--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E1J00014 Date: 01/13/97 From: BRUCE BEHRENS Time: 3:01:am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Notes on Heaven and Immortality (com3:01:13201/13/97 Reply-to: bhb@lns598.lns.cornell.edu From: "Bruce Behrens" Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Organization: Cornell University Original Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 22:19:35 -0500 tomeleven@aol.com wrote: > > In article , > hugabug@bug.net (jeff) writes: > > >i also believe Einstein said that nothing was faster than the speed of > >light in a vacuum, so travelling faster than the speed of light is > >impossible, which sort of rules out your time travel theory. > > Einstein is NOT GOD!----just because he said something, does not make it > so.--he was wrong about quantum theory("God does not play dice with the > universe") > Besides, we would be talking about relative speeds anyway---You actually > CAN go faster than the speed of light--you can cross the universe in mere > seconds(in a "light speed ship" )SHIPTIME, while BILLIONS of years may > pass on Earth. So to Earth, your ship travels at near light speed, to you > in the ship, you are traveling MUCH faster than light. I agree, "Einstein is NOT GOD!". His opinion of quantum theory was wrong. However, his theory of relativity is correct (at least to as many decimal places as we can measure). You cannot go faster than the speed of light. It is true that in a (near) "light speed ship" a person could (theoretically) travel millions of light-years in a human lifetime. However, from our perspective (on earth) it would take millions of years. For the person on the ship the universe would contract in the direction of travel so that, from his perspective, he would measure his speed as sub-light. Time slows down but it doesn't go backwards. In particle physics we accelerate subatomic particles to near light speed on a daily basis. At that speed, energy added to the particles increases their mass (E=mc^2), while their velocity only increases a tiny amount. It would take an infinite amount of energy to bring the particles to light speed, therefore it is impossible, not just impractical as "Wellbeing" put it. Bruce --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E1J00015 Date: 01/13/97 From: LBAHRINGER Time: 9:08:am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: ECLIPSE PSYCHIC SOLUTIONS 800-228-8520 From: "LBahringer" Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Original Date: 13 Jan 1997 05:17:45 GMT MASTER PSYCHIC AND ASTROLGER. OVER 20 YEARS EXPERIENCE. DEGREED AND CERTIFIED. 900-773-6655 EXT. 2734 IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR ACCURATE ANSWERS TO YOUR QUESTIONS, IF YOU WANT NAMES, DATES, TIMES, AND PLACES, CALL TODAY. TALK TO YOUR OWN PERSONAL PSYCHIC! --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E1J00016 Date: 01/13/97 From: JUHL CRICHTON Time: 9:08:am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Psychic Phone Line Readers Mailing List Reply-to: crichton@digicron.com From: "Juhl Crichton" Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Organization: Chaos Original Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 18:33:29 GMT I'm starting a mailing list for people who are readers for the 900 lines -- to share experiences, ideas, problems and solutions. Flames ignored...friendly inquiries welcome. If you'd like to subscribe to the mailing list, drop me an e-mail at crichton@digicron.com Juhl --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E1J00017 Date: 01/13/97 From: JOEY Time: 9:10:am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: to help you everyday : Pentacles made by9:10:58201/13/97 From: "joey" Newsgroups: lt.paranormal.channeling,alt.paranormal.pyramid,alt.paranormal.sp ells.hexes.magic Organization: sct.fr Original Date: 13 Jan 1997 11:57:53 GMT magic pentacles made by an honest and efficient magus, Hagen. Visit his site http://www.guidetv.com/hagen --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E1J00018 Date: 01/13/97 From: JOHN FITZSIMONS Time: 9:10:am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Regarding Channeling - A Point of In9:10:58201/13/97 From: "John Fitzsimons" Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Organization: Melbourne PC User Group Inc, Australia Original Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 13:34:55 GMT On Thu, 09 Jan 1997 22:11:45 -0800, Debra wrote: >John Fitzsimons wrote: < snip > >> > those who channel often are experiencing health difficulties. >> I know many people who don't channel who are experiencing health >> difficulties. Your point ? >Yours?? It would be appreciated if you didn't use that particular >tactic. It's passive-agressive. My point was stated: Some people can >experience health difficulties due to channelling. Is that clear enough? You didn't say "due to" in your previous post. Had you done so then clarification wouldn't have been required. > I don't with to start a flame war here, but your manner is more than a >trifle condescending. Can you please try for an open mind? Perhaps you could listen to your own advice. :-) >> If you are suggesting a connection then I would partly agree with you. >> Many mediums are poorly trained and therefore have more discordant >> energies/entities in their auras than they should. This can result in >> physical ill