--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: DGW00006 Date: 12/16/96 From: CORIANDER Time: 02:06pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Internet Download Stuff Here What is all this junk? I have been off of the board for a few weeks and when I come back there is ll this nonsensical stuff about Oriens and Pledians and Andromodeans and Nemesis (whatever the hell that is) and lightbodies and density... Density, that is definately the word for it all. Do all you people post this ~channeling" stuff for kicks or what? You must really think we are a bunch of complete nimrods. Get a life. There are NO ANDROMEDEANS or PLEADIEANS out there fighting a war in our solar system. Boy are the beings on the ~astral~ having fun with you. HEE...HEE....HEE....HEE.... 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PLEASE DO NOT SEND ME MONEY,DO NOT PARTICIPATE IN THIS CHAIN-THING I hope this will get to those that have read my posting, sorry... peter --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E1200001 Date: 12/26/96 From: MGATOR Time: 3:00:am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: New Age Yellow Pages From: "MGator" Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Original Date: 27 Dec 1996 02:32:45 GMT If you own, know of, or belong to a New Age business, clinic, or group and would like to be listed in a New, New Age Director please emai us with the following: Name: Address: Phone#: and ( if possible ) Email: Fax: If you are interested in learning how to get a New Directory Email the same address. Mgator@aol.com --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E1200002 Date: 12/27/96 From: MICHAEL TURNER Time: 12:8:am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Christmas Eve Satsang - 1995 (by Michael0:08:37012/27/96 From: "Michael Turner" Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling,alt.paranormal Organization: Midnight Sun Communications Original Date: 27 Dec 1996 03:27:38 GMT CHRISTMAS EVE SATSANG by Sri Michael Turner December 24, 1995 This being Christmas Eve, we're going to - amazingly enough - discuss the story of Christmas, which we've all probably done in Sunday school once or twice in our lives. But it seems appropriate, so I'm going to do it. And I'm even going to read from this old, old book called The Holy Bible. This is the King James Version here. I'm going to read from the book of Luke, chapter 2. This is probably one of the classic readings held in the Christmas time. "And it came to pass in those days, that there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus that all the world should be taxed. (And this taxing was first made when Cyrenius was governor of Syria.) And all went to be taxed, every one into his own city. And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judaea, unto the city of David, which is called Bethlehem, (because he was of the house and lineage of David) to be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being great with child. And so it was that, while they were there, the days were accomplished that she should be delivered. And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn. And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night. And, lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them; and they were sore afraid. And the angel said unto them, Fear not; for, behold, I bring you tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people. For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Savior, which is Christ the Lord. And this shall be a sign unto you; Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger.' And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying, Glory to God in the highest and on earth peace, good will toward men.' And it came to pass, as the angels were gone away from then into heaven, the shepherds said to one another, Let us now go even unto Bethlehem, and see this thing which is come to pass, which the Lord hath made known unto us. And they came with haste, and found Mary and Joseph, and the babe lying in the manger. And when they had seen it, they made known abroad the saying which was told them concerning this child. And all they that heard it wondered at those things which were told them by the shepherds. But Mary kept all these things, and pondered them in her heart. And the shepherds returned, glorifying and praising God for all the things that they had heard and seen, as it was told unto them." A short reading today; but it's a good place to start. Now the Christ story is pretty amazing. It's an image that has survived 2,000 years, and the basic story has remained intact most of that time. It's traveled the planet. It's affected every culture. And it is truly remarkable the impact that one great soul can make in his or her lifetime. In just over thirty years, this man achieved God-realization, helped his disciples to get close to It, and re-framed the whole paradigm of spirituality in the Middle East, and for the whole planet. I cannot over- emphasize the impact of Jesus, as both a Satguru and a human being, and as a thinker. Before his time, in the Middle East the Jews had been articulating the concept of monotheism. They're probably singular among people on the planet in really propounding the concept of one God - Ek Ankar. The Zoroasterians approached it to some extent, but there was still somewhat a theme of nature worship, based upon their own tribal traditions. But the Jewish people had a very strong ethic of a singular spiritual principle that superceded all others. I read a couple of books on comparative religions about a year-and-a-half ago, one by Huston Smith and one by somebody else - I forget who it is, I've got it here someplace. And it was really quite fascinating, because if you read the Bible - and we all know most of the Bible stories, I would assume, of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph and his coat of many colors, Adam & Eve, Noah and the Ark, Moses . There is an impression of continuity that goes along the whole time. But what they found through scholastic research was that the Hebrew people, up