--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E1F00021 Date: 01/10/97 From: 'JESSE GARON' Time: 8:41:am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Nutopian Security Update! From: "'Jesse Garon'" Newsgroups: lt.consciousness,alt.society.neutopia,alt.jyotish,alt.journalism, lt.cyberspace,alt.consciousness,alt.alien.visitors,alt.cyberpunk, lt.cyberspace.rebels,alt.religion.kibology,alt.paranormal.channel Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet Original Date: 9 Jan 1997 12:50:05 -0700 Douglas Lathrop writes: >Bigfoot wrote: >: In article <5b0rnj$rk7$1@proxy01.iafrica.com>, Schwann says... >: >Those interested in tracking this phenommenon should also check >: >alt.dreams.castaneda. >: I got three words for you. Don't go there. >Isn't Castaneda a stupendous fraud? Bite your tongue, Doug! Java-based apps like Castaneda are going to herald a new age of webcasting! Streaming data, continually updated... about the only thing that'd be better would be a USENET with music and pictures! "Jesse Garon": the God damnedest mass of tact known to the human race --------------------------------------------------------------------- grifter@primenet.com http://www.primenet.com/~grifter/jesse.html --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E1F00022 Date: 01/10/97 From: DAVE Time: 8:41:am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: seeking John Edward Reply-to: bergerd@gramercy.ios.com From: "Dave" Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Organization: IDT Original Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 16:03:42 +0000 I would like to contact John Edward the psychic trans-medium from Huntington N.Y. I saw him profiled in Newsday, and would very much like to contact him. If anyone can help me please E-mail me thanks --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E1F00023 Date: 01/10/97 From: KEITH Time: 8:41:am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: 100% pure essential oils just$7, 15 ml b8:41:46001/10/97 From: "Keith" Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Organization: iiNet Technologies Original Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 10:10:51 +0800 Over 50 in range, also Turkish rose and jasmine5% absolutes just $15!!! Deal direct and prosper , email me spock@iinet.net.au for more info --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E1F00024 Date: 01/10/97 From: DOUGLAS LATHROP Time: 8:41:am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Nutopian Security Update! From: "Douglas Lathrop" Newsgroups: lt.consciousness,alt.society.neutopia,alt.jyotish,alt.journalism, lt.cyberspace,alt.consciousness,alt.alien.visitors,alt.cyberpunk, lt.cyberspace.rebels,alt.religion.kibology,alt.paranormal.channel Organization: Primenet (602)416-7000 Original Date: 9 Jan 1997 20:48:01 -0700 Schwann wrote: : "D.P. Roberts" wrote: : >And you're jealous of the D.P. Roberts / Lady Catwinter gang because I : >(or rather, we) are NOT BORING. : Haha, hehe..History is the judge of things like that. Good grief! Schwann vs. the Chendorks in a knock-down-drag-out-take-no-prisoners-ask-no-quarter flamewar! I'm having trouble deciding who to root for. : Be warned that hanging out here can cause you to experience : discontinuous reality as we slide towards the edge of the millennium. I take it back. If the Chendorks could write stuff as insipid as this, she/he/they might actually be entertaining. But until then, I guess I'll have to root for the cyber-schmuck. -- D O U G L A S P. L A T H R O P -------------------------------------------------------------------------- A.S.G-X Poster Child - Two words: Bon Vivant! - The NeuFreud of the USENET Visit Stately PAPER CUT MANOR! http://www.primenet.com/~lathrop/index.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ||||||||| "Honey, prepare to enter the hive of the Anti-Christ." ||||||||| --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E1F00025 Date: 01/10/97 From: RAY OSBORNE Time: 8:41:am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Worldwide Meditation for Abundance From: "Ray Osborne" Newsgroups: lt.paranormal.channeling,alt.paranet.metaphysics,alt.meditation,t alk.religion.newage,alt.consciousness Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Original Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 07:15:43 GMT jlpayne@box.nl (John Payne) wrote: >Celebration of Abundance >This worldwide meditation has been requested and organised by >Sanaya Roman and Duane Packer, along with their guides Orin and >DaBen, developers of the Awakening Your Light Body material and >authors of Living With Joy, Spiritual Growth, Opening to Channel >and other titles. > Celebration of Abundance > A Group Call to the Great Ones to Assist Humanity > Join us on the inner planes April 6 1997 > > Sunday morning 9:00-9:30 am Pacific/California Time > Sunday Midday 12:00 Easter Standard Time > > Sunday evening 18:00 Central European Time > > Sunday Afternoon 17:00 U.K. > > Sunday Afternoon 17:00 U.K. >Mark Your Calendar Now! >We are inviting you to call upon the Great Ones to change beliefs >of scarcity into beliefs of