--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E2500002 Date: 02/04/97 From: KLAUS WAGNER Time: 09:33am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Predictions and Prophecies Fulfilled Tod09:33:0002/04/97 Reply-to: Rider.on.the.white.horse@t-online.de From: "Klaus Wagner" Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Organization: Telekom Online Internet Gateway Original Date: 1 Feb 1997 22:05:14 GMT At a time of uncertainty and change such as ours many people become interested in prophecies. There is even a whole industry of professional prophets calling themselves "futurologists" who work in "think tanks". Ancient prophets like Nostradamus are well sold and read. Yet few people appreciate that ancient "holy" books such as the Bible and the Koran are full of amazing predictions. They are amazing, because they have come true with great accuracy. We only need to translate the symbolic language into plain English. The prophets often had to use such language in order to describe things totally unfamiliar to them. Some examples: > M o d e r n C a r s : The prophet Habakkuk had a vision some 2500 years ago, in which he foresaw immoral behavior by the so-called "Babylonians". And he also wrote down that >their horses are swifter than leopards, fiercer than wolves at dusk. (1:8) (Think about a car race, a motorway, freeway or autobahn and the thousands of people killed in accidents each year) Some 150 years previously his colleague Isaiah had also been highly critical of a certain time in the future and the people who live then. He tells us that we can recognize this time by the fact that > their land is full of horses; there is no end to the coaches (2:7). (This is as good a description of a modern traffic jam as can be expected from someone living 2650 years ago.) > M o d e r n M e d i a : 2500 years ago the prophet Esdras had many visions about the so-called "end-times", some of which are about a future yet to come. Many of them have already come true. He writes in the "Apocrypha", books that are unfortunately missing in many Bible editions that > stones will speak (2 Esdras 5:5) (It may sound far fetched to relate this to radios, TV and loudspeakers in general, but look at it this way: If you had lived 2500 years ago, how would you have describe a vision of these things? ) > E n v i r o n m e n t P o l l u t i o n P r o b l e m s : The most detailed prophecies about our time can be found in the Book of Revelation. 2000 years ago the prophet John predicted in chapter 16 that the sea turned brown > like the blood of a dead man, and every living thing in the sea died (16:3). He also predicted the greenhouse effect and harmful sun-radiation because of the damaged ozone layer in chapter 16, verse 8. I am interested in your opinion. If you are also interested in the fulfillment of further Bible Prophecies in our time, I can send you a 29 page file, roughly 0,09 MB about prophecies in general and the fulfillment of Bible prophecies, particularly the Book of Revelation in our time. Just drop me an Email stating the word-processing format you use. Klaus --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E2500003 Date: 02/03/97 From: MODERATOR Time: 11:04pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: RULES - PLEASE READ!! ************************************************************** CHANNELS Conference Rules - Updated June 30, 1994 ************************************************************** NOTE: these rules do NOT apply to alt.paranormal.channeling o This conference is for the discussion of Channels and related topics, including: - The messages that come from channelling - How to channel - What is channelling - Who channels - The entities giving the messages ************************************************************** o The Following are NOT ALLOWED at any time: 1. profane language. 2. Personal attacks against any person or organization 3. Long threads on topics not related to channelling 4. 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Glenda Stocks (Moderator) --- FileMgr 3103G * Origin: FileMgr -- The Ultimate Fileprocessor (1:330/201) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E2500004 Date: 02/03/97 From: DRJOHN Time: 11:49pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Rajon Institute updates From: "drjohn" Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Organization: None Original Date: 3 Feb 1997 20:03:36 GMT New updates are available with credit card purchase and new ufo section just introduced plus egypt tours and lots more. http://www.pavilion.co.uk/rajon/wlindex.htm drjohn --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E2500005 Date: 02/03/97 From: MARIAN PUDEK Time: 11:49pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Re:Our Meditation and H.B. Companion Con23:49:0002/03/97 From: "Marian Pudek" Newsgroups: lt.paranet.paranormal,alt.alien.visitors,alt.paranet.ufo,alt.para normal,alt.paranormal.channeling Organization: Cyberion Networking Corp. Original Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 00:33:10 GMT Our Meditation and Hale-Bopp Connection. October 3/96, was our regular day for a meditation session and channeling. This evening only 8 out of possible 12 of our group arrived, and as usually we settled down for a meditation. Often some of our advanced