until the time of Abraham (who was a historical figure), were divided between various forms of nature worship and idol worship, and some sense of a superseding power. And through a series of Divine experiences, transfigurations, visitations by angels - whatever you want to call them - Abraham was transformed. His name was "Abram," then he became "Abraham." And the single principle which was very strongly impressed upon him was that there is one God. In the Middle East they said his name was "Yahweh" or "Jehovah." Now, even with this happening, there was still a strong sense of nature worship and stuff like that. And so you found that the one God which the Hebrews worshipped at the time - and for centuries afterwards, up through the time of David and Saul and the prophet Samuel and this whole thing - was like a victory god. He was a military god. It wasn't many gods - it was one. But it was a butt-kicking god who loved his people, but would also really mess with their heads if they displeased him. And this became a cornerstone to the faith for the subsequent centuries and millennia. The Hebrews had this pattern of getting it together, and then having it torn asunder, and then getting it together again. I mean, this whole area - Syria, Palestine, Judea, Jordan - this whole area was constantly in a tumultuous state. It wasn't really an agrarian society; it was a nomadic society. There were some areas where they raised grain and stuff, but there was a lot of sheep-herding and stuff like that. And it wasn't particularly stable, over all. People were fighting wars, and you had these big open plains where new armies could come riding in and just trample you into the ground. So you had the Jewish people going into captivity in Babylon, then they got out - and then another tribe came in and took them over, and they got out again. It was going back and forth, and they always felt it was the judgment of God - along with a sense of "Why me?" So there was a very strong faith they had in their god, but there was also a bit of perplexity. Along comes Jesus - 2,000 years ago - a single individual who's looking at centuries - millennia - of cultural tradition. And just like Guru Nanak in his late teens being lifted up out of his body and taken to the Soul Plane for three days and then being brought back down, Jesus had a transfiguring inner experience which re-framed the entire dialogue, the entire game plan, in which he said, "Yes, there is One God. But It is a God of love, not vengeance. It is a God of hope, not terror. It is a God of charity, not selfishness. It is a God of compassion, not punishment. All the rules of the game that we've been playing - all these rules are made by man." He said the same thing every master has ever said, every true living master. Religions are made by men. But spirituality is borne of God, and God alone. He caught a bunch of flack for healing people on the Sabbath, for doing works. They said, "You're not following the rules that have been established." And he said, "What are these rules? Will God allow someone to die when he can be healed, just because it's the Sabbath?" He told the holy men, the preachers, the Saducees, the Pharisees, the Sanhedrin, the big mucky mucks in the church, that this entire edifice of a church is for naught, if you don't have love in your heart. He said, "Don't pray in public. Don't make a big show of it. Don't try to impress people with your piety and your holiness. Go to the temple within. Find that wave of love in the heart center. Open the inner door, the archway of the inner temple to see the Light and hear the Sound, to hear the Voice of God. And this was truly astounding. Even his cousin, who as known as "John the Baptist," was old school. He was telling the powers-that-be that, "Something big's comin' - you better watch out. There's a big wave heading your way. So either you better be able to surf it, or head to the high ground or else you'll drown in it." But he was still the old school, just like Ezekiel, Jeremiah, Isaih and Elijah (of whom it is said that John the Baptist was a reincarnation, coming back to forewarn people that there was a big thing comin'). And everybody was expecting a big military hero, just like now. They're expecting some guy to come out of the sky, in the Second Coming, on a horse (or space ship) - this big white horse, with a sword that's going to smite down all of the evil doers and save the redeemed. But where did Jesus come from? He was born of a simple carpenter family, in a stable - not in the best hospital in town - not in the temple. Who came to visit Him? Who were the first people to come visit Him, besides the animals in the barnyard? It wasn't the high priest, it wasn't the Sanhedrin, it wasn't the king of Judea. It was simple shepherds, some poor shepherds - people just sitting out tending their flocks, trying to make ends meet. And they had a very powerful experience witnessing a star lighting up the sky. The inner door opened and they heard the Voice, they heard the Ringing Radiance of the Lord. And they went to a simple stable, to see a simple child who was born of a simple family - whose message was an exceedingly simple one: "Be Love." Everybody was expecting victory over the Romans, or Syrians or whatever oppressor was the tyrant of the time keeping God's people down. But what was offered instead was far, far more powerful. It was a victory over fear, a victory over doubt, a victory over dejection and death. It was the ultimate victory, being able to consciously tap into the Inner Voice of Divine Love, and let It lift you up - let go to It and just allow It to lift you up into ItSelf, and purify you and cleanse you. It was the ultimate victory of approaching God - and the Holy Spirit - like a virgin on her wedding day (as Kabir would say) and allowing It to penetrate and give birth to a new human instrument of God-in-Expression. This one man, in a very short lifetime, accomplished so much that still reverberates. Even with all the problems that the Christian Church has laid on us - all the wars that are fought for faith, the