--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E1B00006 Date: 01/05/97 From: JAL KAE Time: 4:15:am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Miracles and Beyond From: "Jal Kae" Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Organization: CyberGate, Inc. Original Date: 4 Jan 1997 23:10:17 -0500 Miracles and Beyond Like everything else, miracles are relative. A miracle to one person is a taken-for-granted fact for another. We find the most illuminating examples of this when a modern society stumbles upon a Stone Age society. Say we present these people with a radio. They hear little people playing music in a compact, oblong box. At least for a moment, this common music-making device is miraculous. Religion is the realm of traditional miracles: levitating saints, walking on water, the appearance of deities. Science is the archenemy of these magical events. Yet, science has a curious reaction to its own unexplain- able discoveries. It say's, "Hmm. . . . This doesn't compute." Then, after failing to explain it rationally, they resign. "Oh, well. I guess that's the way that it is." For example, scientists had set up an experiment to discover the nature of light. Dazzled, they found that light behaved both as a particle *and* as a wave. It can act like either (depending on how you set up the experiment). Rationally, this isn't possible. They have this unmitigated contradiction, but does that slow them down? Nope: They think, "We can't explain it, but there it is. What's next?" Scientists don't label this a miracle, though, because they can repeat the experiment and produce the same results. Instead, it becomes an unfathomable fact. Science has also learned that the basic building blocks of the universe have "a tendency to exist." These subatomic energy/particles fade in and out of existence for the briefest of moments, as if to say, "Oh, would you look at that!" before vanishing into the void. Because the subatomic world is the foundation of the universe, we can say that *the entire universe has a tendency to exist*. Is this a miraculous universe or what? Let's return to traditional miracles. We ask ourselves, "Can a miracle worker bring the dead back to life?" Oops; paramedics do this now. "Okay; then can a magician turn water into wine?" If you answer No, then skip the next question. If you answer Yes, then ask, "How will this event improve my life, the world, or expand my consciousness?" (An exception: If you are ill and modern medicine can't help you, then seeking a miracle makes sense. Because we spend billions of dollars on health care, however, we can expect some practitioners to be fakes. We live on earth; fraud happens.) We can consider two possibilities: either miracles are real or they aren't. First, let's say they aren't. If this is so, then why would a guru, preacher, or anyone do them? The most obvious reason is to gain followers and, consequently, money, power, and fame. A more subtle and positive reason is that they use tricks to attract followers and, once hooked, nourish their flock with spiritual advice. The other possibility is that they are real. Can miracle workers use their power to reduce suffering in the world? Is the ego involved? Many Eastern teachers warn that miracles are a show of power and ego. The phenomena of the astral plane can easily ensnare the gullible. Who needs wonders and why? From a practical perspective, most miracles aren't worth much. Some miracle seekers want to believe in the divine, but have their doubts. They are much like scientists: they want proof that the divine exists. Say that a miracle is proven to be fake or to have a physical explanation. Is a believer so fragile in faith that she will disbelieve in the divine? Or will she look for a new source of these wonders? Ironically, if a miracle turns out to be true, then she no longer is a believer. Where proof exists, belief isn't necessary. Believer: "Wow, you just created a hundred loaves of bread from one loaf! That's a miracle! How did you do that?" Miracle Worker: "God worked through me. I'm just His instrument." Believer: "Great! Now we can feed the world, right? Or better yet, maybe God can give this power to a person in every town! Wow, think of the possibilities!" Miracle Worker: "Actually, He gave me these powers to prove that He exists." Believer: "Well, I already believe in Him. Now, about feeding the world. . . ." Living a miraculous life isn't about doing miracles (unless that's part of your vision). Instead, you tap the power of the universe's "tendency to exist." You unassumingly persuade it to manifest in certain ways. As you suggest endings, it has a tendency to provide the means to get you there. You build a miraculous life without doing miracles; that's the job of the universe. As Light, we are one. Evin Starbuilders ....................................... For more information, e-mail: starbldr@gate.net. Say "subscribe" and I'll send you the latest issue of Starbuilders' periodical, "The Federation Flash." Visit our web site: http://www.lightwork.dk/Starbuilders. Books, tapes, free periodicals, Psychic Power Tools, more. -- As Light, we are one. < "We do our best, Spirit does the rest." > <-----------------------------------------> Evin < Home page: http://www.lightwork.dk/Starbuilders > Starbuilders < Books, tapes, free periodicals, Psychic Power Tools> --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E1B00007 Date: 01/04/97 From: MARY L. ZININI Time: 1:28:am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Aura Goggles Group Buy ??? From: "Mary L. Zinini" Newsgroups: