--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: DFJ00016 Date: 11/09/96 From: SCIENZA@PIANETA.IT Time: 5:59:am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: ................... Reply-to: scienza@pianeta.it From: scienza@pianeta.it Newsgroups: lt.paranet.abduct,alt.paranet.metaphysics,alt.paranet.paranormal, lt.paranet.psi,alt.paranet.science,alt.paranet.skeptic,alt.parane .ufo,alt.paranormal,alt.paranormal.channeling,alt.pave.the.earth, Organization: Italia Com - Il Primo Consorzio di Internet Providers italiani Original Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 15:30:45 +0100 INTERNET Some people prefear to go on thinking that the Einsteins relativity theory is right , thinking that matter cannot reach and substains light velocity, because in this case matter would have an infinitive mass , and it would be necessary to transfer to it an infinitive quantity of energy. At the same time the physics substain that at elemental material level the time does not exist and that in normal conditions it is not possible to travel in the time. As opposite to what mentioned before, the writer, after 20 years of research out of the pubblic ufficial circuit of the physical research, can prove that things are different. Some examples of his theories follows: -The comception of time and space given by Einstein Relativity is completly inconsistent applied to the case of light velocity of the matter , out of light along with the physical and heavy consistance of the material invisible particles that translate the time , (towards the future or the past). In many cases the theories substained by the physics are uncomplete or inadeguated to describe the reality, but because of their lack to give an explanation to the real phaenomenouses, they go on thinking their concept as the only truth. -Some information about: To travel in the time , to travel at light velocity , to know the explanation of the forces unification, to know the natural formation of the sub-elemental particles of the electricity of the magnetism and of the gravity. The writers brings explanations and cases which confutates the Einsteins relativity theory , substaing that the matter can travel at light velocity The contrary is possible and it is the right explanation of the world. End of December 1996 it will be ready a book , entitled "THE QUADRIDIMENTIONAL UNIVERSE", where in about 420 pages with colour photos and pictures , the writer explains these theories and many other concepts not already reached by the officials science. Shipment: per Airmail. Possible markets :All countries except for Italy , switzerland , Japan, Cina , URSS Countries DEPOSITED AND PROTECTED CONTENTS PLEASE REPLY FOR MORE INFOS : scienza@pianeta.it --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: DFJ00017 Date: 11/07/96 From: DUST MITE Time: 1:03:am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: http://www.winnersonly.com From: "Dust Mite" Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Organization: Prodigy Internet Original Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 07:39:32 GMT --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: DFJ00018 Date: 11/07/96 From: FYI@PSINET.COM Time: 4:15:am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: This SLIT is open. FREE SAMPLES: http:4:15:05011/07/96 From: fyi@psinet.com Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Organization: PSI Public Usenet Link Original Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 06:39:18 GMT HEY GUYS! There's hot SLIT, open and waiting for you - explicit photos, hot audio tracks, sizzling sex stories and more. Try it FREE!! Adults 18 and over, VISIT: http://www.nwnt.com/slit --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: DFJ00019 Date: 11/07/96 From: TRUTH@FREEWAY.NET Time: 7:22:am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: We`re all telepaths From: truth@freeway.net Newsgroups: lt.paranet.paranormal,alt.paranet.psi,alt.paranet.science,alt.par anet.skeptic,alt.paranormal,alt.paranormal.channeling Organization: "Freeway (TM) - America's Public Information Network" Original Date: Thu, 07 Nov 96 16:57:17 GMT Our family experience has been that "telephy" or other such occurances are usually hit and miss, do happen, but not dependably so. 