.pair.com/storms/cld9/cld9.htm > --------------------------------------------------------------- Well Steve, If the United States lied, why couldn't Russia lie too? What if all the books in all the libraries in the USA were faked? What if all the filming was faked? And all the hundreds or thousands of people lied? But reading a story in the "Fortean Times" is the absolute truth! What I'm getting to- is that "if a person swallows a uninvestigated story from some magazine and believes it thoroughly" there is no amount of evidence that will satisfy them" Herman --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E2F00013 Date: 02/08/97 From: LRH02@GNOFN.ORG Time: 05:04am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Apollo Moon Landings Faked Propogand05:04:0002/08/97 From: "Lrh02@gnofn.org" Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Organization: RIGHT CHOICE BBS Original Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 00:29:17 GMT . o.neosoft.com!junkie.gnofn.org!sparkie.gnofn.org!not-for-mail From: Leigh R Hidell .Newsgroups: alt.misc.forteana,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.canada,soc.cultu . re.usa,alt.usa-sucks,alt.conspiracy,alt.nuke.the.USA,alt.government.abuse,al . t.alien.visitors,alt.paranormal,alt.paranet.ufo,uk.media.tv.sf.x-files,alt.p . aranormal.channeling,de.so Subject: Re: Apollo Moon Landings Faked Propoganda .Date: 6 Feb 1997 00:29:17 GMT .Organization: Greater New Orleans Free-Net .Lines: 14 .Message-ID: <5db8kt$2nv@junkie.gnofn.org> .NNTP-Posting-Host: sparkie.gnofn.org .X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 unoff BETA release 961115] .Xref: news.pla-net.net alt.misc.forteana:2371 soc.culture.europe:31710 soc.cu . lture.canada:53263 soc.culture.usa:66309 alt.usa-sucks:2545 alt.conspiracy:1 . 03131 alt.nuke.the.USA:44924 alt.government.abuse:7318 alt.alien.visitors:73 . 762 alt.paranormal:20212 a .lt.paranet.ufo:44394 uk.media.tv.sf.x-files:7764 alt.paranormal.channeling:40 . 87 : and watched them hit the lunar surface at the same time. I thought of : the claim that this was faked, and the size of the vacuum chamber that : would have had to be built to simulate that effect, and the megatons of : air pressure on the roof of such a chamber, and concluded that it would : have been easier to actually go to the moon than to fake it. : -- In younger days, I thought the same as you. However, it has become increasingly obvious that even w/ today's far more sophisticated computers, we can't go to the moon, so it's getting awful hard to believe we could do it in 1969. --Leigh --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E2F00014 Date: 02/08/97 From: JAFFO Time: 05:04am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Nutopian Security Upd From: "Jaffo" Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Organization: RIGHT CHOICE BBS Original Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 02:39:55 GMT . et!news-out.microserve.net!news-in.microserve.net!news-xfer.netaxs.com!news. . mathworks.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintl . ink.net!news.sprintlink.ne .t!news-atl-21.sprintlink.net!news.onramp.net!usenet From: jaffo@onramp.net (Jaffo) .Newsgroups: alt.stupidity,alt.society.neutopia,alt.jyotish,alt.journalism,alt . .cyberspace,alt.consciousness,alt.flame.jay-stevens,alt.alien.visitors,alt.c . yberpunk,alt.cyberspace.rebels,alt.religion.kibology,alt.paranormal.channeli . ng,alt.fan.jai-maharaj,alt ..paranet.psi,alt.culture.usenet,alt.wired,alt.religion.shamanism,alt.conspira . cy Subject: Re: Nutopian Security Update! .Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 02:39:55 GMT .Organization: Crossroads Entertainment .Lines: 17 .Message-ID: <32fd4464.4384704@news.onramp.net> .References: <32C80F7C.26B2@earthlink.net> <5a9fv3$nuc@trojan.neta.com> <5amou . i$k9o@news-central.tiac.net> <32e1b87e.35992315@news.lava.net> <5b0rnj$rk7$1 . @proxy01.iafrica.com> <32d44f88.4900917@news.lava.net> <5b31rm$c95$2@proxy01 . .iafrica.com> <32d8147e.90 .3351@betanews.demon.co.uk> <5b97r8$rjm$1@proxy01.iafrica.com> .NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp1-39.ftwotx.onramp.net .Mime-Version: 1.0 .Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii .Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit .Keywords: hat tree brick rock wink prostate Dole corrugated firm bouncy happy . cat woof cobble freak hectare moo .X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99g/32.339 .Xref: news.pla-net.net alt.stupidity:28523 alt.society.neutopia:13832 alt.jyo . tish:10201 alt.journalism:35872 alt.cyberspace:14406 alt.consciousness:14182 . alt.flame.jay-stevens:3509 alt.alien.visitors:73786 alt.cyberpunk:16463 alt . .cyberspace.rebels:2045 al .t.religion.kibology:36009 alt.paranormal.channeling:4091 alt.fan.jai-maharaj: . 17769 alt.paranet.psi:5565 alt.culture.usenet:19053 alt.wired:23739 alt.reli . gion.shamanism:4639 alt.conspiracy:103208 In alt.religion.kibology, on Sat, 11 Jan 1997 23:31:58 GMT, Schwann wrote: :This is an investigation into the possible brain implant you may have :unwillingly allowed the last time you had a tooth filled. That dreamy :sensation when the TV is switched on..know what I'm saying? I get an erection when somebody uses the toaster. Does this mean something? Jaffo -- In America you can only win your ratings by decisive actions. If you start all sorts of discussions, then you are not President. -- Mikhail Gorbachev http://rampages.onramp.net/~jaffo/ --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E2F00015 Date: 02/08/97 From: MARTIN@MIFF.DEMON.CO.UK Time: 05:04am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Apollo Moon Landings Faked Propogand05:04:0002/08/97 From: "Martin@miff.demon.co.uk" Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Organization: RIGHT CHOICE BBS Original Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 00:24:45 GMT . sfeed.internetmci.com!hunter.premier.net!news.mathworks.com!rill.news.pipex. . net!pipex!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!miff.demon.co.uk!miff.demon.co.uk!ma . rtin From: Michael Martin-Smith .Newsgroups: alt.misc.forteana,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.canada,soc.cultu . re.usa,alt.usa-sucks,alt.conspiracy,alt.nuke.the.USA,alt.government.abuse,al . t.alien.visitors,alt.paranormal,alt.paranet.ufo,uk.media.tv.sf.x-files,alt.p . aranormal.channeling,de.so .c.weltanschauung.misc,alt.alien.research,sci.astro,sci.astro.amateur Subject: Re: Apollo Moon Landings Faked Propoganda .Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 00:24:45 +0000 .Organization: seldom-if-ever .Distribution: uk .Message-ID: .References: <32F83753.1DB9@knowstruth.net> <5dbfsn$aep@suba01.suba.com> . <32F9A97F.48C6@ug.ee.ed.ac.uk> .Reply-To: "" .NNTP-Posting-Host: miff.demon.co.uk .X-NNTP-Posting-Host: miff.demon.co.uk .MIME-Version: 1.0 .X-Newsreader: Turnpike Version 3.00 <$G1ZMhUypgRZiUlTIhaCVEiok8> .Lines: 58 .Xref: news.pla-net.net alt.misc.forteana:2411 soc.culture.europe:31961 soc.cu . lture.canada:53425 soc.culture.usa:66724 alt.usa-sucks:2596 alt.conspiracy:1 . 03633 alt.nuke.the.USA:45172 alt.government.abuse:7383 alt.alien.visitors:73 . 971 alt.paranormal:20392 a .lt.paranet.ufo:44549 uk.media.tv.sf.x-files:7822 alt.paranormal.channeling:41 . 19 de.soc.weltanschauung.misc:810 alt.alien.research:26965 sci.astro:38797 s . ci.astro.amateur:38986 In article <32F9A97F.48C6@ug.ee.ed.ac.uk>, Stewart Smith writes >Robert Casey wrote: >> >> The word is "TROLL" or TROLLING". A stupid or silly posting done to >> get the newsgroup all riled up, possibly done to get a flame war >> going. > >Well it's done something the traffic here is about 3-400 percent up on >yesterday which is a paranormal event anyway on here. Just for the >record I tend to believe that if the conditions for photography were as >bad as they were described in the FT then maybe one mission (Appolo 6 >wasn't it?) did come back without any decent pictures and they ended up >faking a few to cover their uselessness. > >Stew Several Saturn 5's were seen heading upwards into the sky by thousands of people, live at Cape Kennedy. Thousands of technicians attended the vehicles as they were prepared - Command modules,rocket stages, crew etc. Many would doubtless have noticed that 3 men got into the Apollo capsule , went up into the sky under a gigantic fireball, and disappeared from view. Would the then Soviet Union not have loved to reveal that no US spacecraft left orbit on their tracking screens? Was Jodrell Bank in on the conspiracy? I don't believe that Sir Bernard Lovell was bought off, or Kettering Grammar school, who uncovered many Soviet secrets and failures i that period.The crews then came back 9-12 days later, carrying at least several tens of kilos of rock without touching Earth