--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: DFZ00002 Date: 11/28/96 From: STEPHEN VOISEY Time: 6:23:am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Worlwide Meditation for Love, Novemb6:23:53711/28/96 From: "Stephen Voisey" Newsgroups: lt.meditation,alt.consciousness,alt.tarot,alt.paranet.metaphysics ,talk.religion.newage,alt.paranormal.channeling Organization: U-NET limited Original Date: 27 Nov 1996 22:23:57 GMT Perhaps, like all things, mediation is not a constant, and is different for all. Evolving, like a flower in spring? Only to die in autumn, we shall see. Gratcia Stephen --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: DFZ00003 Date: 11/28/96 From: JIA@CHANNELU.COM Time: 6:23:am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: To protect or not to protect From: jia@channelu.com Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Organization: Michigan State University Original Date: 28 Nov 1996 05:32:38 GMT In <329ec7ee.9016927@news.melbpc.org.au> John Fitzsimons wrote: > On 21 Nov 96 18:34:22 +0500, Paul Maplesden > wrote: > > < snip > > > >Indeed, > >However, my only concern is that the 'Protection' issue may place too much of > >an emphasis on 'Duality.' I very much understand what you mean when you say > >that the protection is free so why skimp on it, but the thing that I need to > >ask is what are we protecting ourselves from? > > People who may work against us on psychic levels as well as discordant > thought-forms. > > >My point is that if we are to see that there are things out there that need to > >be protected against, we are effectively giving some of our power away, and > >believing ourselves weaker than we actually are, if you understand my meaning. > > Perhaps you could make your point clearer by answering the following > questions ? > > (1) Do you "protect" yourself from burglars by locking up your > residence when you aren't at home ? > > Or do you consider this" giving some of our power away" > > (2) Do you "protect" yourself from car stealers by locking up your car > (if you had/have one) when you aren't in it ? > > Or do you consider this" giving some of our power away" > > >If we are to believe in the 'Oneness' of all things, then to see chanelling as > >an 'us and them' process only seeks to divide us from the world of Spirit, > >instead of seeing the interconnectedness of all things and the beauty, > >immortality and invulnerability of our own Souls. At least, IMHO! > > If you object to the notion of negative people and positive people > then do you believe that all police forces should be disbanded ? After > all they are stronly founded on a "good guy", "bad guy" principle. > > Regards, John. seems like i caught the tailend of some discussion here, but felt strong enough to add my piece: frankly, i'm ready to hold a ritual and blow a good-bye kiss to the duality push me-pull you rollercoaster. to this last question of john's, i say indeed and amen: i envision and wait for the day when police forces will disband by their own volition, due to the fact that people -- by their own individual "volitions" -- will discover a wellspring of self-reliance and not require police mentality or brutality (good guy/bad guy) to get along. i see this movement already happening around me. i feel it to be true that not until we let go of this old duality game within ourselves will we see it vanish before us, though. i myself am working on being a "good guy" all the time, with the knowledge that i don't need -- or want -- to infringe upon any other person's life, space, or possessions to attain happiness and health. why would i want a fellow being on my home planet to feel pain or be"without" when we all share energy space and feel it? i believe we have every right to live as we see fit. it's encrypted in the U.S. constitution. we have just sold and enslaved ourselves to outside controlling entities, and this makes my heart heavy with sadness. as soon as we understand how divine and empowered we as individuals -- and as a collective -- really are, we can put the government and the justice system out of business. and they'll be free to run and romp and play with the rest of us! i don't think anyone really wants to be a "bad guy." truly it is up to us, though. can we take them or leave them? ask yourself what you can do for yourself. (we usually sell ourselves short.) at a family reunion once, two uncles got drunk, shared some words, and became