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Original Date: 13 Nov 1996 02:22:42 GMT The Vacuum Lady (badboys33@geocities.com) wrote: : wayne@msu.co.uk wrote: : > OK, All you amazing telepaths if 'you' 'beleive' so much in your : > skill's then simply take the 'James Randi' on : > http://www.randi.org/jr/chall.html : I'm not a telepath (at least I don't think I am), but perhaps some of : them here don't feel they have to go and prove it to the high and mighty : James Rhandi... Actually, because most psychic abilties are NOT "perform on demand" sorts of things, but extraordinary PHENOMENA that occur irregularly and without warning, there is no more use demanding proof of someone's abilities than there is demanding that someone prove lightning is "real" by insisting that they drag it into a lab to make it perform on demand. Certainly, small scale electricity can be generated, and so also can "small" psychic effects be consistently measured. But these results are questionable because the scale is nothing like that claimed for the "big powers". Now mix in the THOUSANDS of "psychics" who make extravagant claims for all sorts of powers. These are so easily refutable, I have no problem understanding Mr. Randi's firm convictions on these subjects. I am just a bit surprised that in all the years that he has been investigating, he has never seen ANY "improbable" phenomena, for which the usual excuses of fraud and delusion could be ruled out. MY personal experience tells me one thing, but it seems that Mr. Randi's experiences say another. Those on one side or the other would suggest that someone is "deluded" or "blinding" themselves to "good data". But I have seen Mr. Randi at work. He always seems to be running into people that are fakes or severely deluded. The only thing I can think of is that he only investigates claims of "repeatable" phenomena, and this leads to the obvious failure to note the "real" random phenomena. So, presuming that convincing someone of this is necessary, how might it be done? How could we set up a recording/observing kind of situation that would be considered "trustworthy" by those who have seen far too many quacks and fools? How do we get lightning into the lab? - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Charles Gregory E-Mail: charles@freenet.hamilton.on.ca Home Page: [J]ump to "http://www.freenet.hamilton.on.ca/~ab801/Profile.html" --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: DFK00036 Date: 11/14/96 From: CHRIS LEWIS Time: 8:54:am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: cmsg cancel <56f89l$2vb@usenet4.interram8:54:00011/14/96 From: "Chris Lewis" Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Original Date: 14 Nov 1996 18:11:44 GMT WEBSEX spam cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca Original Subject: Free Tour! Hot, Naked Guys! VISIT: http://www.playgirlmag.com --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: DFK00037 Date: 11/14/96 From: FYI@PSINET.COM Time: 8:54:am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: !!Come join us for some HOT OPEN SLIT!! From: fyi@psinet.com Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Organization: PSI Public Usenet Link Original Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 11:07:03 GMT HEY GUYS! There's hot SLIT, open and waiting for you - explicit photos, hot audio tracks, sizzling sex stories and more. Try it FREE! Adults 18 and over, VISIT: http://www.nwnt.com/slit --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: DFK00038 Date: 11/14/96 From: BILL STAPLETON Time: 8:54:am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: cmsg cancel Newsgroups: lt.peace.corps,alt.peace,alt.peace-corps,alt.parents-teens,alt.pa enting.twins-triplets,alt.parenting.spanking,alt.parenting.soluti ns,alt.paranormal.pyramid,alt.paranormal.crop-circles,alt.paranor Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee Original Date: 14 Nov 1996 19:10:52 GMT Reason cancelled: No Make Money Schemes Here Please --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: DFK00039 Date: 11/15/96 From: DAN PRESSNELL Time: 12:9:am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: We`re all telepaths -- Including Jam0:49:13011/15/96 From: "Dan Pressnell" Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling,alt.paranormal,sci.skeptic Organization: Somewhere in Oregon, I guess! Original Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 18:37:08 -0800 dwilz@cix.compulink.co.uk ("Daniel Wilson") wrote: > Randi can be subverted by affirmation. This was proved in 1992 when he > ran what was supposed to be a debunking programme on dowsers on British > TV. The dowsers (or some of them) conferred beforehand and set up a > "protection" so that they could perform normally. Result, three out of > four tests proved dowsing. Randi tried to pull the programme, the > producer refused and witnesses say "he threw a wobbler" in the control > room. What program was this? How did the dowsers set up "protection"? Do you have any more details than this? Dan --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: DFK00040 Date: 11/15/96 From: DASHE@INSCAPE.COM Time: 12:9:am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: "The Richard Horne Papers" From: dashe@inscape.com Newsgroups: lt.paranormal,alt.ufo.reports,alt.paranormal.channeling,alt.consp iracy Organization: PSI Public Usenet Link Original Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 17:26:22 +0100 A mysterious message was transmitted. Find out what it means. Read "The Richard Horne Papers" p://www.inscape.com/drownedgod/society.html --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: DFK00041 Date: 11/15/96 From: MARK SOPER Time: 12:9:am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: We`re all telepaths -- Including Jam0:49:14011/15/96 Reply-to: mesoaper@ix.netcom.com From: "Mark Soper" Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling,alt.paranormal,sci.skeptic Organization: Netcom Original Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 17:45:23 -0800 Dan Pressnell wrote: > > dwilz@cix.compulink.co.uk ("Daniel Wilson") wrote: > > > Randi can be subverted by affirmation. This was proved in 1992 when he > > ran what was supposed to be a debunking programme on dowsers on British > > TV. The dowsers (or some of them) conferred beforehand and set up a > > "protection" so that they could perform normally. Result, three out of > > four tests proved dowsing. Randi tried to pull the programme, the > > producer refused and witnesses say "he threw a wobbler" in the control > > room. > > What program was this? How did the dowsers set up "protection"? Do you > have any more details than this? > > Dan I'm sorry to butt in here, being new on the block and all, but I couldn't help wondering what the heck "dowsers' protection" is? Do you put a condom on the end of your dowsing rod???? "Practice safe dowsing" will be my motto for now and for ever. Also, anyone wanting the *true* story of how the dowsers made out on the BBC (and how their own British Dowsing organization chickened out), it's in "James Randi: Psychic Investigator" (And Dan, I am *really* sorry about sending this to your e-mail....I told you I was new, but in punishment, I'm going out and whack myself over the head a few times with a dowsing rod) Mrs. Nesbitt (borrowing Marks' computer so don't yell at him) --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: DFK00042 Date: 11/15/96 From: CHRIS LEWIS Time: 12:9:am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: cmsg cancel <56fnpe$ljs@usenet11.interra0:49:14011/15/96 From: "Chris Lewis" Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Original Date: 15 Nov 1996 02:07:51 GMT WEBSEX spam cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca Original Subject: !!Come join us for some HOT OPEN SLIT!! --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: DFK00043 Date: 11/15/96 From: THORUBOS Time: 7:42:am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: "The Richard Horne Papers" From: "Thorubos" Originally to: dashe@inscape.com Newsgroups: lt.paranormal,alt.ufo.reports,alt.paranormal.channeling,alt.consp iracy Organization: University of Wisconsin-Madison Original Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 00:16:41 -0600 dashe@inscape.com wrote: > > A mysterious message was transmitted. Find out what it means. > Read "The Richard Horne Papers" http://www.inscape.com/drownedgod/society.html PLEASE do not use this site to help you make a quick buck! i was considering purchasing "drowned god", but now i wonder. i know that conspiracy is all hip, cool, and x-filesy, but your verisimilitude is taxing to already frayed sanities. if you wish to post ads for a computer game, then please make it clear that you are doing so... these are my opinions, i do not claim to speak for the ng alt.conspiracy. thorubos --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1)