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FREE SAMPLES: http://www.nwnt.com/slit --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: DFJ00021 Date: 11/07/96 From: SAM KAYANI Time: 7:22:am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: We`re all telepaths From: "Sam Kayani" Newsgroups: lt.paranet.paranormal,alt.paranet.psi,alt.paranet.science,alt.par anet.skeptic,alt.paranormal,alt.paranormal.channeling Organization: Oxford University Original Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 15:54:02 +0000 > > > > Although your story seems very hard to believe, and many skeptics would > > > > simply laugh at it, I would just like to add that this is relatively an > > > > extremely common phenomenon. Many mothers are reported to see and feel the > > > > circumstances of their son's death in battle at the precise moment, even > > > > though their sons may be miles away at the time. This fits in with he > > > > 'desparate' theory with you mention. > > > > > > > > Sam. > > > > > > > > > What's so hard to beleive? I do it...we all can do it..just some of us > > > can't beleive we can do it. > > > > Not really for a normal fair minded person. It would, however, seem hard > > to believe for a it's-not-in-the-textbook-therefore-it's-not-science > > "skeptics". > > Regarding skeptics and science, how the hell do they think the textbooks > were written in the first place?? Every scientific field started with a > lot of "crazy" ideas and uncertainties. Chemistry has roots in alchemy. > Psychology has roots in religion, literature, and myth. Is the earth > flat? Does gravity need a rope to pull things? Just because something > can't be explained NOW doesn't mean it doesn't exist and won't be > explained in the future. > > Wolfgang McKeown B-) An enlightened poster. Well put, Wolfgang. This seems to be the basic piece of knowledge which many 'skeptics' overlook. They have truly impeded the progress of science. On the other hand thanks to true skepticism we know are able to distinguish science from mythology. Sam. --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: DFJ00022 Date: 11/07/96 From: JXYNA@GNN.COM Time: 8:57:am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Psychic readings From: Jxyna@gnn.com Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Organization: GNN Original Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 13:34:33 Get readings from England's foremost channel. For more info, visit: http://members.gnn.com/Jxyna/Facets There are more idiots in the world than you think. Gregor Former --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: DFJ00023 Date: 11/07/96 From: OTTO J. MAKELA Time: 8:57:am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: cmsg cancel <32580ebf.5889642@news.prodi8:57:07011/07/96 Reply-to: "Otto J. Makela" From: "Dust Mite" Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Original Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 07:39:32 GMT Spam-cancel: "http://www.winnersonly.com" --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: DFJ00024 Date: 11/08/96 From: GRATUITOUS PSEUDONYM Time: 1:26:am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: We`re all telepaths From: "Gratuitous Pseudonym" Newsgroups: lt.paranet.paranormal,alt.paranet.psi,alt.paranet.science,alt.par anet.skeptic,alt.paranormal,alt.paranormal.channeling Organization: E-Z.Net,Inc. Original Date: Thu, 07 Nov 96 23:06:40 GMT In article , Wolfgang McKeown wrote: >> Not really for a normal fair minded person. It would, however, seem hard >> to believe for a it's-not-in-the-textbook-therefore-it's-not-science >> "skeptics". I have never heard any skeptic define science as what is written in textbooks. This is a gross misrepresentation of skepticism. >Anyone who's had experience with telepathy would believe this story. It >just takes a significant amount of faith in your abilities before you can >have the experience. It's basically a tautology, then. You have to believe in it in order to have the experience which leads you to believe in it. >Regarding skeptics and science, how the hell do they think the textbooks >were written in the first place?? Since no one makes the claim that science is what is written in textbooks, you are erecting a straw-man. >Every scientific field started with a >lot of "crazy" ideas and uncertainties. Chemistry has roots in alchemy. >Psychology has roots in religion, literature, and myth. But the science of chemistry isn't alchemy nor is the science of psychology mere literature and myth. The science part comes from the systematic examination of phenomena through careful observation and replication, not what was written in books. It was the skeptics who doubted the pat explanations of religions and sought out more accurate evidence. If we had defined science as a faith in books, chemistry would still be alchemy and our knowledge would never have advanced. When it comes to telepathy, replication is the biggest problem. Perhaps someday we will see some sort of science arise from some of the claims of paranormal believers, but simply making those claims does not mean they are accurate perceptions or valid conclusions. >Just because something can't be explained NOW doesn't mean it doesn't exist >and won't be explained in the future. I agree. On the other hand, simply because you believe in telepathy now does not mean it will be proved to exist in the future. You should feel free to experiment for yourself and see if you can come up with a way to reliably demonstrate the existence of some previously unknown means of communication which acts like telepathy is supposed to act. 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