abundance. Each one of you will be a >point of light through which the Great Ones can transmit the >energies of abundance to others. >We can work together to make a difference. Beliefs in scarcity >create many problems in our world. If everyone believed in >abundance and were able to create in their lives, there would be >no need for wars. Poverty, hunger, and many of the problems of >humanity could be solved. With a belief in abundance, there would >be no need to take more than was needed from the environment. >Join us in calling on the Great Ones as a group, receiving and >radiating their love to others. You can make a difference! Every >moment you radiate their energy you are helping humanity. >Mark your calendar. Joins us by following the instructions below >on April 6th. Invite your friends, loved ones, and students who >are ready to create abundance to join us to call upon the Great >Ones. >You can request extra newsletters for those wanting to join in >this Celebration of Abundance from: >LuminEssence Productions >P.O. Box 1310 >Medford, Oregon >OR 97501 United States >Tel: 541 - 770 6700 >Fax: 541 - 770 6632 >How To call Upon the Great Ones >Who are the Great Ones? These are Beings of Light who are even >more evolved than the Masters. Although they never interfere with >free will, they can be called upon to assist humanity to evolve, >to live souls, and to assist humanity to lift some of the >conditions present. They work through those who call upon them >and through those who hear and respond to the energies they are >transmitting. They can see the past, present and potential >future, have the wisdom to know how to best help humanity. They >respond only to group need and lend their assistance when called >upon by enough sincere people. They are in touch with the highest >forces of light, and can work from these high levels to help >humanity create changes. >Join together in a Celebration of Abundance and call upon the >Great >OnesApril 6th 1997, by follwoing the steps below. >1. Relax your body, calm your emotions, and clear your mind. Let >yourself feel more and more peaceful. >2. Travel to the soul plane by focussing on the Solar Light. >3. Go to the Temple of the Enlightened Ones and blend with your >soul. >4. Call your soul to you and blend with it . >5. Imagine that you can sense or see the souls of everyone who is >joining together for this meditation. Greet these souls, and feel >the beautiful light that all of you are creating. >6. Picture being joined by many beings of light who are here to >work with you to call the Great Ones. >7. A group Om is sounded. You might want to sound an OM aloud. >Everyone in the group is focussing together to call upon the >Great Ones to assist humanity to awaken their heart centres. >Imagine you can hear this beautiful harmonized, and powerful call >to the Great Ones. >8. The Great Ones hear and respond. Receive their transmissions >of abundance into your Heart Center. Sense you heart center >growing radiant. You may have a sense of their transmission of >love, you may not. You awareness of their transmission is not >required to receive the energy being sent to you to transforms >your beliefs in scarcity into beliefs of abundance >9. Finish by radiating the energy you have recieved to: >*Your friends and family >*To all those who can respond to your light, past, present or >future >*To all lightworkers on the planet >*To all of humanity >*To the plant,animal and mineral kingdom, and to the Earth >herself. >Have no attachment to any results, for there may be none that you >can measure. You have just made a valuable and important >contribution to humanity by your call to the Great Ones for them >to change beliefs of scarcity into beliefs of abundance for all. >----------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------- >Posted by John Payne >http://www.box.nl/~jlpayne Good stuff John, not only will I join you but I will distribute this event ou to a large group of people in my mailing list that I have prepared just for group worldwide meditation. Will you join us on other events like this too ? Anybody can send me email to join. It's a low volume list no more one message a week. Include the word UNITY in the topic heading of the message. --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E1F00026 Date: 01/10/97 From: JUDY SPAULDING Time: 8:41:am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: The Rise Of Proteus...very cool! From: "Judy Spaulding" Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Organization: A customer of Pacific Bell Internet Services Original Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 06:36:53 GMT What a cool site! http://www.interchangelab.com. I've been checking it out and it keeps getting more interesting...especially their updates on Proteus and the Interchanger. What a mind blower! --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E1F00027 Date: 01/10/97 From: DEBRA Time: 8:41:am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Regarding Channeling - A Point of In8:41:57001/10/97 From: "Debra" Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Organization: Wyrddsmith Arts Original Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 22:11:45 -0800 John Fitzsimons wrote: > > On Sun, 05 Jan 1997 10:08:04 -0800, Debra wrote: > >Thank you for your response, John. > > > those who channel often are experiencing health difficulties. > > I know many people who don't channel who are experiencing health > difficulties. Your point ? Yours?? It would be appreciated if you didn't use that particular tactic. It's passive-agressive. My point was stated: Some people can experience health difficulties due to channelling. Is that clear enough? I don't with to start a flame war here, but your manner is more than a trifle condescending. Can you please try for an open mind? > > If you are suggesting a connection then I would partly agree with you. > Many mediums are poorly trained and therefore have more discordant > energies/entities in their auras than they should. This can result in > physical ill health manifesting. :-) Okay, so many are poorly trained. Some are incredibly well trained, and still can have difficulties. Forgive me, this is not meant as an attack on you, but it sounds like your underlying assumption is the old "if you were spiritually advanced enough, you would understand, or wouldn't have this problem" line. Could you go into this in more detail? > > > I have stopped doing readings for > >people because for some reason I cannot keep my energy from bleeding off > >and getting sick when I do this. > > "Psychic draining" isn't limited only to psychic readers. It happens > in many of the caring professions. Particularly to those people who > don't properly apply psychic protection techniques. Yes, I am well aware of this. Just because it happens elsewhere, however, it doesn't necessarily follow that the cause is identical. I am not sure what you are trying to tell me here. Sounds like you're being judgemental about poor me and my training and you don't know a thing about me. Tsk, tsk. > > That isn't channeling, but it is a similar problem. > > Moot point. Many readers are doing mental channeling. :-) Mental channelling? What do you mean by that? If it comes through your mind, it's mental. I am unclear on what you mean precisely. I assume you feel any data received from "beyond" that comes to you solely in mental form, without physical manifestation? First, I think your underlying assumption is fundamentally opposed to mine. Basically, I gather that you see all interaction with the non-physical as "channelling". That implies that all thoughts are channelled from elsewhere, too. After all, they don't have a physical base that has yet been determined, and neither has the spirit, or soul - so it is channeled?? I mean, that is the logical extension of your statement. It renders your statements somewhat unworkable for me. My understanding is that the individual is not purely existant in the physical plane The individual is a combination of spiritual parts that are joined in the matrix of the flesh. These spiritual parts, which include your higher or god self, aren't present entirely in your flesh; they manifest through it. I do not think that it is correct to say anything I "read" in the aetheric plane is "channelled" when I receive it through my higher self. If it comes from me, it isn't channeled. > > On the other hand, I have been able to "channel" information and know > >others who have, who are not sharing their flesh with the channelled > >entity, but act more as a secretary taking dictation. > > As I said above. As I rebutted above. > > >This doesn't seem > >to operate in the same way as the in-body channeling, and doesn't seem to > >upset the physical body. A friend of mine has taken down an entire book > >(soon to be published, but I won't plug her here) of akashic records in > >that manner. > > If one is doing "inspired writing" then they are doing mental > channeling. If doing "automatic writing" then their hand is in trance. Okay, I agree. But I am not confident that your three categories cover all the possible types of information. You list mental, physical and partial posession (i.e. automatic writing). But if your higher self feeds you information - like reading the akashic records - is that really channelling? Okay, so this could be construed as splitting hairs, but I think it is an important point, in particular when you imply that one needs to have proper psychic protection any time you receive any psychic information. If I continued with that line of thought, I could come up with the concept that I would need to protect myself psychically from my own thoughts. That sounds like a way to bring on a good case of schizophrenia... I don't disagree with you completely. You make some good points. However, your comments were so terse as to sound patronizing, and I am left with the job of second guessing what you really meant. I can't help but get the impression that you are assuming that your interpretation of how things work is the one true way, as well. Can we dialog here, or do I just get to be preached to? Blessings to you, Debra --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1)