Crusades, the Christian Serbs versus the Bosnian Muslims, all these things - overall, the impact has been so powerfully good, that it's just amazing. The law of compassion. The law of forgiveness. The law of not judging others until you've judged yourself - of non-criticism. Because, no matter how heinous another person is, I guarantee you each of us has equally sinned in our own ways. I know that's a very unfashionable term to use, but we all make our own grievous errors in live, and it is important to acknowledge our faults, to bow before the alter of the Divine and ask for forgiveness. And when somebody does injury to you, instead of seeking vengeance or justice, offer forgiveness and love and kindness. Like begets like. And there's a lot of people in the world today, because we live in very uncertain times, crime rates are high, people are being violent to each other. People are killing each other in really awful ways. I'm not sure if it's more than it used to be - I think maybe that with instant communication in this information age we're just more aware of the basic heinousness that goes on between human beings. But a lot of people say, "Ah, yes, an eye for an eye! You commit injury, I'll commit injury back. I'll show you." What you find though is that there is far more than enough negativity in this world. What does it solve if somebody takes a life and you take their life? You're just adding to the cycle of death. They have to answer to God. Instead of adding to the cycle of fear and hatred and death and pain, why not add to a cycle of love and hope and redemption - belief - laughter? Very simple things, so exceedingly simple. All articulated by a simple carpenter. This guy hung out. He traveled around a bit, learned some things, but mostly just went within and took the time to really penetrate the veil, seeking the truth - knowing that it would upset people, because a lot of people had a vested interest in perpetuating the organization. It had a trajectory. It had a track record. The didn't want to upset the apple cart. What possible good could it do to get people all freaked out? His followers probably never numbered more than a few hundred at most. The serious ones were probably more like just a few dozen - the twelve, and then some hangers-on, a few in the outer circle - during his entire life. Little clusters of 20 here and 20 there. Because he laid his life on the line for something he believed in, and proved through an empirical test, that the self is not the body - the self is eternal - He transformed the planet. Now, a lot of people - this might be more appropriate for an Easter message, but what the heck - a lot of people try to find some way of explaining the resurrection. There's a couple of very common theses that go on, one of which is that He died and then manifested an astral body for people to see. The other, which is far more popular these days, is that He didn't die. He was drugged with some opiate in the vinegar which they put on the sponge on the Roman centurion's staff they raised up to His lips as He was on the cross. And it put Him into a coma. So, by all intents and purposes, it appeared that He was dead. Then He was revived a couple of days later and patched up. It amazes me. This is a very common, a very popular thing in the new age community these days, and other so-called scholarly circles. And it astounds me, that people need to find a rational explanation. They can't simply believe. "Oh ye of little faith. You believe because you have seen. Blessed are they who have not seen, yet still believe." There is a story of a Roman centurion who came into contact with Christ just prior to His death. This is when He was in Jerusalem for the Passover. And the centurion came to Him - Jesus was in the temple - and he was very upset because one of his servants was gravely ill. And he wanted Jesus to come heal him. And Jesus said, "Should I come with you?" And the Roman said, "No. Just say the word, and I know it will be done." And Jesus looked around at His disciples and his friends and said, "Look at this man. This is a Roman. This is the 'enemy.' This is the enemy, and yet this person - who is part of the opposing team - has the faith of the mustard seed. He has far more faith than most of my closest followers - because he knows the power of God." The Power of God-in- Action, of the Shabd, of the Inner Master, transcends all space and time in this universe, and in all universes. It manifests ItSelf everywhere. It's pretty amazing. I guess I'm kind of dwelling on Jesus a bit because I want to make it clear. as Kirpal said so many times - so, so many times - that we do honor all masters who have come in the past. And it is extremely important to do so, whether it is Jesus or Buddha or Mohammed or Krishna, or Sawan Singh, or Paul Twitchell, regardless of their space-time continuum. Just because they're no longer living, does not mean that we should forget what they had to say and what they had to offer. Because what you find is that the true masters have a continuity in their basic core message. It's an unbroken chain of love and wisdom that has always manifested itself on this planet. There has never been a time when It has not been in expression on some level. And so, on this Christmas eve, as people all over the planet - people in every country on earth - gather to worship, so it is important that we do as well. We go to that temple within and say, "Right on God! Right on Jesus!" It's a very special day. Let's take time for another short meditation. --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: E1200003 Date: 12/26/96 From: 43207@S01.COM Time: 7:15:am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: **Are You Desperately Seeking Pleasure? 7:15:01712/26/96 From: 43207@s01.com Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Original Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 12:06:51 GMT Hot, wild and FREE! Meet the high spirited ladies who want to share their hottest desires with you. DIAL TOLL FREE AT: 1-800-770-6110. 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