lt.paranet.abduct,alt.paranet.metaphysics,alt.paranet.paranormal, lt.paranet.psi,alt.paranet.science,alt.paranet.skeptic,alt.parane .ufo,alt.paranormal,alt.paranormal.channeling,alt.paranormal.fort Organization: Netcom Original Date: 4 Jan 1997 05:47:57 GMT Dear List: I know we are not supposed to put ads on lists, but I am on the dowsing list and we are all trying to get an order of aura goggles together. We need 12 orders to get the wholesale price of $49.95 plus shipping. These are the good kind made of leather like those old time aviator goggles that they used to wear in open cockpit airplanes. They block out all light except what you see through the special lenses. You are supposed to be able to wear them a little bit each day and the special color in the lenses trains the rods or cones in your eyes to see the ultra violet spectrum, which is where aura vision and astral vision is. From what I have read about aura vision, if you can train yourself to see this you can also use it to see illness coming before it manifests itself in the physical body, tell the mood of someone before approaching them, tell if someone is lying to you, all kinds of things. I can see the auras of trees, most people can but just don't realize it. I thought it was bad vision or something. I would like to develope it better and to see all the colors of the aura. Any interested parties that would like to get in on this group buy, send me message. Thank you Mary --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E1B00008 Date: 01/04/97 From: ANIMALS111 Time: 1:28:am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Channeling/Spiritual Animal Stories Need1:28:35001/04/97 From: "Animals111" Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Original Date: 4 Jan 1997 15:00:08 GMT Spiritual Truths & Lessons Animals Teach Us Have you ever learned spiritual truths or lessons from an animal? Has an animal taught you about gratitude, joy, survival, courage, forgiveness, or unconditional love? Have animals helped you in your dreams or intervened when you were suffering or in pain? Has an animal protected you from danger? Have you continued to feel the presence of an animal who has died? Do you have a story to tell? If so, it would be a privilege to hear it. I'm writing a book about the spiritual truths and lessons animals teach us and I'm looking for stories. Please write your story in first person with a length varying from 1 to 5 double space typed pages. This non-denominational book will include everyday, miraculous, and extraordinary experiences from individuals in all walks of life, ages, different cultures and from a variety of religions and belief systems. This is an opportunity for you to share with others your personal experiences and the awareness or spiritual truth you gained from them. All contributors will be given credits in the book. E-mail: Animals111@aol.com Sincerely, Allen PS: Please e-mail me for additional information about the book and a post address you can send you story if you do not want to e-mail it. --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E1B00009 Date: 01/04/97 From: VBLANCO744 Time: 8:06:am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: New Age Yellow Pages From: "VBlanco744" Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Original Date: 4 Jan 1997 16:26:25 GMT hi: Name: Vilma Blanco, 2516-J West. MacArthur Blvd.,Santa Ana, CA 92704 (714) 540-3803. E-mail address: VBlanco744@aol.com. I do have a fax, but must be called previously to hook up line for transmission. I do tarot, clairvoyance, dream interpretation,some numerology, hypsnosis and past live regression. --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E1B00010 Date: 01/04/97 From: RBRAVER@OHWW.NORMAN.OK.US Time: 8:06:am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: cmsg cancel <5aje1e$348i$92@news-s01.ny.8:06:52001/04/97 From: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Original Date: 4 Jan 1997 17:36:56 GMT Spam cancelled. Notice ID: 19970104.14. See news.admin.net-abuse.announce r http://spam.ohww.norman.ok.us/spam_notices/19970104.14.html for complete report. Original Subject: S&M/SARAH AND MARCY TOGETHER --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E1B00011 Date: 01/04/97 From: BLUE RESONANT HUMAN Time: 8:06:am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: ::: Adama -- Mighty King of TELOS! ::: From: "Blue Resonant Human" Newsgroups: lt.alien.visitors,alt.paranormal.channeling,alt.ascended.masters, alt.mythology.mt-shasta,alt.new-age.bullshit,alt.flame Organization: The Sublime Lodge of the Holy Blue Brethren Original Date: Sat, 04 Jan 1997 22:34:46 GMT ADAMA -- Mighty King of Telos! ============================== ::: Greetings from Telos ::: Greetings from Telos! I AM ADAMA, Ascended Master and High Priest of Telos, a Subterranean City beneath Mt. Shasta in California. I am dictating this message to you from my home beneath the Earth, where over a million of us live in perpetual peace and prosperity. We are human and physical just as you, except for the fact that our mass consciousness holds thoughts of only Immortality and Perfect Health. Therefore, we can live hundreds and even thousands of years in the same body. I, myself, have been in the same body now for over 600 years. We came here over 12,000 years ago before a thermonuclear war took place that destroyed the Earth's surface. We faced such hardships and calamities above ground, that we decided to continue our evolution underground. We appealed to the Spiritual Hierarchy of the planet for permission to renovate the already existing cavern inside