health manifesting. :-) >Okay, so many are poorly trained. Some are incredibly well trained, and >still can have difficulties. Forgive me, this is not meant as an >attack on you, but it sounds like your underlying assumption is the old >"if you were spiritually advanced enough, you would understand, or >wouldn't have this problem" line. Could you go into this in more detail? Yep. A lot of mediums don't know how to properly clear discordant energy and/or entities from around themselves prior to channelling. This can result in their "taking in" to their aura influences that can be detrimental to their health. An increase in psychic draining, aches, pains, and increased vulnerability to physical/mental/ emotional problems can be the outcome. A properly trained medium however can do the opposite. Have very positive energy and entities enter their aura. This can result in psychic energisation (healing), reduction in aches, pain, and a reduction in physical/mental and emotional problems. >> > I have stopped doing readings for >> >people because for some reason I cannot keep my energy from bleeding off >> >and getting sick when I do this. >> "Psychic draining" isn't limited only to psychic readers. It happens >> in many of the caring professions. Particularly to those people who >> don't properly apply psychic protection techniques. >Yes, I am well aware of this. Just because it happens elsewhere, >however, it doesn't necessarily follow that the cause is identical. Correct. However it often is. :-) > I am >not sure what you are trying to tell me here. Sounds like you're being >judgemental about poor me and my training and you don't know a thing >about me. Tsk, tsk. >> > That isn't channeling, but it is a similar problem. >> Moot point. Many readers are doing mental channeling. :-) >Mental channelling? What do you mean by that? If it comes through your >mind, it's mental. I am unclear on what you mean precisely. I assume >you feel any data received from "beyond" that comes to you solely in >mental form, without physical manifestation? That, and usually coming from spirit sources. > First, I think your underlying assumption is fundamentally opposed to >mine. < shock horror > > Basically, I gather that you see all interaction with the >non-physical as "channelling". Sounds like you're being judgemental about poor me and my opinions and you don't know a thing about me. Tsk, tsk. >That implies that all thoughts are channelled from elsewhere, too. If your assumption is wrong to start with then chances are so will your conclusion be. :-) > After all, they don't have a physical >base that has yet been determined, and neither has the spirit, or soul - >so it is channeled?? Thoughts can be channelled. Correct. You can channel your own thoughts by talking. :-) > I mean, that is the logical extension of your statement. "My" statement ? You mean your interpretation of my statement. I suggest you keep to what I have said rather than a misrepresentation of what I have said. > It renders your statements somewhat unworkable for me. G o l l y ! < snip > >> If one is doing "inspired writing" then they are doing mental >> channeling. If doing "automatic writing" then their hand is in trance. >Okay, I agree. But I am not confident that your three categories cover >all the possible types of information. Did I say that they would ? >You list mental, physical and >partial posession (i.e. automatic writing). But if your higher self >feeds you information - like reading the akashic records - is that really >channelling? Some would say that opening a channel to the spirit dimensions and passing the resultant information back would be a form of channeling. :-) > Okay, so this could be construed as splitting hairs, Good. Something we agree on. :-) > but I >think it is an important point, in particular when you imply that one >needs to have proper psychic protection any time you receive any psychic >information. If I continued with that line of thought, I could come up >with the concept that I would need to protect myself psychically from my >own thoughts. Good point. If more people were to negate their own negative thoughts then we would probably have fewer suicides, crime and violence in our society. A better approach however would be to not have the negative thoughts in the first place. >That sounds like a way to bring on a good case of schizophrenia... Negating negativity brings on schizophrenia ? That's news to me ! > I don't disagree with you completely. You make some good points. Wow ! Is that right ? A trifle condescending aren't we ? I can't help but get the impression that you are assuming that your interpretation of how things work is the one true way. Regards, John. **************************************************** ,-._|\ John Fitzsimons - Melbourne, Australia. / Oz \ johnf@melbpc.org.au, Fidonet 3:632/309 \_,--.x/ http://www.vicnet.net.au/~johnf/welcome.htm v http://www.alphalink.com.au/~johnf/ --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E1K00000 Date: 01/15/97 From: DOZER@NETWIZARDS.NET Time: 9:11:am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: A Special Offer! From: dozer@netwizards.net Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Original Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 18:06:06 Are you interested in making Millions in your spare time? 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