physically violent with each other. my family the tribe observed and gossiped much about it later, but nobody ever policed them, told them what they "should do," nor did anybody restrain or punish them in any manner. it was their deal -- not ours. they as individuals dealt with the consequences and have learned from it. no "problem" to be solved. just growth and movement. life goes on and Spirit teaches. may we all find the "good guy" within ourselves . . . [{(*)}] --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: DFZ00004 Date: 11/28/96 From: SHOT Time: 6:23:am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Meditation Reply-to: ghemr@mail.idt.net From: "shot" Newsgroups: lt.meditation,alt.consciousness,alt.tarot,alt.paranet.metaphysics ,talk.religion.newage,alt.paranormal.channeling Organization: The Happy One Original Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 01:17:57 -0800 Jennifer Taylor wrote: > > Now i get it. You gave all the big talk just to attract people to this > so called world mediation ?. Don't you know that Meditation is a personal > thing and cannot be done in groups ?. Groups one stunt the progress!. > How evolved are you ?. Which meditation stage are youon ?. > > 1st, 2nd, 3rd , 4th, 5th, or 6th ?. > I don't know who these people are, but you can do mediatation in groups. You may have heard some Share people talk about "transmission meditation." It is part of BC's service to introduce it to the world. It was given to him by his master in the '70s. --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: DFZ00005 Date: 11/28/96 From: S Time: 12:7:am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Worlwide Meditation for Love, Novemb0:47:52711/28/96 From: "S" Newsgroups: lt.meditation,alt.consciousness,alt.tarot,alt.paranet.metaphysics ,talk.religion.newage,alt.paranormal.channeling Organization: University of Hawaii Original Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 15:02:09 -1000 Methinks your definition of meditation is too narrow, lass. You are only placing limitations on yourself. S Jennifer Taylor wrote: > > Now i get it. You gave all the big talk just to attract people to this > so called world mediation ?. Don't you know that Meditation is a personal > thing and cannot be done in groups ?. Groups one stunt the progress!. > How evolved are you ?. Which meditation stage are youon ?. > > 1st, 2nd, 3rd , 4th, 5th, or 6th ?. --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: DFZ00006 Date: 11/28/96 From: JAMES E. TRACY Time: 12:7:am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: ANTI-GRAVITY - news.txt [1/1] From: "James E. Tracy" Newsgroups: lt.paranet,alt.paranet.abduct,alt.paranet.forteana,alt.paranet.me aphysics,alt.paranet.paranormal,alt.paranet.psi,alt.paranet.scien e,alt.paranet.skeptic,alt.paranet.ufo,alt.paranormal,alt.paranorm Organization: Project Omicron Original Date: 27 Nov 1996 23:25:58 GMT HI ALL: A new proposition has been released at: http://www.cwo.com/~omicron/prop004.html It regards a formula for why gravitation can be controlled. Check it out. A new proposition is also in the works that deals with an experiment that will prove upsetting to relativity and the way Maxwells equations have been interpreted. This is proposition 013 and is in the works. Advance DRAFTs of the proposition are available by requesting PROP013.WPD from omicron@cwo.com. SINCERELY, +------------------------------------------+ | JAMES E. TRACY | | Project Omicron Administrator | | Sacramento, CA | | omicron@cwo.com | +------------------------------------------+ | http://www.cwo.com/~omicron/index.html | | -OR- request WWWSITE.ZIP via E-mail | +------------------------------------------+ | This is the place where the problem of | | GRAVITY Control WILL BE SOLVED | +------------------------------------------+ --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: DFZ00007 Date: 11/28/96 From: GIBRA HACKATHORN Time: 12:7:am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Spiritual Contact From: "Gibra Hackathorn" Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Organization: Multiverse Original Date: 26 Nov 1996 20:19:27 GMT My name is Gibra Hackathorn and I was wondering if anyone knew any ways of contacting spirits other than Ouija boards,mediums,and auto writing.I would appreaciate any help anyone could give me.Thanx. Gibra Hackathorn (aka:ChAoS) paulhack@interlaced.net --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1)