Mt. Shasta, and prepare it for the time when we would need to evacuate our homes above ground. When the war was to begin, we were warned by the Spiritual Hierarchy to begin our evacuation to this underground cavern by going through the vast tunnel system that's spread throughout the planet. We had hoped to save all our Lemurian people, but there was only time to save 25 thousand souls. The remainder of our race perished in the blast. For the past 12,000 years, we have been able to rapidly evolve in consciousness due to our isolation from the marauding bands of extraterrestrials and other hostile races that prey on the surface population. The surface population has been experiencing great leaps of consciousness in preparation for humanity to move through the photon belt. It is for this reason that we have begun to contact surface dwellers to make our existence known. For in order for the Earth and Humanity to continue to ascend in consciousness, the whole planet must be united and merged into ONE Light from below and ONE Light from above. It is for this reason that we are contacting you to make you aware of our underground existence, so you can bring the fact of our existence to the attention of our fellow brothers and sisters above ground. Our book of channeled messages is written to humanity, in hopes that they will recognize and receive us when we emerge from our homes beneath ground and merge with them on the surface, in the not too far distant future. We will be grateful to you for the part you play in helping us broadcast the reality of our existence. We thank you. In the name of the One Creator of All, I AM ADAMA ::: I AM Adama ::: Adama is from Lemuria, an ancient civilization. At the time, of Lemuria's height, Adama was an initiate in the Temples that were prominent at that time. After the destruction of Lemuria by Atlantis, Adama went underground with thousands of others, to establish Telos. Adama is not different from you, although I am hundreds of years old by now. So I have made the benefit of many life times woven into ONE. This has given me great insight and great wisdom, which most people don't begin to gather until the end of their short life span. So, living so many years definitely has its benefits. For me, I can astral travel to anywhere I desire. I can also tele- communicate to anyone in any locality of time and space. These are all things that everyone in Telos can do, because we've had the benefit of lifetimes of practice. So, Adama is not so different, just more experienced on how to use life's opportunities. You, on the surface, are situated ABOVE us, and BELOW the Ashtar Command. You are receiving LIGHT from above and below. You are between two great forces of Light. We here in Telos, watch over your surface population very carefully, monitoring your movements and reporting back to our councils. We know all that occurs on the Earth's surface. We embrace the Light as it dawns each day, and bless the darkness as it descends on our homes. We bless all of life's activities. We bless this great planet and all its life forms. We are grateful to be a part of this grand experiment. We are grateful to be a part of the Earth's great training ground where we are all being schooled in life's evolutionary process. Someday soon we are anticipating our emergence unto the surface. We await for this time -- we pray for this time -- when we can be reunited with our brothers and sisters again. In the glory of the Light of God that is unfolding on the Earth plane. I AM ADAMA, and my love goes forth to you. Adonai. ::: How do you get to the underground city in Mt. Shasta? ::: A: Through the tunnels of course which are strictly guarded and camouflaged. Only our own people know the way. Soon, you too, will be given directions to locate us, and you will be met by one of us who will lead you through the underground tunnels to our city. It isn't far, just a mile beneath the ground, and once you're safely in the tunnels, there are conveyances that will take you the rest of the way. We wait for this day, we pray for this day, which soon will be here. Thank you for this question. ADAMA note : Mt. Shasta is very rough terrain. There have been serious accidents on the loose rock.. Do not go wandering/ climbing in this area without an experienced guide. You may practice astral traveling there. Greetings from Telos, your sister city under Mt. Shasta in California, where over a million of us dwell. We reside here because the Earth is still too dense for us to travel to the surface. We await the time of less density and greater light, before we attempt to travel to the surface en masse. You will be amazed at the technologies that we will bring, for they will make life so simplified for you and so obvious, that you'll wonder how you didn't think of these things yourself. Well, you did, only it was eons ago in the past, and your memories don't recall them. We are all part of God's grand plan for the Universe, and WE ARE NOW MERGING OUR THOUGHTS INTO ONE THOUGHT FOR THE ENTIRE HUMAN RACE. Soon we will all be on the same wave band of consciousness, broadcasting our love and light to all in the cosmos and letting the cosmos know that we are ready to join with them in one grand FEDERATION OF PLANETS. This is Adama, wishing you a speedy journey in consciousness. ::: Telos Works Closely with the Melchizedek Priesthood ::: Know that it is very "Light" here in Telos. Our Light is so bright that it lights up the Earth and the Heavens. We work closely with the Melchizedek Priesthood who are here to serve the Earth. We are very concerned about