members go quite deeply in trans and doing some inter- dimensional traveling. This session was not exception. With an assistance of our Spirit Guides a parachute came down with seats built into them, for the all of us. We went very high into space. While moving upward we saw our planet getting smaller and smaller. Eventually we landed on a planet Ecru (as the Grays call it). There we saw a huge space ship, we could not see its beginning nor the end, it was hovering above planet Earth. Eventually this huge ship moved above the planet Ecru. From here we could see its understructure. Underneath the craft there were lines leading towards the center which looked like a spider web. Those lines were rather like metal pipes with holes in them. As we looked at them, a large suction cups came out of them. As the ship moved below us, we had the opportunity to view the top of it. The ship started to descend closer to earth and started to vacuum the earth of its toxic gases. While the cleaning was going on, we could see on the earth and we could also see what appeared to be like twisters or tornadoes. These twisters appeared to be formed as the result of this cleansing. The earths toxic gases were sucked in into the ship where they were processed, filtered and spewed into the space with an assistance of a fan located on top of the craft. In the part of the ship where were there were strange looking instrumentations. There also were lots of activities and many different beings present there, tall and short. Among them were beings that looked like Star Trek characters, humans, bell shaped Ecruans of different size, but the Grays dominated the activities, it seemed that they were in control. After the process had ended, the ETs told us: when you go to earth you will feel increased energy because much what was not needed is removed , it is gone now. But the cleansing process will continue further, until it is completed. After this demonstration, we were put a cones over our heads and were seated in a parachute and lowered to earth. Meantime we were also told: even if you may think it is impossible, your earth and you will go through this cleansing process. In the room where we were, was full of energy and full with different beings and energy, and all of those present there were laughing and happy. One of our main spirit guides Andreas said: "this is your right to be happy." After coming out of this meditation and back in our chairs we shared our surprising experience. Out of 8 of us present there, only 3 participants had actually been aware and experienced this escapade. From those 3, the stories were very similar. Of course, we pondered the feasibility of this actually happening. We thought, that what we saw, was in the future, and we had a glimpse of it, or perhaps just being only symbolic. The whole adventure lasted the length of our meditation which was about 20 minutes, it looked real, but how could that be possible? A huge space ship with us on board vacuuming earths atmosphere - ridiculous, to weird to share with normal people - so held back. Then some time later, (~ 17/nov/96) I run into the Internet articles describing Chuck Shramek's the Hale-Bopp Companion and Courtney Browns description of it based on SRVs accounts. This all sounded somewhat familiar with our experiences. Could it have anything to do with our own meditation? To check it out, november 27/96, our regular channeling/meditation session, we asked our trusted spirit guides about Chuck Shramek and Dr. Courtney Brown speculations about this H-B Companion. This was to our surprise confirmed by them. They said that there is indeed an Interstellar ship as the SRV's (Scientific Remote Viewers) have perceived and or speculated on. Our Guides also added, that this ship was already twice over the earth and did more cleaning and more to be done yet. (How and when?)They made it to sound almost like a plea on the behalf of the ETs, that they need more help from everybody. That the collective and positive awareness of many will affect the results favorably. Group of our spirit guides (the Flowing Waters) stressed, that there is a need to open up to these oncoming changes. But above all they said, there is an urgent need for openness from the Big Boys. They ( the Spirit guides) claim that the Government's know more about the ET's then they want to admit. There is nothing entirely new to us, and many others, but only a confirmation to the many rumors of Government's secrecy. We were also reminded, that we should not feel particularly privileged about having access to this information since there are many groups like ours that the ETs are in contact with, and the truth should be shared and spread. We all, should be prepared to handle these oncoming changes with greater acceptance. That is why we as a group although with some reluctance finally decided to share our strange meditation experiences to support findings of those like Chuck Shramek and others that support these strange but progressive and futuristic ideas. We are not alone in the vast Universe. No other comments at this time, judge it for yourself. Perhaps we are a little strange, we think that many of others out there are also - or are we? This all sounds like a Science Fiction, maybe it is purely for our entertainment. On the other hand many