in the intervening period; where did the rock come from, and why are the minerals not easily identifiable as terrestrial minerals, eg the orange "genesis rock" or the totally anhydous regolith samples, uncontaminated by a trace of organic matter. Even Antarctic samples show evidence of life, or contact with oxygen? Scientists from many disciplines and countries have studied samples of these rocks; have they all been fooled, or were they all bought? Was Apollo roomy enough to contain 3 men and a sterilizer big enough to "cook" over 100 lbs of rock to that extent. If they orbited the Earth for a few days and came back without going to the Moon, someone must have pre-filled Apollo with all this junk; after 25 years, has no one sold his story to the Press yet? It would require a roomful of X-files in itself to explain away that violation of human nature! Maybe I'm being too simple, but surely the Fortean Times is primarily a vehicle of entertainment, not scholarship. There are enough people in Congress/Government who would love to debunk or kill the Space progamme for Budgetary reasons, who would have access to such a cover-up - if it existed; surely by now they could have blown it wide open, and put an end to the myth of "America's glorious days of Apollo". The space effort would never survive the laughter, and billions could be excised from the budget. Times have changed, as we keep hearing; there is , for many people, no propaganda value in having gone to the Moon, so why keep up such an elaborate pretence? Maybe all the above is not proof absolute, but it is a lot easier to believe than the alternative. NO, JFK WAS shot; Elvis, and Mao Tse Tung ARE truly dead; and Martin Bormann is not teaching Sunday school in Bolivia, and Adolf Hitler was not a Zionist conspirator. Apollo DID go to the Moon! -- Michael Martin-Smith --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E2F00016 Date: 02/08/97 From: ANGUS@UTECH.NET Time: 05:04am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Apollo Moon Landings Faked Propogand05:04:0002/08/97 From: "Angus@utech.net" Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Organization: RIGHT CHOICE BBS Original Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 01:34:42 GMT . re.usa,alt.usa-sucks,alt.conspiracy,alt.nuke.the.USA,alt.government.abuse,al . t.alien.visitors,alt.paranormal,alt.paranet.ufo,uk.media.tv.sf.x-files,alt.p . aranormal.channeling,de.so .c.weltanschauung.misc,alt.alien.research,sci.astro,sci.astro.amateur Subject: Re: Apollo Moon Landings Faked Propoganda .References: <32F83753.1DB9@knowstruth.net> <+fKjNEA+PN+yEw22@higgs1.demon.co. . uk> .Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii .Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit .NNTP-Posting-Host: lp-36.utech.net .Lines: 28 .Path: news.pla-net.net!news-out.internetmci.com!pull-feed.internetmci.com!new . sfeed.internetmci.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull . .sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-stk-200.sprintlink.net!news.utech.n . et! .Xref: news.pla-net.net alt.misc.forteana:2412 soc.culture.europe:31970 soc.cu . lture.canada:53429 soc.culture.usa:66735 alt.usa-sucks:2598 alt.conspiracy:1 . 03650 alt.nuke.the.USA:45178 alt.government.abuse:7387 alt.alien.visitors:73 . 974 alt.paranormal:20397 a .lt.paranet.ufo:44551 uk.media.tv.sf.x-files:7824 alt.paranormal.channeling:41 . 20 de.soc.weltanschauung.misc:811 alt.alien.research:26970 sci.astro:38803 s . ci.astro.amateur:38995 John Higgs wrote: > > Hi Bo, > > There has been an in-depth debate about Percy's 'findings' in > alt.misc.forteana a month or so back - you'll be able to find the > postings in www.dejanews.com. > > I think a fair summation would be that the evidence that NASA did land > on the moon is overwhelming, and that there are serious flaws in a > number of Percy's arguments. However, there is still the nagging > suspicion that, due to a number of 'staged'-looking pictures or pictures > with apparent multiple light sources, NASA did stage some of the photos > on Earth. > Another silly arguement about the moon landings. Lets see, multiple light sourses. (1) The sun (2) Light off the camera (3) Lights off the lander (4) Lights off the rover (5) Lights off sourses of lumination astronauts carried with them or were on the suit. THINK people. Angus --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1)