the progress that humanity is making on the surface. We, here in Telos, are very involved in the Earth's Ascension into greater Light. In Telos, we are Spiritual Warriors, as you on the surface must become. A Spiritual Warrior is one who acknowledges the Light within, and knows he/she is here for the purpose of bringing in more Light to Earth. So you are all here to bring in the Light. You do this by focusing on the light, always, and never letting it drift away from you. Visualize the Light as waves from the ocean, always coming in to you, and washing out the darkness. You are all great Light Beings who have come to earth, just as Adama has, to reunite all humanity into ONE HUMAN FAMILY. Adama has gained much wisdom from his extended life in Telos, and would like to impart this wisdom to others who wish to learn from him. Adama is currently conducting classes on the Inner Planes at night. If you'd like to register for these classes, just petition Adama before you go to bed at night asking to be his student. Adama will teach you mastery of yourself on all levels of existence. Adonai my Beloved. ::: The Great Central Sun ::: I speak to you today of the Glory of God -- the God that resides in you. You are the receptacle of God. You hold God's Light -- and your Light is so bright even if your are unable to see your own Light. Here in Telos, we are able to see each other's Light. We have developed our Inner Vision through meditation and prayer for aeons, until we reached this stage. You, too, are now on the brink of reaching this stage; the "time" when you clearly see the Light around you and the Light in others, as it reflects from the Central Sun into the core of your Being. YOUR SOUL IS LIGHT; and when you merge with your I AM PRESENCE, you bring the LIGHT from the Great Central Sun into the core, and you shine with the intensity of the Great Central Sun within you. For the Great Central Sun and you are ONE. We, here in Telos, learned this many aeons ago. Through our long life spans we were able to connect to the Cosmos in a higher frequency of Light and we were able to sustain this connection because we are not filled with thoughts of death or aging as you still are on the surface. Therefore, all we learned, we sustained; and what we all sustained enabled us to climb higher on the spiral of Life Immortal. So, we too will be celebrating the 12:12 event, and we invite you to join with us, here in Telos, as we will be joining with you on the surface. Travel with us, on the Divine Path to God Acknowledging your Divinity every step of the way As we step together One step from Below and one step from Above In the Divine walk through life, Meeting as one in the Stars ADAMA - - - - - TELEPATHIC Messages(tm) Received from ADAMA(c) in Telos(c), Channeled(tm) by LAILEL(c) copyright 1995 by "Dianne Robbins"(c) http://www.onelight.com/telos/adama.html LAILEL@aol.com YOU ARE ALL LIGHT AS WE ARE ALL LIGHT AND SOON OUR TWO LIGHTS WILL MERGE INTO ONE GREAT LIGHT OF PLANETARY ASCENSION Buckets of Love and Light from Telos Brought to you by Brother Blue, B:.B:. Telosian Initiate of the Great Central Sun http://www.users.cts.com/sd/d/density4/index.html --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E1B00012 Date: 01/04/97 From: 43207@S01.COM Time: 12:0:am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: **TRY A PSYCHIC TOLL FREE / SAMPLES LINE0:20:34001/04/97 From: 43207@s01.com Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Original Date: Sun, 05 Jan 1997 10:50:42 GMT CALL OUR NUMBER TOLL FREE AND LISTEN BEFORE YOU DECIDE. SAMPLE OUR PSYCHICS - WE'RE CONFIDENT YOU'LL ASK FOR MORE. DIAL 1-888-253-7135. ADULTS OVER 18. --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E1B00013 Date: 01/04/97 From: ROBERT BRAVER Time: 12:0:am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: cmsg cancel <5amlhs$2als$29@news-s01.ny.0:20:35001/04/97 From: "Robert Braver" Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Original Date: 4 Jan 1997 23:59:31 GMT Spam cancelled. Autocancel spam type: IBM800770 Original Subject: **TOPS AND BOTTOMS/LIVE GIRLS - 1-800-860-9250 --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E1B00014 Date: 01/05/97 From: JIM SHAFFER, JR. Time: 3:02:am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Aura Goggles Group Buy ??? From: "Jim Shaffer, Jr." Newsgroups: lt.paranet.abduct,alt.paranet.metaphysics,alt.paranet.paranormal, lt.paranet.psi,alt.paranet.science,alt.paranet.skeptic,alt.parane .ufo,alt.paranormal,alt.paranormal.channeling,alt.paranormal.fort Organization: Unconventional Conventionalists Original Date: 5 Jan 1997 05:32:12 GMT Charles Gregory wrote in article <5amrcu$ht1@main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca>... > Firstly, I want to point out that I am NOT just a "skeptic" telling you to > save your money. I am what most skeptics would call a "believer". Someone > quite close to me can occasionally see "auras" and can also see other > interesting things WITH HER EYES CLOSED. Auras are not seen by the eyes, > They are "overlaid" like a light on a pane of glass or a "heads up > display". Those goggles won't help because scientific examinations have > already shown that there is no electromagnetic "frequency" on which any > sort of "aura" can be detected. Before Chuck Shramek got into his Hale-Bopp delusion, he was photographing auras on some sort of special CCD by zapping people with Tesla coils. For further details, see http://www.keelynet.com -- "I don't want the world -- I just want your half." --T.M.B.G. --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1)