of the things that were once science fiction came to pass, maybe this one will also in some distant future - who knows. With love and peace, Marian --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E2B00000 Date: 02/05/97 From: MARC BAILLIET Time: 09:33am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: George Anderson From: "Marc Bailliet" Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Organization: Netcom Original Date: 4 Feb 1997 07:40:04 GMT I am trying to find information and a way to contact George Anderson. If anyone can help I would greatly appreciate it. Marc Bailliet --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E2B00001 Date: 02/05/97 From: RBRAVER@OHWW.NORMAN.OK.US Time: 09:33am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: cmsg cancel <5d0emr$mj3@news00.btx.dtag.09:33:0002/05/97 From: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Original Date: 4 Feb 1997 22:19:08 GMT Spam cancelled. Notice ID: 19970204.25. See news.admin.net-abuse.announce r http://spam.ohww.norman.ok.us/spam_notices/19970204.25.html for complete report. Original Subject: Predictions and Prophecies Fulfilled Today --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E2B00002 Date: 02/05/97 From: RBRAVER@OHWW.NORMAN.OK.US Time: 09:33am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: cmsg cancel <5cuoji$ooi@news00.btx.dtag.09:33:0002/05/97 From: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Original Date: 4 Feb 1997 22:19:08 GMT Spam cancelled. Notice ID: 19970204.25. See news.admin.net-abuse.announce r http://spam.ohww.norman.ok.us/spam_notices/19970204.25.html for complete report. Original Subject: The Internet predicted 2500 years ago? --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E2B00003 Date: 02/05/97 From: CLEWIS@FERRET.OCUNIX.ON.C Time: 09:33am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: cmsg cancel TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E2B00004 Date: 02/05/97 From: ANDRZEJ GORSKI Time: 09:33am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Sound and Sacred Geometry Teachings 09:33:0002/05/97 Reply-to: boozer@erols.com From: "Andrzej Gorski" Newsgroups: alk.religion.newage,alt.paranormal.channeling,alt.paranormal,alt. aranet.psi,alt.paranet.paranormal,alt.paranet.metaphysics,alt.out Of-Body,alt.metaphysics.lightwork,alt.meditation.transcendental,a Organization: Havertown,PA Original Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 22:21:08 -0500 ------------22CA613127C0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In your picture, the shape of the regular ...octahedron..?? is made from wood or something similar. Is the actual exisrance of the shape a necessity? I understand that an average patient does not have the necessary concentration to envision the existance of a perfect octahedron about him/her-self, but given a patient with this ability (say a reiki student, or someone through transcedential meditation) would it be possible to transcend the necessity of using an actual object? Had this been acheived and the shape only existed in the minds of the people present wouldn't it work much better that way? Isn't that what each one of us does (in their own way) every time we heal??? Thanx for your consideration With love and light, Mike Gorski Reiki II ------------22CA613127C0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
In your picture, the shape of the regular ...octahedron..??  is made from wood or something similar.  Is the actual exisrance of the shape a necessity?  I understand that an average patient does not have the necessary concentration to envision the existance of a perfect octahedron about him/her-self,  but given a patient with this ability (say a reiki student, or someone through transcedential meditation) would it be possible to transcend the necessity of using an actual object?  Had this been acheived and the shape only existed in the minds of the people present wouldn't it work much better that way?  
Isn't that what each one of us does (in their own way) every time we heal???
 
Thanx for your consideration
With love and light,
 
Mike Gorski
Reiki II
 
------------22CA613127C0-- --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E2B00005 Date: 02/05/97 From: BITBUCKET@NEWS.MSFC.NASA. Time: 09:33am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: cmsg cancel <86d_9701060850@edge.crp.kin09:33:0002/05/97 Reply-to: bitbucket@news.msfc.nasa.gov From: news@news.msfc.nasa.gov Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling,control Organization: Semi-Automatic Chain Letter Remover Original Date: Mon, 27 Jan 97 20:41:00 +0100 Original Date: Thu, 23 Jan 97 15:55:30 +0100 Original Date: Mon, 20 Jan 97 22:16:49 +0100 Original Date: Fri, 17 Jan 97 08:53:37 +0100 Original Date: Mon, 13 Jan 97 16:27:44 +0100 Original Date: Mon, 06 Jan 97 18:55:50 +0100 Original Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 21:33:02 GMT ignore Make Money Fast post canceled by news@news.msfc.nasa.gov. Make Money Fast has been posted thousands of times, enough to qualify as cancel-on-sight spam. The chain letter scheme it describes is illegal in many countries. For example, see: http://www.usps.gov/websites/depart/inspect/chainlet.htm J. Porter Clark, d/b/a The Unknown News Administrator --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1)